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Why did they shorten it? I know nothing about horse racing but curious why they would need to.
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Man I miss the track. Can’t wait until Grand Prairie opens again here. $1 beers, cheap suites, concert series.
Annual tradition to watch some terrible thoroughbreds and have a great time.
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when Woodbine in Toronto opens i might go. My uncle used to own horses (won a few times) up here back in the day. He still posts shit about horses all the time. I dont know a fucking thing about them.
apparently had 3 winners (i guess up here).. Ambroralph? (iunno), Demicup and Eastern Spencer.
apparently had 3 winners (i guess up here).. Ambroralph? (iunno), Demicup and Eastern Spencer.
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One of the most fun days you can have is a day at the track, some drinks, some bets, and enjoy the scenery.
I miss it in South FL
I miss it in South FL
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I hit a trifecta today to open the day then had 4 of next 5 winners and then the exacta in the Belmont Stakes
Been a while since I had a day like that with the ponies
Been a while since I had a day like that with the ponies

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i badly want to start playing curling cause i feel like maybe 100 total ppl play the sport. what easier path to the Olympics in a winter sport than that? 1 winter to learn the sport and then sky's the limit.
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NICE DAY DAVE! I have never been into horse racing other then going to the track and eating and drinking cheap beer and dogs, putting cash down on a horse with the best name. but with this quarantine, directv channel 602 has been my favorite. ive been betting on horses the last 2 months. my favorite tracks are gulfstream, tampa bay downs, santa anita(nicest one ) and lonestar. i like the long races, hate the 300 yard dashes...lame.
but been enjoying them and probably will do more research on the aspects of horse racing in regards to ready lengths of races and ages of horses and money exchanged stuff
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It is really fun if you like breaking down numbers, trends, and conditions.
You mentioned Gulfstream, that was my home park when I lived back in FL. I wouldn't even recognize it now Dave says with how huge and upgraded it has gotten.
You mentioned Gulfstream, that was my home park when I lived back in FL. I wouldn't even recognize it now Dave says with how huge and upgraded it has gotten.
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Gulfstream in a down pour always makes for interesting race.
we have golden gate fields out here, but had one about 15 minutes from the house called bay meadows back in the day. good place to go on a friday night for dollar dogs and beer and the never ID anyone. so we would go there in high school and get loaded.
we have golden gate fields out here, but had one about 15 minutes from the house called bay meadows back in the day. good place to go on a friday night for dollar dogs and beer and the never ID anyone. so we would go there in high school and get loaded.
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ReignOnU wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:15 am You're not paying the money as much for the bike as you are the program. Peloton has created a crazy following, similar to the initial surge of Crossfit.
If you're looking for that kind of competitive atmosphere (riding in a group setting, virtually), but you don't need the instructor led portion of it, this is what I'd recommend:
- Go to Facebook Marketplace and get yourself either a hybrid bike or road bike. If you're patient, over the course of a week or 2, you'll find a really nice $1000-$1500 bike for less than $700.
- Next, pickup a hydraulic trainer. You swap out the rear spindle for the extended spindle for the trainer and now you've got an elite stationary bike. ($50-$75 on Facebook)
- You'll need a cadence sensor and likely a power meter (about $150).
- Finally, download Zwift. It's about $10 a month and it's the app that offers the virtual training.
Now you've got a really damn good bike and you've got a large portion of the Peloton experience, for half of the price.
Global Cycling Network is a good follow if you want to learn about cycling. Here's a video on Zwift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8feAlwHFs-U
George / JD... so coming back to this. First, the difference between a Peloton or other smart bike (Wahoo Kickr, Saris, etc) is that they sync via Ant+/BT to a device (phone, AppleTV, etc) or they have their own interactive screen. From there, with Peloton for instance, you take part in live scheduled classes or do other training sessions/rides. The software then adjusts your resistance and in some cases angles, while you're completing it. In the case of Zwift, which I mentioned above, you can do live races with people from all over the world and you can do open rides in their virtual worlds. Zwift is as much a 'game' as it is exercise. You have an avatar, you get currency, you can upgrade equipment, you can compete with others, or you can just train. No different than have a MyPlayer in NBA 2K, except instead of input from your PS4 controller, you are using real stats from your power meter through your cycling setup.
So with that said, we'll see how my advice above, about Zwift, plays out. Here's where I'm at:
- I have been searching Facebook Marketplace and I found and purchased a 2014 Ridley X-Fire (full carbon bike, Ultegra setup, weighs nothing) for $600. The current blue book on the bike is $1100, retailed for $3500.
- Instead of the cheap magnetic/liquid trainer with the cadence and speed senors, and power meter, I'm opting for a "smart trainer." I have the cadence and speed sensors on my hybrid bike right now, but 1 thing I didn't consider in the recommended setup is that I'm on a cross bike, which doesn't use a slick tire. I have small knobs to handle gravel/light trail and these don't work great with the other setup. I don't feel like putting together a rear tire for it. I've found a CycleOps Hammer trainer that retails for around $1100, that I'm heading to pickup from the marketplace, for $425.
- I'll have to get a cassette for it that matches what is on my bike currently, so I don't have to waste time adjusting the rear derailleur. That'll cost me at most $50 new (likely to get new because it's faster and longer life if I ride a lot of miles).
As an update to what I've learned... if your only goal was to get up and running on Zwift and you're not concerned about the racing vs others part, you can do this pretty cheap. Again, I highly recommend Facebook Marketplace and being a little patient.
- Used entry level, but quality, bike. Alloy frame. 700c wheels. Shimano Altus, Alivo, Claris or Sora components. Will be $300 or less. It can be hybrid, road, whatever... as long as it fits you properly (look this up!) and it has a slick or near slick rear tire.
- Used liquid or magnetic trainer $50
- Speed / Cadence sensor bundle $70 on amazon, I've seen $40 on marketplace.
Under $400 will get you out in the Zwift world doing about 80% of what is available. You won't have the system setting resistance for you, instead you'll be required to maintain a certain power output, which is calculated by sensor input. I'd recommend a liquid trainer, because it allows you to shift gears and when you shift, the harder you pedal, it creates direct resistance. Mag you have to get off the bike and adjust. You can simulate flats/hills by shifting gears on your bike and maintaining whatever power output they request in the game.
If you have any questions, fire away... I'm still learning, but I've picked up a ton of info lately.
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Thats good stuff reign. In our build Im gonna have an exercise/weight room, this may be something I implement into it
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We were looking at Peleton/NordicTrac's this last weekend and yeah, pretty price prohibitive. Ended up getting a Sole elliptical and yeah we're just going to get a virtual training app to pair with it
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ellipticals are amazing. boring as shit but amazing.
to me the key to those things is long ass cheesy songs. Jesus of Suburbia by Green Day is a eh song but its also like 9 mins so time flies. That, American Pie and 1 other song and you're essentially done 30 mins.
to me the key to those things is long ass cheesy songs. Jesus of Suburbia by Green Day is a eh song but its also like 9 mins so time flies. That, American Pie and 1 other song and you're essentially done 30 mins.
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Reign is making great arguments...that that is all way too much hassle, just pay full price for the Peloton 

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Haha... pretty sure that's why Peloton is working. Consider Peloton the under priced Apple of the smart cycling world. They are easy to use, installed and setup for you, linked directly to their specific system, and $500 to $1000 less than the elite smart bikes coming out from Wahoo and others right now.
My option is the cheap Google alternative. Functionally better (hell, you also have a real bike!), can adapt to a variety of systems, and cheaper. But you have to put in some effort and not be a dummy, lol.
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https://youtu.be/LBXnYW6yX_Q
2min about Zwift.
Also, Peloton is $40 per month, Zwift is $15. That's $300 per year additional.
2min about Zwift.
Also, Peloton is $40 per month, Zwift is $15. That's $300 per year additional.
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Zwift looks cool. wish I was into cycling. Would be fun.
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The "noose" found in Bubba Wallace's garage at Talladega was... not a "noose." It was a rope to pull the garage door down that has been in garage 4 since at least 10/2019.
Tonight Bubba went on CNN to defend the fact that it was a noose.
This is where we're at now. Amazing.
Tonight Bubba went on CNN to defend the fact that it was a noose.
This is where we're at now. Amazing.
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I don't understand how one person saw this, reported to someone, and it eventually took 15 FBI agents 3 or 4 days of investigating to come to this conclusion and not...
1 person sees it reports it to either Wallace's team, Track management, or Nascar, and they come down, see the rope, say "nay that's just a garage pull and has been there for months" and the person who reported says, "Ok, thanks" and the story is over. Like, I legitimately don't understand how it went from something that simple to resolve in just a few minutes to 15 FBI agents and 3 days of investigating.
It's mindbottling.