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[nick]

hopefully they burn the city down.

What a laughable judicial system in the US tho. Someone should cross state lines with an AR and find Kyle.

But also sad that every like 40 year old dudes idol is a kid.

[shel311]

hopefully they burn the city down.

What a laughable judicial system in the US tho.

This is true for many reasons, sure as shit not this verdict though.


It's absurd to think he's guilty of 1st degree murder, just completely absurd.

Someone should cross state lines with an AR and find Kyle.

If Kyle attacked that person, you're on record that the person with the AR should not be able to legally fire then, right?

[nick]

Iunno man. I’ve never held a gun in my life. But I’m also not a pussy so that’s to be expected

I also at 17 wasn’t such a conservative loser that I decided to go to other provinces/states with a gun to protest stuff and “protect small businesses!!!”

But then again I had good parents growing up

[Crowes]

hopefully they burn the city down.

What a laughable judicial system in the US tho.

This is true for many reasons, sure as shit not this verdict though.


It's absurd to think he's guilty of 1st degree murder, just completely absurd.

Someone should cross state lines with an AR and find Kyle.

If Kyle attacked that person, you're on record that the person with the AR should not be able to legally fire then, right?

Prosecution definitely overcharged.

Do you think his actions warrant a criminal conviction of some degree?

[GeorgesGoons]

Prosecution definitely overcharged.

Do you think his actions warrant a criminal conviction of some degree?

agree with the overcharged. Hell, they even knew that the gun charge was a BS charge. How do I know it?!? The judge asked to measure the barrel in court to see if it fit the description in the law. Prosecution promptly withdrew charge.

Honestly, not at all I watched over 90% of this trial and the prosecutors were way over their head. Any one of us could have defended Rittenhouse and gotten him off.

I think the Judge was going to throw out the conviction if they came back with a guilty verdict. I think that is why he never ruled on all the motions to dismiss. And there were multiple times the prosecution should have had the case thrown out by the judge via mistrial (with or without prejudice).

[GeorgesGoons]

Iunno man. I’ve never held a gun in my life. But I’m also not a pussy so that’s to be expected

I also at 17 wasn’t such a conservative loser that I decided to go to other provinces/states with a gun to protest stuff and “protect small businesses!!!”

But then again I had good parents growing up

You do know his dad and grandma live there and he worked in Kenosha that summer as a lifeguard...right?!? So why shouldn't he have a stake in what's going on there? He also never took a gun over state lines.

[nick]

I work in Toronto so if theres a riot downtown I can go with an AR and kill ppl

Got it.

I’ll just say I was “putting out fires and protecting small businesses I never buy from cause Amazon exists”

[GeorgesGoons]

I work in Toronto so if theres a riot downtown I can go with an AR and kill ppl

Got it.

I’ll just say I was “putting out fires and protecting small businesses I never buy from cause Amazon exists”

What does your laws say? Are you allowed to defend yourself at all costs if people are attacking you?

If I recall correctly you aren't a small guy. What if that little pedo started to attack you and you punched him once and he fell hit his head and died....should you go to jail for the rest of your life for 1st degree murder? Same exact thing as with Rittenhouse. He is allowed to defend himself. And he is allowed to carry a rifle because.....America allows it for law abiding citizens.

[nick]

Nothing about the incident matters to me. It starts with the below average parents who drove him to it with a gun.

[shel311]

There's 2 different things going on here.

A 17 year old going into a riot with a gun is always going to be a terrible idea.

But, as far as I understand, that is not illegal.

And when you watch the video of each dude he shot, I imagine you'd have a really tough time explaining how it was NOT self defense. Each guy he shot was in the process of attacking him.

He made really stupid decisions putting himself in that position without question, I just fail to see how that isn't self defense. And it was quite obviously never anything close to 1st degree murder.

[nick]

If I went to a below average area in my city (Jane and finch) and I had a gun and someone tried to rob me and I killed them, everyone around the world would say “self defense”. Most ppl in Toronto would be “why would you be at Jane and Finch at night??”

The same applies here. We get the situation but why are you there?

He knew what he was doing. He got lucky that the dudes he killed were low grade pieces of shit to society.

[GeorgesGoons]

Nothing about the incident matters to me. It starts with the below average parents who drove him to it with a gun.

Obviously this matters nothing to you. You don't even have the facts correct! His mom never drove him there that night. Nor did he drive up there with a gun across state lines. It was his friends gun, think he was selling it to Rittenhouse

[shel311]

If I went to a below average area in my city (Jane and finch) and I had a gun and someone tried to rob me and I killed them, everyone around the world would say “self defense”. Most ppl in Toronto would be “why would you be at Jane and Finch at night??”

The same applies here. We get the situation but why are you there?

I agree, and that is exactly what I said above.

He shouldn't have been there, but at the end of the day, it was not illegal for him to be there. It was dumb, just not illegal.

But like you just conceded, it was self defense, so that's basically it, case closed. It's certainly not 1st degree murder.

[nick]

Eh I don’t think it’s self defense. I think it’s pre meditated self defense which shouldn’t be allowed. He went to this protest with a gun and knew shit could happen. He’s now given carte Blanche that anything that happens he won’t get in trouble. That’s not self defense that’s knowing that you can get away with murder.

[nick]

This also just opened such a bad loop hole in your system. There’s no reason I wouldn’t walk around with a gun going forward. If anything happens shoot them and get self defense. We now have a case you can defend your side on. Brutal. Don’t argue with ppl who might feel threatened cause ya

[shel311]

He’s now given carte Blanche that anything that happens he won’t get in trouble.

1. He can't get away with "anything"

2. If he isn't allowed to defend himself, then you're quite literally giving carte blanche that attackers can actually do anything they wanted because the person being attacked isn't allowed to defend himself.

[shel311]

This also just opened such a bad loop hole in your system.

Finding him guilty of 1st degree murder would have been infinitely worse in terms of setting precedents. It would set the precedent that you could NEVER defend yourself with a gun any more.

There’s no reason I wouldn’t walk around with a gun going forward. If anything happens shoot them and get self defense.

This wasn't the first time someone in America walked around with a gun.

Don’t argue with ppl who might feel threatened cause ya

Argue with...or attack? Huge difference. You're insinuating the 3 people he shot were simply arguing with him, but that is not true. They were full on attacking him, by any standard you want to set.

[nick]

I mean… the fact y’all have to defend yourselves with guns (because everyone and their Cousin has one) is kinda sad in general. I go outside and I assure you I don’t have a gun. If shit goes down the fairy gun mother isn’t gonna drop one from the sky for me. Dunno how I survive tbh

[ReignOnU]

I'm surprised how long it took.. and actually concerned that the court of public opinion is seemingly becoming as important as the actual law.

[GeorgesGoons]

I'm surprised how long it took.. and actually concerned that the court of public opinion is seemingly becoming as important as the actual law.

I think they were taking as long as possible hoping the Judge would have thrown out the case. That's my guess