***24n12n1 OD 2010***
Moderators: jsence2, Wasted Memory
***24n12n1 OD 2010***
First off, welcome everyone to the 2010 version of the 24hr dynasty league, '24n12n1'(24hours, 12 conferences w/ 1 coach). All conferences are represented by 1 and only 1 coach.
I will advance each morning at 6:30 am cst time. Sims are likely to happen. Make sure to have the computer assistance on for when you are out of pocket. Also, look at your schedule and take notice of when you have user games coming up. Use the boards/pm/aim to set something up when possible.
**If you know for sure that you can't play a game during a user week, let me know in advance so I can have the other coach play the game against the CPU.
------------Dynasty Setup------------
Non-BCS Conferences:
For your 1st season, a coach will select from all teams.
By playing outside of the BCS you will be given a 3-6 year head start over the BCS user teams.
Use the head start to build your program into a nationally recognized school.
BCS Conferences (& Independents):
For your 1st season, a coach will select from a C+* rated team and below.
*(SEC/ACC only have 1 team that fits this criteria. Therefore a select number of B- teams have been added.)
After 3 seasons at a "C+" rated school, the coach will be able to accept job offers from any B team and below.
After 3 seasons at a "B" rated school, the coach will be able to accept job offers from any A+ team and below.
1st season BCS teams by conference (using Cnasty's team ratings):
ACC
Boston College B- B- B-
Duke C- C C-
BIG10
Iowa C+ B- C
Minnesota C+ B- C
Michigan St. C+ B- C+
BIG12
Missouri C+ B- C+
Iowa St. C- C C-
BIG-E
Louisville C+ B- C
Connecticut C C+ C-
Syracuse D+ C- C-
INDY
Navy C- C- C-
Army D C- D
PAC10
Stanford C B- C-
Washington St. C- C+ C-
SEC
Mississippi St. B- C+ B-
Vanderbilt B- B- B
Kentucky C+ C+ C+
If you are presented with an opportunity to change conferences (either by a user leaving or an agreement with another user):
You will transfer to an equal school at the stage of your current coaching career in your new conference
From BCS -> Non-BCS
Any school available
From BCS or non-BCS -> BCS
If within the first 3 years, you must select C+ and below.
From years 3-6, you must select from B and below.
From years 6+, you must select from A+ and below.
Note:Once transferred you must coach for a minimum of 3 seasons at your new school before you new job offers can be accepted.
Example:
User 'EA' has been at Bowling Green(non-BCS) for 5 seasons.
The Big10 Conference is open and 'EA' is willing to transfer.
EA selects B rated Purdue.
EA will now coach Purdue for a minimum of 3 seasons before new job offers can be accepted.
New coaching assignments will be made at the start of the next season.
Conference openings will 1st be made available to current dynasty members with at least 1 full season complete.
If there is a lack of interest with current dynasty members, the conference opening will be given to a new user.
------------Dynasty Setup------------
Game rules vs USER:
1. NDL rules apply
Game Rules vs CPU:
1. 70 points is the max that can be scored by your team
1a. The only way you can go over 70 points is if the other team is within 3 scores.
1b. If you go over 70 points the max score differential shall be a max of 21 points.
2. When I advance I will look at each teams report. If you score more than 70(excluding 1a/1b) I will throw your game score out. I will then sim the game. You are now subject to computer simulated injuries and a potential loss.
3. If I have to throw your game out twice, you will be removed from the league.
4. This is a hard and fast rule. Don't take any chances. If you play your game and the computer scores off an INT or FG and breaks the 70 point cap, I will still throw your game out.
5. Consider this your warning. You have two more chances before you are removed.
I will advance each morning at 6:30 am cst time. Sims are likely to happen. Make sure to have the computer assistance on for when you are out of pocket. Also, look at your schedule and take notice of when you have user games coming up. Use the boards/pm/aim to set something up when possible.
**If you know for sure that you can't play a game during a user week, let me know in advance so I can have the other coach play the game against the CPU.
------------Dynasty Setup------------
Non-BCS Conferences:
For your 1st season, a coach will select from all teams.
By playing outside of the BCS you will be given a 3-6 year head start over the BCS user teams.
Use the head start to build your program into a nationally recognized school.
BCS Conferences (& Independents):
For your 1st season, a coach will select from a C+* rated team and below.
*(SEC/ACC only have 1 team that fits this criteria. Therefore a select number of B- teams have been added.)
After 3 seasons at a "C+" rated school, the coach will be able to accept job offers from any B team and below.
After 3 seasons at a "B" rated school, the coach will be able to accept job offers from any A+ team and below.
1st season BCS teams by conference (using Cnasty's team ratings):
ACC
Boston College B- B- B-
Duke C- C C-
BIG10
Iowa C+ B- C
Minnesota C+ B- C
Michigan St. C+ B- C+
BIG12
Missouri C+ B- C+
Iowa St. C- C C-
BIG-E
Louisville C+ B- C
Connecticut C C+ C-
Syracuse D+ C- C-
INDY
Navy C- C- C-
Army D C- D
PAC10
Stanford C B- C-
Washington St. C- C+ C-
SEC
Mississippi St. B- C+ B-
Vanderbilt B- B- B
Kentucky C+ C+ C+
If you are presented with an opportunity to change conferences (either by a user leaving or an agreement with another user):
You will transfer to an equal school at the stage of your current coaching career in your new conference
From BCS -> Non-BCS
Any school available
From BCS or non-BCS -> BCS
If within the first 3 years, you must select C+ and below.
From years 3-6, you must select from B and below.
From years 6+, you must select from A+ and below.
Note:Once transferred you must coach for a minimum of 3 seasons at your new school before you new job offers can be accepted.
Example:
User 'EA' has been at Bowling Green(non-BCS) for 5 seasons.
The Big10 Conference is open and 'EA' is willing to transfer.
EA selects B rated Purdue.
EA will now coach Purdue for a minimum of 3 seasons before new job offers can be accepted.
New coaching assignments will be made at the start of the next season.
Conference openings will 1st be made available to current dynasty members with at least 1 full season complete.
If there is a lack of interest with current dynasty members, the conference opening will be given to a new user.
------------Dynasty Setup------------
Game rules vs USER:
1. NDL rules apply
Game Rules vs CPU:
1. 70 points is the max that can be scored by your team
1a. The only way you can go over 70 points is if the other team is within 3 scores.
1b. If you go over 70 points the max score differential shall be a max of 21 points.
2. When I advance I will look at each teams report. If you score more than 70(excluding 1a/1b) I will throw your game score out. I will then sim the game. You are now subject to computer simulated injuries and a potential loss.
3. If I have to throw your game out twice, you will be removed from the league.
4. This is a hard and fast rule. Don't take any chances. If you play your game and the computer scores off an INT or FG and breaks the 70 point cap, I will still throw your game out.
5. Consider this your warning. You have two more chances before you are removed.
Last edited by brocam on Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Stand Up Chuck And Let Em See You!
Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
2010 Season Team Selections & Conference History:
ACC
Cdub21 (MIAMI HURRICANES)
2009 Season 1-7
Buckeye (NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS)
2009 Season 8-11
Outlaw (BOSTON COLLEGE EAGLES)
2010 Season 1
daw1git (BOSTON COLLEGE EAGLES)
2010 Season 2
BIG10
Baker (IOWA HAWKEYES)
2009 Season 1-9
Doc1424 (MINNESOTA GOLDEN GOPHERS)
2009 Season 10-11
Beefy (MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS)
2010 Season 1-2
BIG12
Brocam (TEXAS A&M AGGIES)
2009 Season 1-11
Brocam (IOWA STATE CYCLONES)
2010 Season 1-2
BIGEAST
Beefy (WEST VIRGINIA MOUNTAINEERS)
2009 Season 1-5
Weasel (CINCINNATI BEARCATS)
2009 Season 6-7
Mcx79 (SOUTH FLORIDA BULLS)
2009 Season 8-11
Mcx79 (SYRACUSE ORANGE)
2010 Season 1
Doc1424 (LOUISVILLE CARDINALS)
2010 Season 2
C-USA
Downing (TULSA GOLDEN HURRICANE)
2009 Season 1-2
Bigmike (RICE OWLS)
2009 Season 3-5
Mcx79 (TULSA GOLDEN HURRICANE)
2009 Season 6-7
Runthepound (SOUTHERN MISS GOLDEN EAGLES)
2009 Season 8-11
NDLBillroy (MARSHALL THUNDERING HERD)
2010 Season 1-2
INDEPENDENTS
Nick (NAVY MIDSHIPMEN)
2009 Season 1-4
Bsktbljk (NOTRE DAME IRISH)
2009 Season 5-6
Beefy (NAVY MIDSHIPMEN)
2009 Season 7-11
Seeitsaveit (NAVY MIDSHIPMEN)
2010 Season 1-2
MAC
Weasel (BOWLING GREEN FALCONS)
2009 Season 1-5
Steelcitychaos (BOWLING GREEN FALCONS)
2009 Season 6
Doc1424 (TEMPLE OWLS)
2009 Season 7-9
UCWeiser (TOLEDO ROCKETS)
2009 Season 10-11
UCWeiser (TOLEDO ROCKETS)
2010 Season 1-2
MWC
Mtwasik (TCU HORNED FROGS)
2009 Season 1-11
Mtwasik (UNLV REBELS)
2010 Season 1-2
PAC10
Zook (OREGON DUCKS)
2009 Season 1
Kdog (CALIFORNIA BEARS)
2009 Season 1
Outaw (USC TROJANS)
2009 Season 2-6
Outlaw (OREGON STATE BEAVERS)
2009 Season 7-11
Doc1424 (STANFORD CARDINAL)
2010 Season 1
Outlaw (STANFORD CARDINAL)
2010 Season 2
SEC
mcx (FLORIDA GATORS)
2009 Season 1-2
Downing (GEORGIA BULLDOGS)
2009 Season 3-5
Bigmike (FLORIDA GATORS)
2009 Season 6-11
Bigmike (KENTUCKY WILDCATS)
2010 Season 1
Mcx79 (KENTUCKY WILDCATS)
2010 Season 2
SBC
Autiger (FLORIDA ATLANTIC OWLS
2009 Season 1-2
NickJr (TROY TROJANS)
2009 Season 2-3
Seeitsaveit (TROY TROJANS)
2009 Season 3-11
Cdub21 (FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL GOLDEN PANTHERS)
2010 Season 1
ANK (NORTH TEXAS MEAN GREEN)
2010 Season 2
WAC
outlaw (BOISE STATE BRONCOS)
2009 Season 1
Kdog (NEW MEXICO STATE AGGIES)
2009 Season 2-7
Oldschoola (FRESNO STATE BULLDOGS)
2009 Season 8-11
Oldschoola (FRESNO STATE BULLDOGS)
2010 Season 1-2
ACC
Cdub21 (MIAMI HURRICANES)
2009 Season 1-7
Buckeye (NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS)
2009 Season 8-11
Outlaw (BOSTON COLLEGE EAGLES)
2010 Season 1
daw1git (BOSTON COLLEGE EAGLES)
2010 Season 2
BIG10
Baker (IOWA HAWKEYES)
2009 Season 1-9
Doc1424 (MINNESOTA GOLDEN GOPHERS)
2009 Season 10-11
Beefy (MICHIGAN STATE SPARTANS)
2010 Season 1-2
BIG12
Brocam (TEXAS A&M AGGIES)
2009 Season 1-11
Brocam (IOWA STATE CYCLONES)
2010 Season 1-2
BIGEAST
Beefy (WEST VIRGINIA MOUNTAINEERS)
2009 Season 1-5
Weasel (CINCINNATI BEARCATS)
2009 Season 6-7
Mcx79 (SOUTH FLORIDA BULLS)
2009 Season 8-11
Mcx79 (SYRACUSE ORANGE)
2010 Season 1
Doc1424 (LOUISVILLE CARDINALS)
2010 Season 2
C-USA
Downing (TULSA GOLDEN HURRICANE)
2009 Season 1-2
Bigmike (RICE OWLS)
2009 Season 3-5
Mcx79 (TULSA GOLDEN HURRICANE)
2009 Season 6-7
Runthepound (SOUTHERN MISS GOLDEN EAGLES)
2009 Season 8-11
NDLBillroy (MARSHALL THUNDERING HERD)
2010 Season 1-2
INDEPENDENTS
Nick (NAVY MIDSHIPMEN)
2009 Season 1-4
Bsktbljk (NOTRE DAME IRISH)
2009 Season 5-6
Beefy (NAVY MIDSHIPMEN)
2009 Season 7-11
Seeitsaveit (NAVY MIDSHIPMEN)
2010 Season 1-2
MAC
Weasel (BOWLING GREEN FALCONS)
2009 Season 1-5
Steelcitychaos (BOWLING GREEN FALCONS)
2009 Season 6
Doc1424 (TEMPLE OWLS)
2009 Season 7-9
UCWeiser (TOLEDO ROCKETS)
2009 Season 10-11
UCWeiser (TOLEDO ROCKETS)
2010 Season 1-2
MWC
Mtwasik (TCU HORNED FROGS)
2009 Season 1-11
Mtwasik (UNLV REBELS)
2010 Season 1-2
PAC10
Zook (OREGON DUCKS)
2009 Season 1
Kdog (CALIFORNIA BEARS)
2009 Season 1
Outaw (USC TROJANS)
2009 Season 2-6
Outlaw (OREGON STATE BEAVERS)
2009 Season 7-11
Doc1424 (STANFORD CARDINAL)
2010 Season 1
Outlaw (STANFORD CARDINAL)
2010 Season 2
SEC
mcx (FLORIDA GATORS)
2009 Season 1-2
Downing (GEORGIA BULLDOGS)
2009 Season 3-5
Bigmike (FLORIDA GATORS)
2009 Season 6-11
Bigmike (KENTUCKY WILDCATS)
2010 Season 1
Mcx79 (KENTUCKY WILDCATS)
2010 Season 2
SBC
Autiger (FLORIDA ATLANTIC OWLS
2009 Season 1-2
NickJr (TROY TROJANS)
2009 Season 2-3
Seeitsaveit (TROY TROJANS)
2009 Season 3-11
Cdub21 (FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL GOLDEN PANTHERS)
2010 Season 1
ANK (NORTH TEXAS MEAN GREEN)
2010 Season 2
WAC
outlaw (BOISE STATE BRONCOS)
2009 Season 1
Kdog (NEW MEXICO STATE AGGIES)
2009 Season 2-7
Oldschoola (FRESNO STATE BULLDOGS)
2009 Season 8-11
Oldschoola (FRESNO STATE BULLDOGS)
2010 Season 1-2
Last edited by brocam on Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:35 pm, edited 14 times in total.

Stand Up Chuck And Let Em See You!
Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
TEAM RATINGS:
ACC
FSU A- B+ A-
Georgia Tech B+ B A-
North Carolina B+ B+ A-
Miami B+ B+ A-
Va Tech B+ B+ A-
Clemson B+ B+ B+
Maryland B+ B+ B+
--
NC State B B B+
Wake Forest B B B
Virginia B B- B
--
Boston College B- B- B-
Duke C- C C-
Big 12
Oklahoma A+ A+ A
Texas A+ A+ A
Oklahoma St. A- A B+
Nebraska B+ B+ A-
--
Texas A&M B B B+
Kansas St. B B- B+
Texas Tech B- B- B-
Kansas B- B C
Baylor B- B- C-
Colorado B- B- B-
--
Missouri C+ B- C+
Iowa St. C- C C-
Big East
USF B+ B+ B+
West Virginia B+ B+ B+
Cincinnati B+B+ B+
--
Rutgers B B B+
Pitt B B B
--
Louisville C+ B- C
Connecticut C C+ C-
Syracuse D+ C- C-
Big Ten
Penn St. A- A- A-
Ohio St. A- B+ A
Michigan B+ B A-
Wisconsin B+ B B+
--
Illinois B B+ B-
Northwestern B B- B+
Purdue B B- B
Indiana B- C+ B
--
Iowa C+ B- C
Minnesota C+ B- C
Michigan St. C+ B- C+
Conference USA
Houston B B B-
UCF B- B- B-
Southern Miss B- B C
ECU C+ C+ C+
Tulsa C C+ C
Marshall C B- C
Memphis C B- D+
Rice C- C D+
UTEP C- C+ D+
UAB C- C D+
SMU D+ C- C-
Tulane D+ C D+
Independents
Notre Dame B+ A- B+
--
Navy C- C- C-
Army D C- D
MAC
Bowling Green C- C+ C-
Temple C C C
Central Mich. C B- D+
Kent St. C C+ C-
Buffalo C- C+ D+
Miami U C- C C-
Ohio C- C C-
Akron C- C C-
Toledo C- C D+
Western Michigan C- C+ D+
Ball St. C- C+ D
Northern Illinois D+ C- D+
E Mich D C- D
Mountain West
TCU B B B-
Utah B B B-
BYU B- B+ C+
SDSU C C+ C
CSU C- C C-
Air Force C- C D+
UNLV C- C D+
New Mexico D+ C D+
Wyoming D C- D
Pac-10
USC A+ A A+
Cal A- A- A-
Oregon A- B+ A
Oregon St. B+ B+ B+
--
Arizona B B B
ASU B B B+
Washington B B B
UCLA B- B- B-
--
Stanford C B- C-
Washington St. C- C+ C-
SEC
Florida A+ A+ A+
Georgia A- B+ A
Alabama A- B+ A
LSU A- A- A-
Ole Miss A- B+ A-
Tennessee B+ B+ A-
--
Auburn B B- B
Arkansas B- B B-
South Carolina B- B- B-
--
Mississippi St. B- C+ B-
Vanderbilt B- B- B
Kentucky C+ C+ C+
Sun Belt
Ark St. C- C+ C-
Troy C- C C
FIU C- C C-
UL Monroe C- C C-
FAU D+ C+ D
North Texas D+ C D+
Mid. Tenn D+ C+ D
Western Kentucky D C D
UL Lafayette D C- D
WAC
Boise St. B B B
Fresno St. C B- C
Hawaii C+ C+ C+
La Tech C B- C-
Nevada C B- D+
NMSU D+ C D+
SJSU D C D
Idaho D C D
Utah St. D D D
LEGEND:
TEAM NAME = 1st season selection
TEAM NAME = Minimum 3 years before available
TEAM NAME = Minimum 3 years at TEAM NAME before available
ACC
FSU A- B+ A-
Georgia Tech B+ B A-
North Carolina B+ B+ A-
Miami B+ B+ A-
Va Tech B+ B+ A-
Clemson B+ B+ B+
Maryland B+ B+ B+
--
NC State B B B+
Wake Forest B B B
Virginia B B- B
--
Boston College B- B- B-
Duke C- C C-
Big 12
Oklahoma A+ A+ A
Texas A+ A+ A
Oklahoma St. A- A B+
Nebraska B+ B+ A-
--
Texas A&M B B B+
Kansas St. B B- B+
Texas Tech B- B- B-
Kansas B- B C
Baylor B- B- C-
Colorado B- B- B-
--
Missouri C+ B- C+
Iowa St. C- C C-
Big East
USF B+ B+ B+
West Virginia B+ B+ B+
Cincinnati B+B+ B+
--
Rutgers B B B+
Pitt B B B
--
Louisville C+ B- C
Connecticut C C+ C-
Syracuse D+ C- C-
Big Ten
Penn St. A- A- A-
Ohio St. A- B+ A
Michigan B+ B A-
Wisconsin B+ B B+
--
Illinois B B+ B-
Northwestern B B- B+
Purdue B B- B
Indiana B- C+ B
--
Iowa C+ B- C
Minnesota C+ B- C
Michigan St. C+ B- C+
Conference USA
Houston B B B-
UCF B- B- B-
Southern Miss B- B C
ECU C+ C+ C+
Tulsa C C+ C
Marshall C B- C
Memphis C B- D+
Rice C- C D+
UTEP C- C+ D+
UAB C- C D+
SMU D+ C- C-
Tulane D+ C D+
Independents
Notre Dame B+ A- B+
--
Navy C- C- C-
Army D C- D
MAC
Bowling Green C- C+ C-
Temple C C C
Central Mich. C B- D+
Kent St. C C+ C-
Buffalo C- C+ D+
Miami U C- C C-
Ohio C- C C-
Akron C- C C-
Toledo C- C D+
Western Michigan C- C+ D+
Ball St. C- C+ D
Northern Illinois D+ C- D+
E Mich D C- D
Mountain West
TCU B B B-
Utah B B B-
BYU B- B+ C+
SDSU C C+ C
CSU C- C C-
Air Force C- C D+
UNLV C- C D+
New Mexico D+ C D+
Wyoming D C- D
Pac-10
USC A+ A A+
Cal A- A- A-
Oregon A- B+ A
Oregon St. B+ B+ B+
--
Arizona B B B
ASU B B B+
Washington B B B
UCLA B- B- B-
--
Stanford C B- C-
Washington St. C- C+ C-
SEC
Florida A+ A+ A+
Georgia A- B+ A
Alabama A- B+ A
LSU A- A- A-
Ole Miss A- B+ A-
Tennessee B+ B+ A-
--
Auburn B B- B
Arkansas B- B B-
South Carolina B- B- B-
--
Mississippi St. B- C+ B-
Vanderbilt B- B- B
Kentucky C+ C+ C+
Sun Belt
Ark St. C- C+ C-
Troy C- C C
FIU C- C C-
UL Monroe C- C C-
FAU D+ C+ D
North Texas D+ C D+
Mid. Tenn D+ C+ D
Western Kentucky D C D
UL Lafayette D C- D
WAC
Boise St. B B B
Fresno St. C B- C
Hawaii C+ C+ C+
La Tech C B- C-
Nevada C B- D+
NMSU D+ C D+
SJSU D C D
Idaho D C D
Utah St. D D D
LEGEND:
TEAM NAME = 1st season selection
TEAM NAME = Minimum 3 years before available
TEAM NAME = Minimum 3 years at TEAM NAME before available
Last edited by brocam on Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Stand Up Chuck And Let Em See You!
Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
ill hop back in the acc if i can
Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
Back to the SEC and Kentucky for me. I think I can do big things with 4 years of Morgan Newton. 

Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
cusa and tulsa if i can
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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
Can I get in brocam with Oregon, and the Pac 10 If you have someone drop?
Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
Give me Pac-10 & Stanford, as long as I can still be in... 

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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
shit wtf??? i wanted back in the wac outlaw. hey bandwagon usc is still open why dont you go back to them
Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
oldschoola wrote:shit wtf??? i wanted back in the wac outlaw. hey bandwagon usc is still open why dont you go back to them


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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
army please.
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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
ahh who caresoldschoola wrote:shit wtf??? i wanted back in the wac outlaw. hey bandwagon usc is still open why dont you go back to them


Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
cdub/bearass/dole/packsy:
we have 12 coaches right now..but if someone drops i will see if you want to join up. thanks for the interest.
ps. dole you can't start with oregon...c+ rated teams and below for BCS conferences.
we have 12 coaches right now..but if someone drops i will see if you want to join up. thanks for the interest.
ps. dole you can't start with oregon...c+ rated teams and below for BCS conferences.

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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
I'm gonna nix buckeye getting to use the indy's because I got him the game early...




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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
in all fairness tho oregon is a c- in real lifebrocam wrote:cdub/bearass/dole/packsy:
we have 12 coaches right now..but if someone drops i will see if you want to join up. thanks for the interest.
ps. dole you can't start with oregon...c+ rated teams and below for BCS conferences.
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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
this is a true statement. I will leave the Indy's to Seeit. I will take ECU.Seeitsaveit13 wrote:I'm gonna nix buckeye getting to use the indy's because I got him the game early...
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Re: ***24n12n1 OD 2010***
You really don't have to... but since we were gonna have to break the tie anyway...buckeye76 wrote:this is a true statement. I will leave the Indy's to Seeit. I will take ECU.Seeitsaveit13 wrote:I'm gonna nix buckeye getting to use the indy's because I got him the game early...




