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Institute a Draft Lottery

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Draft Lottery

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Bottom 10 teams go into the ping pong ball hopper.
Randomly generated order is provided for the next draft.

I know we’ve tossed the idea around so making a formal poll.
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What do you think about all non-playoff teams going in the hopper?
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i am all for this as long as it isn't a ton of extra work for Billy. I will vote after i hear from him
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TheGobOne wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:51 am What do you think about all non-playoff teams going in the hopper?
NBA style!!


I'd actually be for it, but not if every non-playoff team had the same odds. Something like the NBA odds is fine. None of it is really necessary, but I just think it a lottery would be fun, add some spice to things.
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I’ll let him chime in but it should be very simple.
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hmm,

I would need to see this done on a live video feed as I would not trust just a post that I cant see how the results happened.

Maybe give each team a number then put those numbers in a random.org generator type deal and show that live as it happens.

If that cant be done I am a NO. If the random generation of those lottery picks can be done live then I am a YES.
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TheGobOne wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:51 am What do you think about all non-playoff teams going in the hopper?
I agree with shel.
If we go full non-playoff teams that creates a bit more work as I feel it shouldn’t be just random generator in that scenario.

I like bottom 10 personally but just feel a lottery would be real fun and possibly combat some of the “tank” theories...if there are truly any in the first place.
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kdog36 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:56 am hmm,

I would need to see this done on a live video feed as I would not trust just a post that I cant see how the results happened.

Maybe give each team a number then put those numbers in a random.org generator type deal and show that live as it happens.

If that cant be done I am a NO. If the random generation of those lottery picks can be done live then I am a YES.
We will make billy TikTok the process. Done.
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Oh I guess I always envisioned it as NHL style where the worse team still has the greatest odds of getting #1. Is your idea the bottom 10 teams get the same chance at #1?
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I am all for it. Neurotics league does it and it’s pretty great. Would definitely need to be NBA style. All non-playoff teams is too much though, I don’t think 18 is the way to go. I kinda like the initial post of 10, I think anything above that is a bit much.
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TheGobOne wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:00 pm Oh I guess I always envisioned it as NHL style where the worse team still has the greatest odds of getting #1. Is your idea the bottom 10 teams get the same chance at #1?
Sounds like NHL and NBA style are basically the same
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We reward NOT being competitive so heavily I have a feeling this gets shot down
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I really think the NBA style offs work well too.

Bottom 4 teams have the same odds. And it flows on down to where the lowest odds are like 1-2%.
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Cnasty wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:58 am possibly combat some of the “tank” theories...if there are truly any in the first place.
You really don't think we reward it? Serious question too.

I can think of multiple things that make it easier to suck rather than sign the full teams of starters sitting in FA and at least attempt to be competitive.
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This year, the #10 and #11 worst teams were both 74-88. How will you handle that? H2H?

I do like the idea, but also think it should be weighted.
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Thing about tanking is over half of the real bad tank jobs you see are due to guys going over budget and having no money and they can’t sign anyone. That is not really tanking unless you still do it after getting out of the hole. Yes, we have blatant ones where guys could add some and don’t and some owners honestly just suck at this.
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KShorey wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:19 pm
Cnasty wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:58 am possibly combat some of the “tank” theories...if there are truly any in the first place.
You really don't think we reward it? Serious question too.

I can think of multiple things that make it easier to suck rather than sign the full teams of starters sitting in FA and at least attempt to be competitive.
I totally think we do but also opening up others opinions as well.
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Wasted Memory wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:20 pm This year, the #10 and #11 worst teams were both 74-88. How will you handle that? H2H?

I do like the idea, but also think it should be weighted.
I’ll let billy weigh in on how much time it would take weighted vs. not and also how to handle h2h.

I also want this to be as simple as possible for him as well but really like the fun idea of the lottery.
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I’ll do a little research tonight and post a plan of how it might work and see what guys think
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Just thinking aloud here...

- There are random generator website where you can weight the odds however you like. That part is super simple, probably 5 minutes tops.
- Then Billy would have to manually change the draft order
- And we just have to figure out how to divy up odds for ties within the top 10, then same for Wasted's example if the actual 10th spot ends in a tie
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