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How did that dude fall to the 2nd round??

Daniels still managed a 7.6 WAR while his zone rating is a -17.5
Herrera 8.3 WAR, plays catcher and fewer ABs.
I think Miami got screwed again in the MVP race.

Both of these guys drafted supplemental or later...

Ry wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:57 am Daniels still managed a 7.6 WAR while his zone rating is a -17.5
Herrera 8.3 WAR, plays catcher and fewer ABs.
I think Miami got screwed again in the MVP race.

Both of these guys drafted supplemental or later...

Daniels was by far the superior hitter of the two this year

As a team in 2072:
2nd in Def Eff
5th in ZR
1st in Errors

With that I won a single gold glove. It was a SP who pitched 8 games in the AL (22 in the NL) and had a combined -2.4 ZR over the course of the season. Seems legit OOTP.

Defense is overrated.

Ry wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:57 am Daniels still managed a 7.6 WAR while his zone rating is a -17.5
Herrera 8.3 WAR, plays catcher and fewer ABs.
I think Miami got screwed again in the MVP race.

Both of these guys drafted supplemental or later...

I'm still trying to figure out why Daniels is playing in the field of a team whose DH had a sub .300 OBP.

this game is retarded

WPA is probably the only thing Daniels can claim... But over in the AL, Sexton was only 38th so I'm with Nick here

WAR is more valuable than WPA tho.

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comme ... rtant_why/

WAR is all about taking all stats in a vacuum and I think that's what sabremetrics agrees on. A guy who hits a home run in the first inning will have less WPA than a guy who hits a home run in the 9th inning to win the game. In reality though, both home runs are worth equal amounts, but our perception of them changes given the situation.

WPA is much more dependent on the rest of your team

WPA doesn't measure the most direct contributions to winning. It measures the highest-leverage contributions. If two players on the same team each hit a solo HR in a game, each home run provided the same contribution to winning. But if one of those home runs was in the first and the other was a walk-off, they'll have different WPAs. Even though they both helped the same and the first made the second possible. The first run is just as important as the winning run.

3rd time now too. can we just have manual voting? rather get fucked by your guys.

Is it really that big of a travesty that Daniels won the MVP? I would have voted him hands down over Herrera.

Neal Herrera -
1st in WAR
1st in BA
3rd in OBP
4th in Slugging
3rd in OPS
7th in RBI
5th in TB
6th in 2B
4th in RC
4th in RC/27
3rd in wOBA
8th in SF

Roger Daniels -
2nd in WAR
2nd in BA
1st in OBP
1st in Slugging
1st in OPS
1st in RBI
2nd in TB
2nd in XBH
6th in 2B
1st in HR
1st in Runs
1st in Walks
1st in IBB
1st in RC
1st in RC/27
1st in wOBA
2nd in ISO

DRWebs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:04 pm WPA is probably the only thing Daniels can claim...

And he was damn near doubled Herrera and 3.34 WPA over 2nd place at 4.6

Daniels should be tested for HGH though

George has said on numerous occasions he doesn't care about defense so use that for context on that big long post of his

DRWebs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:10 pm George has said on numerous occasions he doesn't care about defense so that big long post of his makes all kinds of sense

Herrera's average defense isn't making up that many games versus Daniels horrible defense.

Herrera threw out 21% of would be runners, good for 7th in the NL (middle of the pack). Does that make up the superiority of Daniels bat this season? I don't think so, whether you are a defensive guy or not

Herrera should have won hands down and you're part of the very few who don't think so

DRWebs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:16 pm Herrera should have won hands down and your part of the very few who doesn't think so

Well, let's see

viewtopic.php?f=109&t=41543

redwings8831 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:45 am Defense is overrated.

You fit right in here.

Cnasty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:21 am

wdoupis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:10 am

David Magoon wins AL Rookie of the Year going 9-10 with a 2.87 era

Way to go fellas!!

Thought former 15th round pick Steve Franks had a legit shot at this.....

Neurotic wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:31 pm

redwings8831 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:45 am Defense is overrated.

You fit right in here.

-36 ZR for the season