2074 Season Thread... Always Believe You Can(non)

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shel311 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:08 pm Nothing better than that Cincy dude who would leave guys unprotected intentionally every season then get super mad when people would take the pretty darn good looking prospect from him.

He even admitted he was leaving them off to make room for other guys and didn't have enough 40 man spots but expected no one to take any of his eligible dudes.

That was...something.
there have been and will continue to be weird takes in our league.

that, tho, was the weirdest.

he wasn't mad that it fucked up or his export didnt take, he was literally mad people would draft his prospects to stash.

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GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:07 pm Looks like only 9 people voted for the HOF. 2 people left off Marino, Winey, and Ramirez, but they weren't the same 2 people for each.
I found a way to check who voted but I only can while voting is open. I didn’t count exact number today but it was somewhere between 15-20 so not terrible.
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:07 pm 2 people left off Marino
I needed to see a bit more to put him on that 1st ballot!
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wdoupis wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:26 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:07 pm Looks like only 9 people voted for the HOF. 2 people left off Marino, Winey, and Ramirez, but they weren't the same 2 people for each.
I found a way to check who voted but I only can while voting is open. I didn’t count exact number today but it was somewhere between 15-20 so not terrible.
well with 77.8% vote I'd go with 18 people voted and 14 voted for them 3 (77.77777%)
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I'm still curious why guys were protected by the commish (or whoever ran the sim) when the owners didn't do it
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I'm not that Cincy dude, but I do get annoyed when someone takes a clearly not ready prospect and just craters them with poor dev since they're outgunned in the bigs
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jeheinz72 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm I'm not that Cincy dude, but I do get annoyed when someone takes a clearly not ready prospect and just craters them with poor dev since they're outgunned in the bigs
pretty easy fix. Put them on the 40-man if the owner doesn't want to lose them
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm
jeheinz72 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm I'm not that Cincy dude, but I do get annoyed when someone takes a clearly not ready prospect and just craters them with poor dev since they're outgunned in the bigs
pretty easy fix. Put them on the 40-man if the owner doesn't want to lose them
Oh, I know the fix. I just think it's stupid. It's like "hey lets kill off this prospect so no one has him"
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jeheinz72 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm I'm not that Cincy dude, but I do get annoyed when someone takes a clearly not ready prospect and just craters them with poor dev since they're outgunned in the bigs
Eh, especially if you have a team that isn't very good and we have the added 26th spot, it really behooves you to take the guy if he has solid potential. Maybe it doesn't crater him, maybe it does somewhat but he can still be a ML level player for you down the road that you got for free.

And if you do ruin him, that's still 1 less player your competition has for their team, so other than losing the actual roster spot, I don't think there's much of an argument against it.
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jeheinz72 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:41 pm I just think it's stupid. It's like "hey lets kill off this prospect so no one has him"
It's not a bad strategy, especially if it's a team in your division/league :lol:
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It craters them like 95% of the time though - maybe more. I'm talkin the 20 cur/55 pot guys who aren't even that great when maxed

And that's pussy shit if you're looking at it the second way
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jeheinz72 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:44 pm And that's pussy shit if you're looking at it the second way
Disagree, protect your guy, it's that simple.

You(not literally you) are trying to circumvent the rules of the 40 man to basically get more than 40 guys "protected"

It's legit the same exact argument you're making that the Cincy dude did that got absolutely crushed by everyone in the league because it made no sense.
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:38 pm I'm still curious why guys were protected by the commish (or whoever ran the sim) when the owners didn't do it
they were protected and there was a problem with the exporting last night. no clue, but it took 3 times as long to export and close the game George. i wasnt the only one with that problem as well.
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jeheinz72 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:39 pm I'm not that Cincy dude
After the last couple of posts, I'm gonna need to see proof. :)
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:38 pm I'm still curious why guys were protected by the commish (or whoever ran the sim) when the owners didn't do it
Multiple people couldn’t export last night. Some posted and some wrote me. It said it went thru after a few minutes but it didn’t. We protected guys from those teams
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wdoupis wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:49 pm Multiple people couldn’t export last night. Some posted and some wrote me.
People actually did what we've been telling them to do for like 25 seasons now. Nice!
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wdoupis wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:49 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:38 pm I'm still curious why guys were protected by the commish (or whoever ran the sim) when the owners didn't do it
Multiple people couldn’t export last night. Some posted and some wrote me. It said it went thru after a few minutes but it didn’t. We protected guys from those teams
Sounds good to me (ish).....if there was only other days to protect those guys 8-)

I don't feel sorry for teams that have one bad export the day of Rule 5. I start protecting after rollover, which used to be 5+ or so days before Rule 5 but it's only 2 or 3 now that we sped up the off-season (which I love!)
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shel311 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:46 pm
jeheinz72 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:44 pm And that's pussy shit if you're looking at it the second way
Disagree, protect your guy, it's that simple.

You(not literally you) are trying to circumvent the rules of the 40 man to basically get more than 40 guys "protected"

It's legit the same exact argument you're making that the Cincy dude did that got absolutely crushed by everyone in the league because it made no sense.
The world is going to end when you, me and (assuming) Nick agrees this much on a subject
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So apparently you can lose a guy in the Rule 5 draft who has been on the DL since August of 2073 and still has another month before he can return. Not even an option to put him on the 40 man roster. Congrats to Cookesville for taking Sanders. Of course he would have been protected had I known you could take them from the DL even when I don't have an option to protect him. Just another 21 loophole I guess, right?
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I can't speak for sure about '21 Kslaze, but in the past, we've always been able to protect guys on the DL, many guys, myself included, have forgotten to check the DL and ensure guys are protected.

Are you saying it's a known issue specifically with '21 that you simply can't protect a guy? Did anyone know this before this post?
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