Motion Rule

trendon · Post by **trendon** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:10 pm

MOTION -- You MAY motion all offensive players: TE, WR, HB, and FB. HOWEVER, ONCE across and ONCE back is sufficient to determine the coverage and to put the motioned player in the position you want. DO NOT ABUSE MOTION. ANY PLAYER in motion MUST CLEAR THE TACKLES AND BE *SET* BEFORE THE SNAP.

Does that rule still apply since any receivers that are not outside the tackles/TE when the ball is snapped become blockers, not receivers?

OracleHCR · Post by **OracleHCR** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:23 pm

trendon wrote:
MOTION -- You MAY motion all offensive players: TE, WR, HB, and FB. HOWEVER, ONCE across and ONCE back is sufficient to determine the coverage and to put the motioned player in the position you want. DO NOT ABUSE MOTION. ANY PLAYER in motion MUST CLEAR THE TACKLES AND BE *SET* BEFORE THE SNAP.
Does that rule still apply since any receivers that are not outside the tackles/TE when the ball is snapped become blockers, not receivers?

Do they? Didn't notice that.

Uuaww · Post by **Uuaww** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:26 pm

OracleHCR wrote:
trendon wrote:
MOTION -- You MAY motion all offensive players: TE, WR, HB, and FB. HOWEVER, ONCE across and ONCE back is sufficient to determine the coverage and to put the motioned player in the position you want. DO NOT ABUSE MOTION. ANY PLAYER in motion MUST CLEAR THE TACKLES AND BE *SET* BEFORE THE SNAP.
Does that rule still apply since any receivers that are not outside the tackles/TE when the ball is snapped become blockers, not receivers?
Do they? Didn't notice that.

yeah i don't think i have actually seen anyone use this.

brett11253 · Post by **brett11253** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:27 pm

I've done it once. I don't normally motion though

nick · Post by **nick** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:31 pm

When I motion, I run the complete opposite way. I am just trying toget myself as much space as possible. FUck useless blockers

LetsGoPeay · Post by **LetsGoPeay** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:33 pm

nick wrote:When I motion, I run the complete opposite way. I am just trying toget myself as much space as possible. FUck useless blockers

Duly noted. Unless you're attempting to use the old "I know he knows that I know that he knows" trick on me. But since it's you... duly noted.

nick · Post by **nick** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:35 pm

LetsGoPeay wrote:
nick wrote:When I motion, I run the complete opposite way. I am just trying toget myself as much space as possible. FUck useless blockers
Duly noted. Unless you're attempting to use the old "I know he knows that I know that he knows" trick on me. But since it's you... duly noted.

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dakshdar · Post by **dakshdar** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:57 pm

There are also plays that auto-motion and auto-snap before a player clears the offensive line.

There really seems to be very little that is "fishy" in the game anymore. At least I haven't heard of "nano-blitzs" any more, or weird stacking of the linebackers, or strange running plays.

cougnix · Post by **cougnix** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:01 pm

With as much bump and run coverage that guys call, I think this rule should be revisited. I have played in leagues that have never banned motioning and snapping while still in motion and it isn't the same as it used to be. If they are behind the line, they block, they don't squirt out like they used to and nobody covers them. Plus, sometimes just having the auto-motion plays they don't go where you want them to. Just my opinion.

nick · Post by **nick** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:05 pm

i MOTION this rule be thrown out.

nick · Post by **nick** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 5:06 pm

nick wrote:i MOTION this rule be thrown out.

but then I motion back and see that the NDL is running a zone defense for this type of position, so I stay with my original deep post, incomplete

autiger730 · Post by **autiger730** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 6:59 pm

I think it is more for running plays. if you motion a WR to the hole you are going to the hole is gigantic as it adds a(nother) lead blocker.

beercop · Post by **beercop** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:54 am

I had a guy this season motion his wr and snapped the ball while said wide out was still in motion outside the tackle box. He throws the ball to the wide out and runs untouched for a touchdown. Never seen that play in this game. No way my defense had a chance to make a play.

LetsGoPeay · Post by **LetsGoPeay** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:14 am

beercop wrote:I had a guy this season motion his wr and snapped the ball while said wide out was still in motion outside the tackle box. He throws the ball to the wide out and runs untouched for a touchdown. Never seen that play in this game. No way my defense had a chance to make a play.

That is verified cheese and it's been seen and documented in East room games. You should have hammered him on his reports for that.

Post by **BFiVL** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:33 am

LetsGoPeay wrote:
beercop wrote:I had a guy this season motion his wr and snapped the ball while said wide out was still in motion outside the tackle box. He throws the ball to the wide out and runs untouched for a touchdown. Never seen that play in this game. No way my defense had a chance to make a play.
That is verified cheese and it's been seen and documented in East room games. You should have hammered him on his reports for that.

+2

My favorite is the hb motion and hiking before he is set and throwing to him immediately in the flat. Good for at least 11 a pop

VeniVediV1ci · Post by **VeniVediV1ci** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:05 am

beercop wrote:I had a guy this season motion his wr and snapped the ball while said wide out was still in motion outside the tackle box. He throws the ball to the wide out and runs untouched for a touchdown. Never seen that play in this game. No way my defense had a chance to make a play.

i don't remember motion, but there has to be a glitch with a WR screen pass where as soon as the WR catches it he's already in a full run while the defenders are still trying to figure out what's happening.

It was run against me at least once in each of the seasons and I don't fault the coach for it, but it's some sort of bubble screen where the receiver just runs like a gazelle when he catches it by the defenders for a TD

ChampDizzle · Post by **ChampDizzle** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:19 am

wr screens are real risky, if it gets picked its 6 going the other way.

cougnix · Post by **cougnix** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:50 am

With this being discussed a little more what are your thoughts on this?

Opponent highlights a receiver, receiver goes in motion doesn't get set and the ball is snapped. After discussing, the play was an auto-motion play BUT THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. Your thoughts?

ChampDizzle · Post by **ChampDizzle** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:03 pm

cougnix wrote:With this being discussed a little more what are your thoughts on this?

Opponent highlights a receiver, receiver goes in motion doesn't get set and the ball is snapped. After discussing, the play was an auto-motion play BUT THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. Your thoughts?

as long as he is a decoy

cougnix · Post by **cougnix** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:04 pm

ChampDizzle wrote:
cougnix wrote:With this being discussed a little more what are your thoughts on this?

Opponent highlights a receiver, receiver goes in motion doesn't get set and the ball is snapped. After discussing, the play was an auto-motion play BUT THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. Your thoughts?
as long as he is a decoy

sometimes gets the ball, sometimes playaction, sometimes not. Who is to say he is a decoy?

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