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jsence2 wrote:I mean, where does it end?
You're right, where does it end?

Do we make porn illegal?

Doe we make premarital sex illegal and prosecute it to the fullest extent of the law.

After all, like you said, this country was founded on christian beliefs, so let's follow the bible word for word.


And on that note, for you to feel this stronly about this topic, I'm gonna assume you have NEVER had sex before, especially not with a few different chicks.

And I'm also gonna assume you dont watch porn, never have, and have NEVER clicked on any thread in our felame forum.

Cause that would be quite hypocritical, wouldn't it?

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I remember my uncle used to preach like you god lovers at our family get togethers. He is actually my favorite uncle, but once he gets going on his bible humping I can't help but mute my ears. Brainwashing at its best.

Again, you are discriminating against someone because of a god that cannot be proven to exist. How silly.


Anyway, I'm out of this thread before I become permanently retarded.
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Matt90210 wrote:I remember my uncle used to preach like you god lovers at our family get togethers. He is actually my favorite uncle, but once he gets going on his bible humping I can't help but mute my ears. Brainwashing at its best.

Again, you are discriminating against someone because of a god that cannot be proven to exist. How silly.


Anyway, I'm out of this thread before I become permanently retarded.


Till you take the time to realize that truth comes from thinking from both sides of a case and researching them both you will not understand Matt.
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jsence2 wrote:Why should they get legal rights to marriage? Marriage is "man and woman". That simple.
It used to be 'that simple'. Maybe its not anymore. Times have changed, like it or not. It might say that in the bible, but what's that got to do with laws? Should be a seperation there shouldn't there?

Plus like I said before, you could marry your dog for all I care. Quit worrying about what other people are doing and worry about yourself.
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ajalves wrote:
jsence2 wrote:Why should they get legal rights to marriage? Marriage is "man and woman". That simple.
It used to be 'that simple'. Maybe its not anymore. Times have changed, like it or not. It might say that in the bible, but what's that got to do with laws? Should be a seperation there shouldn't there?.
Jsence is gonna tell you the country was founded on Christian beliefs and that the bible says gays shouldn't marry.

Then, he's gonna turn around and ignore things like premarital sex and watching porn.

BOOK IT!!!
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shel311 wrote:
ajalves wrote:
jsence2 wrote:Why should they get legal rights to marriage? Marriage is "man and woman". That simple.
It used to be 'that simple'. Maybe its not anymore. Times have changed, like it or not. It might say that in the bible, but what's that got to do with laws? Should be a seperation there shouldn't there?.
Jsence is gonna tell you the country was founded on Christian beliefs and that the bible says gays shouldn't marry.

Then, he's gonna turn around and ignore things like premarital sex and watching porn.

BOOK IT!!!
I dont know him so the chances of me using him as my moral compass is nil :)

and tell him there is a difference between faith and blind faith. Take the blinders off
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jsence2 wrote:
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jsence2 wrote:Their RIGHTS?

They don't HAVE THE RIGHT to "rights"; what they want is against the law of God. THE LORD GIVETH, AND THE LORD TAKETH AWAY!!!!
Just curious, can you explain? (I'm not trying to start anything here just curious because it made you sound a little ignorant and not what most Christians would want as the face of Christianity)

Also, I think this is a mute point if it is a "Civil Union" rather than Marriage. Most of the devout Christians that I talk to is okay with the Civil Union concept but completely against the Marriage of two people of the same sex.
I mean they have no basis to claim to get "equal rights" to marriage, when marriage is an INSTITUTION OF GOD! They don't have the right to ask for the same recognition in the eyes of the Lord when the Lord has strictly forbidden exactly what they want!

As FSUPengy said, they're not having anything taken away from them; this is like a man getting pissed at a baseball game's "Mother's Day giveaway" because he's not a woman, and the women are getting something he's not. Mother's Day is about the mother; marriage is about a MAN AND A WOMAN IN THE SIGHT OF THE LORD.
I see your point now. What do you think if they were trying for Civil Unions rather than marriage?
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Well, I must be an asshole and an elitist.

Ive never forced any of my Christian beliefs onto anybody..

I will say this..

Jeffdaddy believes Jesus is the biggest stud to ever walk the Earth.

I am thankful that he died to save my life.

Im going at this from a society aspect and IN MY OPINION, the more liberal and radical we are becoming, the worse our country, and worse our children our becoming. Maybe because I teach in the ghetto, with a bunch of illiegals, but fuck it....LET EM ALL IN!! ILLIEGALS HAVE RIGHTS TOO!!

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jeff, whats your view on premarital sex?
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DRiccio21 wrote:jeff, whats your view on premarital sex?
Ive done it, asked for forgiveness and havent done it in a few years to be honest. Once I get married, Im back tho, LOL..

I believe in 2nd and 3rd base tho :)

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time the fuck out, you havent had sex in a FEW YEARS???

i mean to each his own, you're just a better man then me.
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Shel, that shows how little you know me.

I was engaged to a girl I dated for over three years. We did not have sex, and that was a decision we both made as CHRISTIANS. She had promised God she would save herself for marriage and she did. We eventually broke up, but from basically 20-24, I didn't have sex--the prime years of a guy's life--because of my beliefs. There were times where we COULD have (we fooled around and had quite a few times where we both wanted to say "to hell with it"), but we had made a commitment to ourselves and the Lord, and we resisted our selfish urges.

She and I split due to personal reasons, and she is engaged to get married this fall, and she has still held to her promise to God.

As for me, I told you before--I slip up. I have not WATCHED porn, in a very long time. I don't go to porn sites, I don't peruse nudie mags. Yes, I've looked at threads in the forum; not all of them are naked, and you can see worse things in R-rated films and in Maxim magazine nowadays. As for my sex life, that is between me and the Lord, but yes I've made mistakes; I have asked forgiveness for them, and "asking for forgiveness" doesn't simply mean saying "Sorry, God" and then doing it again;

it means asking for not only His forgiveness for that transgression, but also for the strength and the wisdom to keep from giving into that temptation again, or re-committing that sin.
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jsence2 wrote:Shel, that shows how little you know me.
If I'm not mistaken, you just admitted to having sex and watching porn at one time or another, so I guess I know a little something. :lol:
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DRiccio21 wrote:time the fuck out, you havent had sex in a FEW YEARS???

i mean to each his own, you're just a better man then me.
I feel like life itself has just thrown me a 12 to 6 curveball.

I dont even know what to do with myself any more.

JeffDaddy hasn't had sex in a FEW YEARS???

:shock: :shock: :shock:
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shel311 wrote:JeffDaddy hasn't had sex in a FEW YEARS???
If you guys didnt go back to the hotel to spoon each other, you would have heard the elaborate Jeffdaddy monologue regarding this. It is quite classic.

Hell, I dont even know if Stan was face down in the carpet at this time but it was hilarious. :lol:
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I respect everyone's choices. I will say if I am going to hell for banging broads before I got married, then so be it
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biblically speaking, that would have nothing to do with your afterlife. the bible states that it comes down to one decision, and ironically enough it's the same decision pilate had to deal with: what do we do with Jesus? if we accept his gift to us, it's a regeneration of spirit (that's where the "born again" term comes from) that has an impact on our behavior. while no one will be sinless, it does have an impact on our desires, i.e. it will make the behavior you mentioned something that one might not want to take part in. it's about a submission to God's will vs our will. the bible isn't about a rule book in which we get strikes put against us. in fact, it tells us that all of us sin. the question is, what will we do with Jesus? the "rules" given in the bible are for our benefit, spiritually, emotionally, and physically.

there's a great c.s. lewis quote that fits the train of thought you're stating because it is a thought that many people share. it goes something like this:

"there are two kinds of people in the world: those who say to God, 'thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'thy will be done.'"

you stated that you respect everyone's choices and so do i. ultimately, so does God.
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jsence2 wrote:I've made mistakes; I have asked forgiveness for them, and "asking for forgiveness" doesn't simply mean saying "Sorry, God" and then doing it again;

it means asking for not only His forgiveness for that transgression, but also for the strength and the wisdom to keep from giving into that temptation again, or re-committing that sin.
Ahh, the old Christian "Get of Jail Free Card". Yeah I love that one. I'll do what I want when I want and I'm fine as long as I acknowledge it and ask for forgiveness. Whoever thought that one up was a genius.
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i believe in a single God. I believe that we at some point do get judged based on our actions. i try my best to not hurt people intentionally, i always think of the decisions b/w right and wrong when i do something.

to me thats what being a catholic christian is.

if you guys have your own ways of believing how you need to act before you are judged, i applaud you and i hope you find peace and comfort in your actions/decisions... just don't tell me what i have to do to be accepted by Jesus, thats where i get turned off and i think thats why most people move away from religion.

I'd feel like a hypocrite if i stopped my sexcapades now since i've thanked God for my blessings the following morning after all of them.
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DRiccio21 wrote:I'd feel like a hypocrite if i stopped my sexcapades now since i've thanked God for my blessings the following morning after all of them.
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