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Sorry Donald, claiming George Washington statues are next is outlandish...

However... a statue in New York of Teddy Roosevelt is apparently fair game.
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strawman argument time!
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Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump

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nick wrote:Fox's Shep Smith: We couldn't find a Republican willing to come on and defend Trump

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Not really much to say. It's vague. Who did they call? How many? Why did they say they didn't join? What is "a republican?" Senator? Governor? Member of the party? White supremacist? Old ass cracker in a van down by the river?

Maybe try VP Pence who obviously supported him? Ben Carson? No idea here, but pretty sure a right wing loudmouth like Milo or PJW would support him. Another stab in the dark... Laura Ingraham? Tomi Lahren? If those are all too risky, I'm pretty sure he could just walk down the all and talk to Hannity.

Honestly though, it's major media and it's a headline without much detail. Not really looking to learn much more about it because it really doesn't matter. I figure we'll be back on the Russian bandwagon by the weekend.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/p ... atues.html

Trump ‘Sad’ Over Removal of ‘Our Beautiful Statues’

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I can't wait until statue talk is over for good.
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Cnasty wrote:I really do live in a bubble in suburbia and makes me realize how out of touch I am on some things when I see shit like this.

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Wolf Blitzer, lead CNN political analyst just tossing in there that the Barcelona attacks could be copycats of Charlottesville.

This is why I repeatedly talk about biased media and avoiding sensationalism. This is why Trump blasts back at CNN (and others) and why I don't have any issue with that. I think he should be more tactful, but I'm glad that he stands up for himself.

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Also... I made the semi-sarcastic comment that we'd be back to Russia by the weekend. That's not going to happen now. Expect the racism push to continue. The Russia narrative is quickly falling apart as one of Mueller's top guys is out and DWS is in deep shit because her IT staffer and wife got hit with 4 counts. Media will be keeping that shit under the radar until it blows over.
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Only issue I have with Trump blasting biased media is his use of the same to push his agenda. Too much shit on both sides. He seems to blast any poll that shows his approval ratings yet find that one heavily slanted poll to contradict while trashing the others.
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BFiVL wrote:Only issue I have with Trump blasting biased media is his use of the same to push his agenda. Too much shit on both sides. He seems to blast any poll that shows his approval ratings yet find that one heavily slanted poll to contradict while trashing the others.

Yeah, it's ridiculous when I see him quoting a slanted Breitbart article or retweeting something from a heavily slanted republican site. No need for that.
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I guess my biggest obstacle ( and there are quite a few) is the lack of humility. How difficult would it be to say I understand a lot of Americans are unhappy thus far with the lack of action and the job I'm doing but I'm trying. It just seems its black and white. Right or wrong with him and it's not that simple. There is always an angle with him. Still time for him to make good on campaign promises ( unless it's releasing tax returns, investigation of Hillary, Mexico building and paying for a wall, and uncovering the most massive voter fraud in history) :lol:
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BFiVL wrote:I guess my biggest obstacle ( and there are quite a few) is the lack of humility. How difficult would it be to say I understand a lot of Americans are unhappy thus far with the lack of action and the job I'm doing but I'm trying. It just seems its black and white. Right or wrong with him and it's not that simple. There is always an angle with him. Still time for him to make good on campaign promises ( unless it's releasing tax returns, investigation of Hillary, Mexico building and paying for a wall, and uncovering the most massive voter fraud in history) :lol:

He's done quite a bit considering he's been cockblocked on getting people appointed and has to fight an internal battle with RINOs on things. I don't think the tax returns ever happen. I do think the Clinton's will be investigated, but it won't happen until after this special counsel is done. I believe this counsel has a much wider agenda than what is being said. I'm pretty sure the wall gets built or at least started. I'm also sure Mexico isn't directly paying for it. Will he milk their economy in some other way and claim that's the payment? Probably. I think most people with common sense realized that this was going to take months just to decide the setup. As for the voter fraud... that's happening all over the place.

There have been 3 major areas being hammered throughout the country... voter fraud, illegal immigrants and human trafficking. Specifically the voter fraud piece is going to take time to unwind, but I see articles nearly every day on it. In just quantity, Trump has done about 3x more than Bush or Clinton in his first 6 months, while being behind Obama. A large part of Obama's first 6 months was dealing with recession related items which required a lot of additional work.

A lot of what he does is never actually talked about. Part of that is the media is heavily focused on the negative aspects or cool headlines. I think the other part of it is Trump is actually a pretty slick fella. There's a bit of a trend with him doing something that may raise a stir from a political standpoint and with him riling up the media. I do think he's using the media to his advantage and it goes fairly unnoticed.
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Some food for thought as it relates to the "Alt Left." It's just as real as the "Alt Right." In fact, it was really pushed by the members of the DNC leading up to and during the primaries.

Antifa, while considered a loosely organized group, typically has very large cells funded by Media Matters. If you're not familiar with Media Matters, just assume that it's directly funded by George Soros. If you don't know who George Soros is, or what is agenda is, I'd highly recommend figuring that out.

As it relates to events of the last week. Antifa was the major opposing force in VA. Debate is there on if they were true members or paid... or some kind of split. There were advertisements in Craigslist in the city, 2 weeks prior to the event offering $25 per hour. All kinds of wild theories here, but this is a typical Soros move.

The group that downed the statue in Durham was part of an organized group known as the World Workers Party. This is a socialist / communist party.

The World Workers Party then posted this as their demand regarding the arrests of those members:
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This same party fully supports both the North Korean government and the Venezuelan government. (images directly from their site)
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Since these events there have been calls to remove numerous other confederate monuments and even other statues that are unrelated, because they "offended" someone. This is a slippery slope. Will there be more clashes at monuments? If so, how will they be handled? Any time "Alt-Right" and "Alt-Left" show up in the same place, it's going to get ugly.
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ReignOnU wrote:
BFiVL wrote:I guess my biggest obstacle ( and there are quite a few) is the lack of humility. How difficult would it be to say I understand a lot of Americans are unhappy thus far with the lack of action and the job I'm doing but I'm trying. It just seems its black and white. Right or wrong with him and it's not that simple. There is always an angle with him. Still time for him to make good on campaign promises ( unless it's releasing tax returns, investigation of Hillary, Mexico building and paying for a wall, and uncovering the most massive voter fraud in history) :lol:

He's done quite a bit considering he's been cockblocked on getting people appointed and has to fight an internal battle with RINOs on things. I don't think the tax returns ever happen. I do think the Clinton's will be investigated, but it won't happen until after this special counsel is done. I believe this counsel has a much wider agenda than what is being said. I'm pretty sure the wall gets built or at least started. I'm also sure Mexico isn't directly paying for it. Will he milk their economy in some other way and claim that's the payment? Probably. I think most people with common sense realized that this was going to take months just to decide the setup. As for the voter fraud... that's happening all over the place.

There have been 3 major areas being hammered throughout the country... voter fraud, illegal immigrants and human trafficking. Specifically the voter fraud piece is going to take time to unwind, but I see articles nearly every day on it. In just quantity, Trump has done about 3x more than Bush or Clinton in his first 6 months, while being behind Obama. A large part of Obama's first 6 months was dealing with recession related items which required a lot of additional work.

A lot of what he does is never actually talked about. Part of that is the media is heavily focused on the negative aspects or cool headlines. I think the other part of it is Trump is actually a pretty slick fella. There's a bit of a trend with him doing something that may raise a stir from a political standpoint and with him riling up the media. I do think he's using the media to his advantage and it goes fairly unnoticed.
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Crowes wrote:
ReignOnU wrote:
BFiVL wrote:I guess my biggest obstacle ( and there are quite a few) is the lack of humility. How difficult would it be to say I understand a lot of Americans are unhappy thus far with the lack of action and the job I'm doing but I'm trying. It just seems its black and white. Right or wrong with him and it's not that simple. There is always an angle with him. Still time for him to make good on campaign promises ( unless it's releasing tax returns, investigation of Hillary, Mexico building and paying for a wall, and uncovering the most massive voter fraud in history) :lol:

He's done quite a bit considering he's been cockblocked on getting people appointed and has to fight an internal battle with RINOs on things. I don't think the tax returns ever happen. I do think the Clinton's will be investigated, but it won't happen until after this special counsel is done. I believe this counsel has a much wider agenda than what is being said. I'm pretty sure the wall gets built or at least started. I'm also sure Mexico isn't directly paying for it. Will he milk their economy in some other way and claim that's the payment? Probably. I think most people with common sense realized that this was going to take months just to decide the setup. As for the voter fraud... that's happening all over the place.

There have been 3 major areas being hammered throughout the country... voter fraud, illegal immigrants and human trafficking. Specifically the voter fraud piece is going to take time to unwind, but I see articles nearly every day on it. In just quantity, Trump has done about 3x more than Bush or Clinton in his first 6 months, while being behind Obama. A large part of Obama's first 6 months was dealing with recession related items which required a lot of additional work.

A lot of what he does is never actually talked about. Part of that is the media is heavily focused on the negative aspects or cool headlines. I think the other part of it is Trump is actually a pretty slick fella. There's a bit of a trend with him doing something that may raise a stir from a political standpoint and with him riling up the media. I do think he's using the media to his advantage and it goes fairly unnoticed.
Please share all these articles that show voter fraud is running rampant in our country.
Agree. Is there a margin of error. I'm sure but 3 million plus? No way
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BFiVL wrote:
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BFiVL wrote:I guess my biggest obstacle ( and there are quite a few) is the lack of humility. How difficult would it be to say I understand a lot of Americans are unhappy thus far with the lack of action and the job I'm doing but I'm trying. It just seems its black and white. Right or wrong with him and it's not that simple. There is always an angle with him. Still time for him to make good on campaign promises ( unless it's releasing tax returns, investigation of Hillary, Mexico building and paying for a wall, and uncovering the most massive voter fraud in history) :lol:

He's done quite a bit considering he's been cockblocked on getting people appointed and has to fight an internal battle with RINOs on things. I don't think the tax returns ever happen. I do think the Clinton's will be investigated, but it won't happen until after this special counsel is done. I believe this counsel has a much wider agenda than what is being said. I'm pretty sure the wall gets built or at least started. I'm also sure Mexico isn't directly paying for it. Will he milk their economy in some other way and claim that's the payment? Probably. I think most people with common sense realized that this was going to take months just to decide the setup. As for the voter fraud... that's happening all over the place.

There have been 3 major areas being hammered throughout the country... voter fraud, illegal immigrants and human trafficking. Specifically the voter fraud piece is going to take time to unwind, but I see articles nearly every day on it. In just quantity, Trump has done about 3x more than Bush or Clinton in his first 6 months, while being behind Obama. A large part of Obama's first 6 months was dealing with recession related items which required a lot of additional work.

A lot of what he does is never actually talked about. Part of that is the media is heavily focused on the negative aspects or cool headlines. I think the other part of it is Trump is actually a pretty slick fella. There's a bit of a trend with him doing something that may raise a stir from a political standpoint and with him riling up the media. I do think he's using the media to his advantage and it goes fairly unnoticed.
Please share all these articles that show voter fraud is running rampant in our country.
Agree. Is there a margin of error. I'm sure but 3 million plus? No way
Even if it was 3M it wouldn't change the outcome of any national race. Most states you already can pencil in which way they are voting.

But my guess would be less than 30,000 votes in voter fraud
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