Who's #2?

[chuskerpride]

Double Digit Win Teams. Ranking (coaches poll/media poll) is based on the opponents rank during the scheduled week of play.

13-0 (9-0) - ACC Champions

Key Wins
@ #5/6 Wisconsin (10-3) dcane7
vs Arizona (8-4) phreakk
@ #22/23 North Carolina (8-4) OracleHCR
@ BYU (8-4) ICE
@ #19/20 Miami (8-4) OutRage
vs #7/8 Florida State (10-3) Chuskerpride
vs #7/8 Florida State (10-3) Chuskerpride - Conference Championship

12-1 (9-0) - SEC Champions

Key Wins
@ #19/18 Tennessee (8-4) Wasted Memory
vs #6/5 LSU (11-2) shel311
vs #20/17 Missouri (9-3) Black Crowes
vs #8/9 LSU (11-2) shel311 - Conference Championship
Key Loss(es)
@ #7/8 Florida State (10-3) Chuskerpride

12-1 (9-0) - Big 10 Champions

Key Wins
vs #10/10 Ohio State (8-4) buckeye76
@ #13/13 Michigan (8-4) plasma1896
@ #7/7 Wisconsin (10-3) dcane7
vs Nebraska (8-4) uf83198
vs #11/12 Wisconsin (10-3) dcane7 - Conference Championship
Key Loss(es)
vs #5/9 Notre Dame (9-3) wj5811

11-1 (9-0) - Big 12 Champions

Key Wins
vs Cincinnati (8-4) ReignOnU
vs #11/11 Texas (10-2) VeniVediV1ci
vs #10/10 TCU (9-3) BIGmike
vs #23/UR West Virginia (8-4) Talented3
@ #3/3 Oklahoma (9-3) Block M
Key Loss(es)
@Tennessee (8-4) Wasted Memory

11-2 (7-2)

Key Wins
@ #16/19 Ohio State (8-4) buckeye76
vs #2/2 Alabama (9-3) BFiVL
Key Loss(es)
@ #5/4 Florida (12-1) Daw1git
@ #4/5 Florida (12-1) Daw1git - Conference Championship

10-2 (6-1) - Big East Champions

Key Wins
vs Pittsburg (8-4) the_niddler
vs Cincinnati (8-4) ReignOnU
Key Loss(es)
@ NC State (6-6) NCSUholmey
@ South Florida (6-6)

10-2 (7-2)

Key Wins
vs #18/25 West Virginia (8-4) Talented3
vs #3/3 Oklahoma (9-3) Block M
Key Loss(es)
@ Oklahoma State (11-1) SuperJakeB
vs #16/13 TCU (9-3) BIGmike

10-3 (7-2)

Key Wins
@ #17/14 Miami (8-4) OutRage
vs #4/5 Florida (12-1) Daw1git
Key Loss(es)
vs Marshall (9-3) Tjw489
@ #1/1 Virginia Tech (13-0) VTrunNgun
@ #1/1 Virginia Tech (13-0) VTrunNgun - Conference Championship

10-3 (7-3)

Key Wins
vs #24/UR Stanford (9-3) iRoccafella
Key Loss(es)
vs Arizona (8-4) phreakk
@ USC (5-7) rworkman
vs #12/11 UCLA (10-3) UclaMac - Conference Championship


10-3 (8-2) - Pac 12 Champions

Key Wins
vs #21/18 Miami (8-4) OutRage
@ #6/4 Oregon (10-3) 6ftdeep - Conference Championship
Key Loss(es)
vs Buffalo (1-11) matt90210
vs #18/21 Arizona (8-4) phreakk
vs #24/UR Stanford (9-3) iRoccafella

10-3 (7-2)

Key Wins
@ Nebraska (8-4) uf83198
vs #14/15 Ohio State (8-4) buckeye76
@ Penn State (8-4) JohnnyP
Key Loss(es)
vs #2/2 Virginia Tech (13-0) VTrunNgun
vs #6/5 Michigan State (12-1) Weasel
@ #5/6 Michigan State (12-1) Weasel - Conference Championship


non-BCS

11-1 (7-0) - Sun Belt Champions

Key Wins
vs Miami (OH) (9-3) seeitsaveit13
@ FIU (8-4) MVikes84
@ North Texas (8-4) cnotes008
Key Loss(es)
vs Houston (9-3) RanDawg

11-1 (7-1) - Mountain West Champions

Key Wins
vs Colorado State (9-3) BigRy
Key Loss(es)
@ Boise State (9-3) outlaw

11-1 (6-0) - Western Athletic Champions

Key Wins
vs Northern Illinois (8-4) wastingU
@ UTSA (9-3) Twistanutz22
Key Loss(es)
vs Baylor Bears (7-5) mbyrd75

10-3 (8-1)

Key Wins
vs BYU (8-4) ICE
@ #21/25 Marshall (9-3) Tjw489
vs #16/16 UTEP (9-3) ChampDizzle
@ Houston (9-3) RanDawg
Key Loss(es)
@ Wake Forest (7-5) yougoogelizer
@ Clemson (6-6) LytezOut
@ Southern Mississippi (9-4) Sammy33

10-3 (8-1) - Mid-American Champions

Key Wins
@ Northern Illinois (8-4) wastingU
@ Toledo (8-4) Bucki2000
vs Miami (OH) (9-3) seeitsaveit13
@ Ohio (8-5) taruncheel - Conference Championship
Key Loss(es)
@ Mississippi State (7-5) JustGiver31
@ Louisiana Tech (2-10) PacksyD
vs Miami (OH) (9-3) seeitsaveit13

[Weasel]

Ok State lost to Tennessee, who Florida beat.
Florida lost to FSU, who VT beat
Wisconsins only losses have been to VT and MSU


Well, that was easy. Virginia Tech vs Michigan State is the obvious choice here.

[Quest4Gold]

All having nice seasons, but it comes down to three teams that will battle for that #2 spot.

1. Michigan State
2. Florida
3. Oklahoma State.

I am really going to have to go back and look at their schedule (SOS, Scoring Margin, etc)

Then, I will look to see which guy will send me the most money to vote for them. (I have to say the doc has the deepest pockets )

[Block M]

All having nice seasons, but it comes down to three teams that will battle for that #2 spot.

1. Michigan State
2. Florida
3. Oklahoma State.

I am really going to have to go back and look at their schedule (SOS, Scoring Margin, etc)

Then, I will look to see which guy will send me the most money to vote for them. (I have to say the doc has the deepest pockets )

Que to the violins as the doctor talks about his school debts...

[shel311]

Leaning towards Florida but haven't done any research yet.

[Quest4Gold]

Que to the violins as the doctor talks about his school debts...

[Weasel]

Que to the violins as the doctor talks about his school debts...

I'm unemployed!

[Weasel]

Looking at that Florida and Michigan state are very similar. Oklahoma state pretty damn good too

[SuperJakeB]

My loss was in Week 1! I thought losing early was the only time you could lose and recover. I guess that only applies to non SEC teams

[fsupenguin]

My loss was in Week 1! I thought losing early was the only time you could lose and recover. I guess that only applies to non SEC teams

If I don't vote Tulsa #2, not saying I won't, I do find you case compelling.

[Wasted Memory]

My loss was in Week 1! I thought losing early was the only time you could lose and recover. I guess that only applies to non SEC teams

There's your problem. If you'd lost in Week 1 you'd be alright. Unfortunately it was Week 2, against an unranked SEC team...you're screwed

[6ftdeep]

My vote goes to Florida for #2

MSU #3
OKST #4


sorry OKST but you don't play a conf champ game, and I have always given more stock to teams that play in conf champ games, because that is one more game they have to play and can slip up in, and it is usually always against a quality team. So when all things equal going in to COnf Champ week, they get nod when they win.

As for the comparison between Florida and MSU, both have qualities win and have won games impressively. I feel Florida has dominated their oppts a little more, but I tend to avoid margin of victory cause some guys let up earlier then others. And both teams have losses against very tough schools and coaches, an FSU team that has only 3 losses 2 to same coach and ND who also only has 3 losses has looked impressive at times. But Fla loss was a little closer then MSU. But the deciding factor came down to common oppts of the two teams.

Both teams played FAU and Wake Forest

Florida played FAU and won 31-0 and beat Wake Forest 31-14

whereas

MSU played FAU and won 42-17 and loss to Wake Forest 16- 20

and with all things being pretty even the common oppts and Florida fairing better against their common opts got Florida the nod over MSU

So for me

#1 VT
#2 FLA
#3 MSU
#4 OKST

[UclaMac]

I am leaning towards Florida also. I think Ok state and Mich state have a chance, but I think its really between Florida and Mich State because they played in the conf championship games, but I think Florida and VT would be a hot game to watch!

[Nole4real]

Scoring Margin

everyone of course is free to vote how they want but imo ya gotta be careful with this. I'll never punish a guy who wins a game by more than a td 7+ and turns off the jets vs someone who's blowing people out and dancing around 35 as much as possible.

matter of fact, all things being equal, i'll give a nod to the guy who i see beat one or several way lower rated or lower record in standings by just 2-3 tds vs the guy who who's winning by 28+ every game

just my opinion tho

[VeniVediV1ci]

if i didn't choke against Oklahoma State this would be a lot easier...

I think Florida is the choice, just too impressive to beat Shel twice in a season

[shel311]

if i didn't choke against Oklahoma State this would be a lot easier...

I think Florida is the choice, just too impressive to beat Shel twice in a season

I literally had no shot against him either time. Not even close to his level.

[buckeye76]

Scoring Margin

everyone of course is free to vote how they want but imo ya gotta be careful with this. I'll never punish a guy who wins a game by more than a td 7+ and turns off the jets vs someone who's blowing people out and dancing around 35 as much as possible.

matter of fact, all things being equal, i'll give a nod to the guy who i see beat one or several way lower rated or lower record in standings by just 2-3 tds vs the guy who who's winning by 28+ every game

just my opinion tho

+1

[buckeye76]

if i didn't choke against Oklahoma State this would be a lot easier...

I think Florida is the choice, just too impressive to beat Shel twice in a season

I literally had no shot against him either time. Not even close to his level.

I actually agree with this. I dont know about all the shel's washed up stuff, I dont buy it. As you were user picking my passes in our game. Dawgit had your number this season, it may be a different story next.

As for the vote, decisions decisions.

[Weasel]

When did I play wake this season?

[Whittness10]

This is a very tough decision, and the only way for me to decide is how they played me. I was able to stay in the game against MSU till halftime, where I was done in the first quarter against Florida. I thought defensively Florida was WAY better than MSU (no offense to MSU, your defense was solid too), I couldn't get the ball past the 50. So my vote goes to Florida strictly off of my personal experience and my opinion of which is the better team.