ok jason. whatever you say man. this is what guy say cause they want to justify their cheesiness. People who are TRULY good at the game dont have to hide behind EA gimmicksjsence2 wrote:ajalves wrote:trendon wrote:I guarantee I know EXACTLY how Doctor, Razorback, and swell play. I can see it now playing out in my head.
they are 100% correct. There is no downside to the feature (play the pass, and quite honestly play the run as well most times).
Not true....run a draw play against Play the Pass, and I bet you go for 15-20 yds if you know how to run the ball behind your blockers.
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ajalves wrote:ok jason. whatever you say man. this is what guy say cause they want to justify their cheesiness. People who are TRULY good at the game dont have to hide behind EA gimmicksjsence2 wrote:ajalves wrote:trendon wrote:I guarantee I know EXACTLY how Doctor, Razorback, and swell play. I can see it now playing out in my head.
they are 100% correct. There is no downside to the feature (play the pass, and quite honestly play the run as well most times).
Not true....run a draw play against Play the Pass, and I bet you go for 15-20 yds if you know how to run the ball behind your blockers.
.....except I don't use "play the pass". I'm just simply pointing out that when guys use it against me, I tend to bust big plays on the draw. Don't hit speed burst, let your blockers get downfield and you'll have a field day.
Just my .02, I don't care either way if it gets blocked. I just find it humorous that we're having this discussion with 9 days left in the final season.

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S15: Wake 8-5
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jsence2 wrote: I just find it humorous that we're having this discussion with 9 days left in the final season.
then dont get involved. thanks.

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ajalves wrote:jsence2 wrote: I just find it humorous that we're having this discussion with 9 days left in the final season.
then dont get involved. thanks.
I can still get involved even if I find it humorous. In fact that's usually a good reason to get involved


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... and we come around to the fact that I think half of you rely on gimmicks with your play-calling. And, to be fair, it is hardly a gimmick (noun: a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries) at this point in time and is a staple feature since, unlike all of the other EA gimmicks/features, this one stays in the game.ajalves wrote: ok jason. whatever you say man. this is what guy say cause they want to justify their cheesiness. People who are TRULY good at the game dont have to hide behind EA gimmicks
So, to all the people saying "Step up your playcalling," I respond with, "Up yours, limpdick. Step up your gameplan. Adjust."
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For the record, throwing over the middle is not a gimmich just because YOU can't stop it.trendon wrote:... and we come around to the fact that I think half of you rely on gimmicks with your play-calling. And, to be fair, it is hardly a gimmick (noun: a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries) at this point in time and is a staple feature since, unlike all of the other EA gimmicks/features, this one stays in the game.ajalves wrote: ok jason. whatever you say man. this is what guy say cause they want to justify their cheesiness. People who are TRULY good at the game dont have to hide behind EA gimmicks
So, to all the people saying "Step up your playcalling," I respond with, "Up yours, limpdick. Step up your gameplan. Adjust."

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It doesn't even take that. Throwing over the middle can be stopped by calling the right play or audibling a lb to the right zone. Of course this opens up another pass route but that's what the game is supposed to be like. A chess match. You call your play and I'll try and counter it. Not rely on ea to cover your ass because you don't know how to cover a part of the field.l_TheDoctor_l wrote:Plus throwing over the middle is stopped by the super linebacker.
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There's still the concept of Defensive AI, there's no middle ground with some teams. You either get to the QB, or you get burned. We all know teams with good D can be "bailed out" by the AI from time to time. Otherwise all the players with good records would have 100+ skill points per game.
It is an 11 man team out there.
It'd be nice to see the strat stuff balanced, as I feel it would add to the "chess effect" I'll admit it's not nearly as broken as it used to be, draw plays do work 60% of the time on guess pass, and the few times I've seen guess run, in a left or right direction, it has worked with a run in the opposite direction. I would know since I despise passing almost to a fault

It'd be nice to see the strat stuff balanced, as I feel it would add to the "chess effect" I'll admit it's not nearly as broken as it used to be, draw plays do work 60% of the time on guess pass, and the few times I've seen guess run, in a left or right direction, it has worked with a run in the opposite direction. I would know since I despise passing almost to a fault

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^^^ Are you serious?? Gameplan? By pressing L2 and up on the left thumb stick every play? Thats a gameplan? Using a cheat?! LOL you're crazy. You should just retire.trendon wrote:... and we come around to the fact that I think half of you rely on gimmicks with your play-calling. And, to be fair, it is hardly a gimmick (noun: a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries) at this point in time and is a staple feature since, unlike all of the other EA gimmicks/features, this one stays in the game.ajalves wrote: ok jason. whatever you say man. this is what guy say cause they want to justify their cheesiness. People who are TRULY good at the game dont have to hide behind EA gimmicks
So, to all the people saying "Step up your playcalling," I respond with, "Up yours, limpdick. Step up your gameplan. Adjust."

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Name one strategy that can't be nullified. The JUMP SNAP one is nuts and I defer against it because the way to nullify it often results in false start. Like I always say, people never complain about me using strategies when I am constantly getting called for holding, have no receivers open underneath because I send them long, drop passes because I have catch-and-run up, miss tackles because I have strip and big hit on, get burned on the option because I have focus on QB on aggressive, fumble because I have big run on, or get beat because I am trying to stop that fucking middle passing shit and leave tight zone on. Nope, no complaints there!Sorocco88 wrote:There's still the concept of Defensive AI, there's no middle ground with some teams. You either get to the QB, or you get burned. We all know teams with good D can be "bailed out" by the AI from time to time. Otherwise all the players with good records would have 100+ skill points per game.It is an 11 man team out there.
It'd be nice to see the strat stuff balanced, as I feel it would add to the "chess effect" I'll admit it's not nearly as broken as it used to be, draw plays do work 60% of the time on guess pass, and the few times I've seen guess run, in a left or right direction, it has worked with a run in the opposite direction. I would know since I despise passing almost to a fault
You guys don't use them so you don't know. And, dopey, you can give me zeros all you want; I use Buffalo all the time. I will be scheduling you. I will flat-out cheat against you.
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Remember, I never said it was a gimmick. Do you recall my whole premise? I claim that if you ranked everyone in this league based on "use in moderation" that I'd be ranked #1 in "Most moderate use of features" or whatever. I find dishonest play among those who claim to play the most "moderate" or the most "straight."shel311 wrote:For the record, throwing over the middle is not a gimmich just because YOU can't stop it.trendon wrote:... and we come around to the fact that I think half of you rely on gimmicks with your play-calling. And, to be fair, it is hardly a gimmick (noun: a unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries) at this point in time and is a staple feature since, unlike all of the other EA gimmicks/features, this one stays in the game.ajalves wrote: ok jason. whatever you say man. this is what guy say cause they want to justify their cheesiness. People who are TRULY good at the game dont have to hide behind EA gimmicks
So, to all the people saying "Step up your playcalling," I respond with, "Up yours, limpdick. Step up your gameplan. Adjust."
But we will go round and round on this one again. I love the strategies and think they are a great feature excluding JUMP SNAP (which, admittedly, I use anyway, LOL). Others don't. Penalize me on coaching reports; I only need a 62.5 to stay with Buffalo.
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Oh boy! LMAO! buahahaha!And, dopey, you can give me zeros all you want; I use Buffalo all the time. I will be scheduling you. I will flat-out cheat against you.
You really ARE a funny guy!

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Playing as a shitty team, sometimes you have to do anything to stay in the game. Ask nole (LSU) or randawg (Houston); against them with Tulane I will sell out of pass rush, heavy strip, heavy INT... anything to keep me in the game. Do they dock me in Coaches Reports? Who gives a shit, I'm not leaving Tulane and like Trendon said, my points amount needed is so low that if I win 1 game I am not to lose them, and even if I go winless I have a shot. I play this game to have fun and go for the big upset, that's why I don't leave Tulane, I'm supposed to just play without trying anything I can (within rules) to beat better teams? That's like saying, I want you to try, but not enough to beat me.
Same reasoning for using a play over and over, if someone keeps calling the same play on crucial moments because it is working he is supposed to NOT call it just so you have a better shot at stopping it? Thats asking someone to let you win basically.
If I play the pass on you on 3rd and long, and you dock me, do it. It won't be in offensive or defensive variety, it won't be in knows the NDL rules; so OVERALL and REALISM is the only two you can dock me in. Go for it, I'll still be at Tulane.
Same reasoning for using a play over and over, if someone keeps calling the same play on crucial moments because it is working he is supposed to NOT call it just so you have a better shot at stopping it? Thats asking someone to let you win basically.
If I play the pass on you on 3rd and long, and you dock me, do it. It won't be in offensive or defensive variety, it won't be in knows the NDL rules; so OVERALL and REALISM is the only two you can dock me in. Go for it, I'll still be at Tulane.
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Pretty lame thought process. So because you have a bad team you can play like a tool?Uuaww wrote:Playing as a shitty team, sometimes you have to do anything to stay in the game. Ask nole (LSU) or randawg (Houston); against them with Tulane I will sell out of pass rush, heavy strip, heavy INT... anything to keep me in the game. Do they dock me in Coaches Reports? Who gives a shit, I'm not leaving Tulane and like Trendon said, my points amount needed is so low that if I win 1 game I am not to lose them, and even if I go winless I have a shot. I play this game to have fun and go for the big upset, that's why I don't leave Tulane, I'm supposed to just play without trying anything I can (within rules) to beat better teams? That's like saying, I want you to try, but not enough to beat me.
Same reasoning for using a play over and over, if someone keeps calling the same play on crucial moments because it is working he is supposed to NOT call it just so you have a better shot at stopping it? Thats asking someone to let you win basically.
If I play the pass on you on 3rd and long, and you dock me, do it. It won't be in offensive or defensive variety, it won't be in knows the NDL rules; so OVERALL and REALISM is the only two you can dock me in. Go for it, I'll still be at Tulane.
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Yup, I play like a tool, I received nearly perfect coaches reports the last 2 seasons. How is using heavy strip and heavy INT playing like a tool? I can't stop there offenses. Down 21-7 to LSU with Tulane; down 14-0 to Houston, I guess I am supposed to not try anything I can to get back into the game. Don't get me wrong, just because I lose constantly doesn't mean I don't play to win. But all in moderation, never started a game with that stuff on and unless I get down big and need turnovers, they don't come on.BIGmike wrote:Pretty lame thought process. So because you have a bad team you can play like a tool?Uuaww wrote:Playing as a shitty team, sometimes you have to do anything to stay in the game. Ask nole (LSU) or randawg (Houston); against them with Tulane I will sell out of pass rush, heavy strip, heavy INT... anything to keep me in the game. Do they dock me in Coaches Reports? Who gives a shit, I'm not leaving Tulane and like Trendon said, my points amount needed is so low that if I win 1 game I am not to lose them, and even if I go winless I have a shot. I play this game to have fun and go for the big upset, that's why I don't leave Tulane, I'm supposed to just play without trying anything I can (within rules) to beat better teams? That's like saying, I want you to try, but not enough to beat me.
Same reasoning for using a play over and over, if someone keeps calling the same play on crucial moments because it is working he is supposed to NOT call it just so you have a better shot at stopping it? Thats asking someone to let you win basically.
If I play the pass on you on 3rd and long, and you dock me, do it. It won't be in offensive or defensive variety, it won't be in knows the NDL rules; so OVERALL and REALISM is the only two you can dock me in. Go for it, I'll still be at Tulane.
Am I using that kind of defense against Rice or SMU? no, I can stop them (but didn't)
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You couldnt work on user strip to strip the ball? You couldnt Hot Route a defender and make him do a deep zone, hook zone , man to man or some thing in a base defense that would add a wrinkle to it that might confuse them?Uuaww wrote:Yup, I play like a tool, I received nearly perfect coaches reports the last 2 seasons. How is using heavy strip and heavy INT playing like a tool? I can't stop there offenses. Down 21-7 to LSU with Tulane; down 14-0 to Houston, I guess I am supposed to not try anything I can to get back into the game. Don't get me wrong, just because I lose constantly doesn't mean I don't play to win. But all in moderation, never started a game with that stuff on and unless I get down big and need turnovers, they don't come on.BIGmike wrote:Pretty lame thought process. So because you have a bad team you can play like a tool?Uuaww wrote:Playing as a shitty team, sometimes you have to do anything to stay in the game. Ask nole (LSU) or randawg (Houston); against them with Tulane I will sell out of pass rush, heavy strip, heavy INT... anything to keep me in the game. Do they dock me in Coaches Reports? Who gives a shit, I'm not leaving Tulane and like Trendon said, my points amount needed is so low that if I win 1 game I am not to lose them, and even if I go winless I have a shot. I play this game to have fun and go for the big upset, that's why I don't leave Tulane, I'm supposed to just play without trying anything I can (within rules) to beat better teams? That's like saying, I want you to try, but not enough to beat me.
Same reasoning for using a play over and over, if someone keeps calling the same play on crucial moments because it is working he is supposed to NOT call it just so you have a better shot at stopping it? Thats asking someone to let you win basically.
If I play the pass on you on 3rd and long, and you dock me, do it. It won't be in offensive or defensive variety, it won't be in knows the NDL rules; so OVERALL and REALISM is the only two you can dock me in. Go for it, I'll still be at Tulane.
Am I using that kind of defense against Rice or SMU? no, I can stop them (but didn't)


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Oh I do all of the above. I only lost to LSU 38-21, and to Houston 24-10. I played awesome those games but when I get down big, I am adding everything, so strip/pick come on. If I come back I turn them off. If that isn't moderation, I don't know what is and if I get docked for it, so be it. I learned my lesson years ago about using too many of those.BFiVL wrote:You couldnt work on user strip to strip the ball? You couldnt Hot Route a defender and make him do a deep zone, hook zone , man to man or some thing in a base defense that would add a wrinkle to it that might confuse them?Uuaww wrote:Yup, I play like a tool, I received nearly perfect coaches reports the last 2 seasons. How is using heavy strip and heavy INT playing like a tool? I can't stop there offenses. Down 21-7 to LSU with Tulane; down 14-0 to Houston, I guess I am supposed to not try anything I can to get back into the game. Don't get me wrong, just because I lose constantly doesn't mean I don't play to win. But all in moderation, never started a game with that stuff on and unless I get down big and need turnovers, they don't come on.BIGmike wrote:Pretty lame thought process. So because you have a bad team you can play like a tool?Uuaww wrote:Playing as a shitty team, sometimes you have to do anything to stay in the game. Ask nole (LSU) or randawg (Houston); against them with Tulane I will sell out of pass rush, heavy strip, heavy INT... anything to keep me in the game. Do they dock me in Coaches Reports? Who gives a shit, I'm not leaving Tulane and like Trendon said, my points amount needed is so low that if I win 1 game I am not to lose them, and even if I go winless I have a shot. I play this game to have fun and go for the big upset, that's why I don't leave Tulane, I'm supposed to just play without trying anything I can (within rules) to beat better teams? That's like saying, I want you to try, but not enough to beat me.
Same reasoning for using a play over and over, if someone keeps calling the same play on crucial moments because it is working he is supposed to NOT call it just so you have a better shot at stopping it? Thats asking someone to let you win basically.
If I play the pass on you on 3rd and long, and you dock me, do it. It won't be in offensive or defensive variety, it won't be in knows the NDL rules; so OVERALL and REALISM is the only two you can dock me in. Go for it, I'll still be at Tulane.
Am I using that kind of defense against Rice or SMU? no, I can stop them (but didn't)
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Also this is probably my worst season ever. I have been flat out outplayed by Arkansas, ECU, SMU and North Texas; Overmatched against Houston, Tulsa and LSU; and lost a few heartbreakers in the middle. I mean I went 8-6 and made it to the CUSA championship game 2 seasons ago in this game with the same Tulane team.
But as usual bitching about anything seems to be irrelevant because coaches reports around the league are awesome. My gameplay probably sounds much worse than it is, but if coaches reports say I am doing something wrong then I will change. I haven't been told otherwise in a few seasons so I keep doing what I do.
But as usual bitching about anything seems to be irrelevant because coaches reports around the league are awesome. My gameplay probably sounds much worse than it is, but if coaches reports say I am doing something wrong then I will change. I haven't been told otherwise in a few seasons so I keep doing what I do.