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Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:51 am
by wdoupis
I think Trump will probably win but I do think Biden has a better chance than Bernie of beating him.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:52 am
by Cnasty
wdoupis wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:51 am I think Trump will probably win but I do think Biden has a better chance than Bernie of beating him.
Totally agree there.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:22 pm
by nick
https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... -spreading

Imagine knowing about it since November and doing nothing. Trump and his fan base are a bunch of hacks.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:30 pm
by shel311
Funniest part is since the projections so early were absurdly high, going from 2.2 million projected to finishing under 100k(possibly) will be considered a huge victory by Trump. And the right will use that to show how great of a job he's done.

He saved 2 million lives!!!

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:32 pm
by nick
Yep. I remember reading ppl saying they’d rather overreact and be wrong than under react and be right. But with that comes narratives and bs.

That said Trump could come out tomorrow and say his policies were based off Hitler and he’d still destroy Biden.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:35 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:22 pm https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... -spreading

Imagine knowing about it since November and doing nothing. Trump and his fan base are a bunch of hacks.
I'm not a big fan of the WHO for this one as they got it wrong from the get go with saying there was no human to human transmission. But here is what they have on their website:

Summary

• A pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan, China was first reported to the WHO Country Office in China on 31 December 2019.

• WHO is working 24/7 to analyse data, provide advice, coordinate with partners, help countries prepare, increase supplies and manage expert networks.

• The outbreak was declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern on 30 January 2020.

• The international community has asked for US$675 million to help protect states with weaker health systems as part of its Strategic Preparedness and Response Plan.

• On 11 February 2020, WHO announced a name for the new coronavirus disease: COVID-19.
So when did this start? Are we now accepting that this was going around in November?

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:35 pm
by nick
Bodog has Trump -120 to Biden +135. What I found interesting is before the lines were taken down Andrew Cuomo had a better chance if repping the Dems over Bernie Sanders. Albeit still both insane odds at +1400 and +1600

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:36 pm
by nick
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:35 pm
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:22 pm https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... -spreading

Imagine knowing about it since November and doing nothing. Trump and his fan base are a bunch of hacks.
I'm not a big fan of the WHO for this one as they got it wrong from the get go with saying there was no human to human transmission. But here is what they have on their website:

Summary

• A pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan, China was first reported to the WHO Country Office in China on 31 December 2019.

• WHO is working 24/7 to analyse data, provide advice, coordinate with partners, help countries prepare, increase supplies and manage expert networks.

• The outbreak was declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern on 30 January 2020.

• The international community has asked for US$675 million to help protect states with weaker health systems as part of its Strategic Preparedness and Response Plan.

• On 11 February 2020, WHO announced a name for the new coronavirus disease: COVID-19.
So when did this start? Are we now accepting that this was going around in November?
They’ve had it down to November in Wuhan for a long time now.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:36 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:32 pm Yep. I remember reading ppl saying they’d rather overreact and be wrong than under react and be right. But with that comes narratives and bs.

That said Trump could come out tomorrow and say his policies were based off Hitler and he’d still destroy Biden.
Biden is a horrible candidate to try to beat Trump. He is not quick enough on his feet and will get destroyed at debates once things go off topic, something Trump is pretty good at navigating.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:37 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:36 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:35 pm
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:22 pm https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... -spreading

Imagine knowing about it since November and doing nothing. Trump and his fan base are a bunch of hacks.
I'm not a big fan of the WHO for this one as they got it wrong from the get go with saying there was no human to human transmission. But here is what they have on their website:

Summary

• A pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan, China was first reported to the WHO Country Office in China on 31 December 2019.

• WHO is working 24/7 to analyse data, provide advice, coordinate with partners, help countries prepare, increase supplies and manage expert networks.

• The outbreak was declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern on 30 January 2020.

• The international community has asked for US$675 million to help protect states with weaker health systems as part of its Strategic Preparedness and Response Plan.

• On 11 February 2020, WHO announced a name for the new coronavirus disease: COVID-19.
So when did this start? Are we now accepting that this was going around in November?
They’ve had it down to November in Wuhan for a long time now.
who is "THEY"

Not being sarcastic with that either. But if the WHO site has it in December then what are we to believe?

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:38 pm
by nick
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:37 pm
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:36 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:35 pm
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:22 pm https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... -spreading

Imagine knowing about it since November and doing nothing. Trump and his fan base are a bunch of hacks.
I'm not a big fan of the WHO for this one as they got it wrong from the get go with saying there was no human to human transmission. But here is what they have on their website:

Summary

• A pneumonia of unknown cause detected in Wuhan, China was first reported to the WHO Country Office in China on 31 December 2019.

• WHO is working 24/7 to analyse data, provide advice, coordinate with partners, help countries prepare, increase supplies and manage expert networks.

• The outbreak was declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern on 30 January 2020.

• The international community has asked for US$675 million to help protect states with weaker health systems as part of its Strategic Preparedness and Response Plan.

• On 11 February 2020, WHO announced a name for the new coronavirus disease: COVID-19.
So when did this start? Are we now accepting that this was going around in November?
They’ve had it down to November in Wuhan for a long time now.
who is "THEY"

Not being sarcastic with that either. But if the WHO site has it in December then what are we to believe?
You don’t have to believe it. You also blindly support trump and think he has your best interests in mind.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:40 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:38 pm
You don’t have to believe it. You also blindly support trump and think he has your best interests in mind.
There you go again with your assumptions and defecting from the original question. I asked a simple question. If the WHO is saying it was in December (off their website right now), who are we to believe?

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:41 pm
by nick
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:40 pm
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:38 pm
You don’t have to believe it. You also blindly support trump and think he has your best interests in mind.
There you go again with your assumptions and defecting from the original question. I asked a simple question. If the WHO is saying it was in December (off their website right now), who are we to believe?
Ok George. Whatever you say

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:43 pm
by nick
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... how-report

I dunno if you’ll believe it tho. The Chinese government posted it and not WHO

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society ... raced-back

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:44 pm
by nick
I mean the guy from the CDC on Rogans podcast also said November 3rd week but what does he know he doesn’t work for WHO

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:47 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:44 pm I mean the guy from the CDC on Rogans podcast also said November 3rd week but what does he know he doesn’t work for WHO
I don't listen to podcasts.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:49 pm
by nick
You don’t listen to science either

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:51 pm
by GeorgesGoons
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:49 pm You don’t listen to science either
haha, like I said. Who are we to believe? Chinese Government or the WHO?

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:00 pm
by shel311
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:51 pm
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:49 pm You don’t listen to science either
haha, like I said. Who are we to believe? Chinese Government or the WHO?
The WHO says what the Chinese government tells them to say, so they are one in the same.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:01 pm
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:00 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:51 pm
nick wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:49 pm You don’t listen to science either
haha, like I said. Who are we to believe? Chinese Government or the WHO?
The WHO says what the Chinese government tells them to say, so they are one in the same.
Are they? The WHO website is reporting something different than the Chinese Government. That's why I ask, who are we to believe?