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shel311 wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:23 am
But throwing in the "i've met her numerous times" does make it sound a bit different and maybe not the more positive intent I originally took it to mean.
That's just Trump being Trump in how he talks.

The one thing that makes me wonder, is why are we worried about this bitch in a COVID presser?
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https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1286 ... 76578?s=20

The Hill posts a clip of Cruz discussing COVID. Cuomo pops off, challenging Cruz to come on his show to defend the clip. Cruz buries him when he informs him that it's a CNN cutup of a much longer interview. Gotta love creative editing.
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ReignOnU wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:05 am https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1286 ... 76578?s=20

The Hill posts a clip of Cruz discussing COVID. Cuomo pops off, challenging Cruz to come on his show to defend the clip. Cruz buries him when he informs him that it's a CNN cutup of a much longer interview. Gotta love creative editing.
Ted Cruz seems to be on fire lately.
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"I’m sure you always exaggerate your fifteen seconds into seven minutes."

thats pretty damn good.
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Cuomo sidestepping Cruz's remarks today (like many do around here) and saying he'll give him full time on his show. Cuomo has this thing for begging for guests openly on Twitter, it seems really desperate sometimes. With that said, I actually believe Cuomo would give him the space. He may try some of his word twisting, but you pretty much know what you're getting with Cuomo. He does give his guests the chance to defend.
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Who cares what either say. Ppl obsess over politics. Cruz is shit. Cuomo is shit. Trump is shit. Biden is shit. None of them give a fuck about you and none of them would sit within 100 feet of the people who blindly defend them.
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Cruz pwntz (woof) Cuomo and then loses Texas. Who really wins?
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Another thing that will get swept under the rug by the left

https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/biden-peo ... te+buttons
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Call me crazy, but if you're going to speak out and be a leader of a cause, you should probably try to be knowledgeable on the most basic of details of that cause.

NBA players in their post game press conference aren't really answering questions, only saying to arrest the cops who shot Breonna Taylor. I have no issues with that on the surface. But many of them who speak out and give details don't even have a clue as to what happened.

Lebron is the latest to do it. And his words hold more weight than any other players, but it just seems he says whatever he wants, doesn't matter if it's wrong, and then everyone runs with that.

For the record, I don't know enough of the story to say whether the cops that shot her should be arrested. But I know Lebron is wrong when he's saying the cops picked the wrong house and then this happened and it was just super random that she got shot. That's just not true. The cops were at the correct house. From what I gather, there seemed to be quite a bit of evidence the cops had that she was assisting her ex-boyfriend with his drug dealings, and her house and the ex-boyfriend's house had warrants and cops went in the same night. I see everywhere this notion that the cops went to the wrong house, and that's become "fact" now for some weird reason, we don't care about facts any more.


None of that means she deserves to be shot of course, but when you have to distort the facts and lie, you're basically saying you don't even believe your own story so you gotta make things up to make it believable.


Ok, rant over.
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shel311 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:54 am Call me crazy, but if you're going to speak out and be a leader of a cause, you should probably try to be knowledgeable on the most basic of details of that cause
Unless it’s Hong Kong, then they should just talk out of their ass or nothing else they say matters. Love ya buddy, back out of this god forsaken thread
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Billy thinks saying you support Hong Kong is "talking out of your ass"


Today I learned Billy is a commie 🙂
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Billy doesn’t give a shit about Hong Kong and I imagine 99% of the players don’t either. I hope they all get what makes them happy but my tweets and NBA players tweets won’t be the difference maker
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wdoupis wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:16 am Billy doesn’t give a shit about Hong Kong
And that's fine because Billy doesn't champion himself as the leader of social justice causes and say things like "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" then when China 100% becomes a relevant topic in the NBA and you're asked about Hong Kong, you say nothing. So your'e good to go.


Just think about the last couple of posts. My main premise of my initial post was just saying, hey can we not like about things, and you took exception to that. I have no idea what angle you're going for here if you can't agree that it's not good that the leaders of a cause are either blatantly lying or have little knowledge of things they are speaking about.
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damn billys been living too long in the eastern euro block. starting to warp his perception. just dont become a gypsy or i'll find you and kick your teeth in.
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nick wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:25 am damn billys been living too long in the eastern euro block
I here he's running for President to defeat that one Klitschko brother as President of Ukraine.
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shel311 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:26 am
nick wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:25 am damn billys been living too long in the eastern euro block
I here he's running for President to defeat that one Klitschko brother as President of Ukraine.
He is the mayor of Kiev lol
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A Doupis-Klitschko ticket is going places!!!
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shel311 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:54 am Call me crazy, but if you're going to speak out and be a leader of a cause, you should probably try to be knowledgeable on the most basic of details of that cause.

NBA players in their post game press conference aren't really answering questions, only saying to arrest the cops who shot Breonna Taylor. I have no issues with that on the surface. But many of them who speak out and give details don't even have a clue as to what happened.

Lebron is the latest to do it. And his words hold more weight than any other players, but it just seems he says whatever he wants, doesn't matter if it's wrong, and then everyone runs with that.

For the record, I don't know enough of the story to say whether the cops that shot her should be arrested. But I know Lebron is wrong when he's saying the cops picked the wrong house and then this happened and it was just super random that she got shot. That's just not true. The cops were at the correct house. From what I gather, there seemed to be quite a bit of evidence the cops had that she was assisting her ex-boyfriend with his drug dealings, and her house and the ex-boyfriend's house had warrants and cops went in simultaneously. I see everywhere this notion that the cops went to the wrong house, and that's become "fact" now for some weird reason, we don't care about facts any more.


None of that means she deserves to be shot of course, but when you have to distort the facts and lie, you're basically saying you don't even believe your own story so you gotta make things up to make it believable.


Ok, rant over.

I haven't followed this much. But didn't the cops start shooting after her boyfriend started firing at them? I believe he said he thought people were breaking into the house/apartment (whatever it is).

the whole talk about getting rid of no-knock warrants is just plain ass dumb. Typically no-knock's are done when there is a probability that things could get hairy or the destruction of evidence if they were to announce themselves. Maybe the people that want to get rid of no-knocks want the police to call ahead of time and schedule an appointment for their arrest or search of their property.
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GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:43 am I haven't followed this much. But didn't the cops start shooting after her boyfriend started firing at them? I believe he said he thought people were breaking into the house/apartment (whatever it is).
Cops say he shot first, he says they shot first.

I can't say for sure but I believe there were no body cams being used.
GeorgesGoons wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:43 am the whole talk about getting rid of no-knock warrants is just plain ass dumb. Typically no-knock's are done when there is a probability that things could get hairy or the destruction of evidence if they were to announce themselves. Maybe the people that want to get rid of no-knocks want the police to call ahead of time and schedule an appointment for their arrest or search of their property.
Eh

First, a warrant doesn't automatically mean they'll find shit. Second, someone in plain clothes breaks into your home and doesn't announce yourself, if you have a gun, you're probably going to shoot at them. So when a person does shoot at them, it's hard for me to say that person is wrong for defending themselves from what is essentially unknown intruders. Third, there's been way too many incidents of no knock warrants at actual incorrect addresses where innocent people tried to defend themselves and died. If you can't do it right, they need to scrap it at least until they can get a handle on that.

But yea, body cams for these should be mandatory for all cops so you'd know if they announced themselves or not and probably have a good idea of who shot first.
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