2078 Season Thread... 2 Rings for the Wings

[jeheinz72]

Honestly this whole conversation jumped the shark when you basically said you thought he cheated but just weren’t 100%

I never said that.

I’m not Roggies keeper man. I don’t really care lol

You've called out all the old school forums dudes, you didn't say you're not our keeper and don't care. You jumped right in to call us out.

But all of a sudden when it comes to Roggie, you couldn't dare to call him out. Hmm...

True but you did point out how you didn’t say he didn’t cheat. So your turn for an honest answer. Did he cheat - all or nothing time. Did he 100% not cheat Shel?

I didn’t call out Roggie because that convo had nothing to do with me. I’m not the forum police homie. Nor am I in charge of making Roggie or mike be nice to people, nor are they in charge of me that way

George and nick go back and forth all the time at each with unfair digs, do I have to call them out too each time? Don’t try and lay some sort of weird responsibilities on me

[shel311]

Did he cheat - all or nothing time. Did he 100% not cheat Shel?

The answer is I have no clue. I I said multiple times I've never mentioned that he 100% didn't cheat. You folks are saying he 100% did, yourself included, which is why I'm laughing at this notion that some posters who are doing just that are also saying I'm the guy with the "you dudes are lesser than us" attitude.

Would you agree that in this debate its the side you're on and not me that is displaying the "you're lesser than" attitude? Not sure how you'd argue otherwise at this point since the argument is if you don't agree with my opinion then you're wrong lol.

I didn’t call out Roggie because that convo had nothing to do with me. I’m not the forum police homie. Nor am I in charge of making Roggie or mike be nice to people, nor are they in charge of me that way

It's just a lot of reasons for you that you're not calling them out but you don't afford those same reasons to the old school dudes, why is that?

Don’t try and lay some sort of weird responsibilities on me

I'll make you a deal, I won't lay weird responsibilities on you if you stop making weird reasons for calling out one group but not another when we know the actual reason. Deal? You concede you're just sticking up for your bros, and I'll concede that I shouldn't lay those weird responsibilities on you.

[ajalves]

over and over and over and our league had some suckers who continually allowed it to happen.

And also, AJ won like 3 straight titles in this league at one time... that’s a far more obscure run given how inept he is and I think you should be saving your vitriol for him

happy new year fuckface

[ajalves]

E) AJ won 3 titles in a row, did I mention how unrealistic that is.

for the record, I was a game away from 5 straight if I recall...

I was winning titles before Rhode Island was even making the playoffs David....

[jeheinz72]

Did he cheat - all or nothing time. Did he 100% not cheat Shel?

The answer is I have no clue. I I said multiple times I've never mentioned that he 100% didn't cheat.

Nah. We said honest answers Shel. Do or die time. You gotta put your last dollar on the line, he cheated or he didn’t. Gotta pick what, in your opinion, happened. No half measures.


As far as your deal, no. I’m not sticking up for anyone. Do I agree with Mike that I think he 100% cheated? Yes. I’ve played the game long enough that it’s just plainly obvious to me.

I get what George said that facing the truth woulda wrecked shit. I at least get that way of looking at it

How mike or Roggie or anyone want to make the argument and if they are meanie heads to you or not just isn’t my department. Sorry homie.

[shel311]

How mike or Roggie or anyone want to make the argument and if they are meanie heads to you or not just isn’t my department. Sorry homie.

Right, more reasons why it's not your department to call them out but you quickly call out the old school dudes.

That's the point. You're just enforcing it.

[DParm]

Though I think honestly this conversation has illuminated likely a larger issue. One being that Mike/Roggie/me/RW are evidently perpetually lesser-than because we all were previously in another league together, that other GMs here didn't enjoy.

I can only speak for myself but I have no issues with any of you guys and I actually think you’re all far better owners than what you replaced. We don’t all need to love each other but we also don’t need to be disrespectful either.

So you think Im a better GM than that weirdo (i use weirdo loosely here, yanno cheek and tongue) that ran the ducks prior to me? Blasphemy. Sorry, I got tired of reading, and wanted to type something. Im too new to get involved in this conversation, however I think I started this....I brought up Marino. Any relation to Dan I wonder? Did Jorge wear number 13?

[jeheinz72]

How mike or Roggie or anyone want to make the argument and if they are meanie heads to you or not just isn’t my department. Sorry homie.

Right, more reasons why it's not your department to call them out but you quickly call out the old school dudes.

That's the point. You're just enforcing it.

Gonna answer the honesty question or nah?

[shel311]

Im too new to get involved in this conversation, however I think I started this....I brought up Marino

Shit, I think you did start it.

[shel311]

How mike or Roggie or anyone want to make the argument and if they are meanie heads to you or not just isn’t my department. Sorry homie.

Right, more reasons why it's not your department to call them out but you quickly call out the old school dudes.

That's the point. You're just enforcing it.

Gonna answer the honesty question or nah?

I already gave you the honest answer. You just didn't like what the answer was.

[ajalves]

man, we're for sure going to surpass 35 pages this season....Billy will be happy!

[jeheinz72]

How mike or Roggie or anyone want to make the argument and if they are meanie heads to you or not just isn’t my department. Sorry homie.

Right, more reasons why it's not your department to call them out but you quickly call out the old school dudes.

That's the point. You're just enforcing it.

Gonna answer the honesty question or nah?

I already gave you the honest answer. You just didn't like what the answer was.

Nah you punted. That was the diplomatic answer, not the honest one. I want the honest one.

[The_Niddler]

man, we're for sure going to surpass 35 pages this season....Billy will be happy!

[DRiccio21]

Nah. We said honest answers Shel. Do or die time. You gotta put your last dollar on the line, he cheated or he didn’t. Gotta pick what, in your opinion, happened. No half measures.

Why on earth is what he said “not honest”

There is nothing more honest than “I don’t know” if you literally DO NOT KNOW. I said something similar earlier and I stand by it, I don’t know if Billy cheats or Reign cheated or anyone as a commish cheated. I understand it’s certainly possible to gain an edge so I’m not naive to the thought of it but I’m also not willing to judge someone or question their integrity without knowing so I will always give them the benefit of the doubt.

Literally every commish we’ve had in this leagues history has had a run of unparalleled success during their time as commish. You’d be a fool not to at least be open to the thought, but that’s far from just openly being convinced dudes would cheat their friends in a pointless sim video game.

[ajalves]

Literally every commish we’ve had in this leagues history has had a run of unparalleled success during their time as commish. You’d be a fool not to at least be open to the thought, but that’s far from just openly being convinced dudes would cheat their friends in a pointless sim video game.

Look at Dave making sense!!

[GeorgesGoons]

I mean it’s pretty clear that all the old skool forum dudes want us dugouters to quit

Really ?

If I was to guess, knowing all the “old schoolers” I would guess that almost unanimously none of us would want any of you to quit. If we wanted you to quit we’d just kick you out which we have never done and never would do. We’re inclusive to pretty much everyone

Unless you break the 35 point rule

[ajalves]

Not that anyone cares what I think, but for the record, I don't think Corey was cheating, just as I don't think Billy was cheating when he was the best team in the league for 15 seasons, or Reign.....Brownbear on the other hand

I also don't want anyone to leave. Most 'active' owners we've probably ever had is right now

[ajalves]

Unless you break the 35 point rule

George talking about shit from 10 years ago...literally

[Neurotic]

Did everyone one of them trade for a large number of players and then have them all simultaneously blow up into future HoFers while simultaneously developing to potential all within the same window? With not a single one of them stalling? Hell, has ANYONE other than Corey have this happen?

[shel311]

Unless you break the 35 point rule

No exceptions!!!