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Nothing that was classified. Memos. You'd have to watch to understand the importance.

Basically, he was trying to get stuff generated without doing it himself, directly.

To be completely fair, I actually believe Comey is a pretty stand up guy. I do think Donald was using his leverage to try to get him to back off of Flynn. Donald is a businessman and he conducts his business that way, which really isn't what is considering politically correct. With that said, he did it in such a way as to not implicate himself.

Donald didn't become Donald and do what he's done over the years by being an idiot, as much as people want to paint him that way (or orange). Comey coming in front of this committee wasn't an accident. There's also a reason Trump encouraged the Russian investigation to continue. Every narrative that comes up gets busted. It's routine at this point. Media should stick to covfefe.
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Crowes wrote:
shel311 wrote:- Was there any new or big new details we learned yesterday?

- What is the prevailing thought(not your individual view) on this, good or bad for Trump?
Nothing really Trump related that was new. Just got someone under oath saying Russia was undeniably involved in the election. Trump asked Comey to make the Flynn investagation go away but said it in a way that probably wouldn't pass the legal standard of obstruction of justice.

Lynch asked Comey to call the Hillary email thing a "matter" instead of a " investigation".

Good for Trump in the short term. Still lots of smoke but no fire yet for anything illegal just horrible looking politically.

In long term it gave the special prosecuter more rabbit holes to go in and see what turns up is what I've gathered from it all.
He also said the Russians didn't factor into the outcome of the election as well
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GeorgesGoons wrote:
Crowes wrote:
shel311 wrote:- Was there any new or big new details we learned yesterday?

- What is the prevailing thought(not your individual view) on this, good or bad for Trump?
Nothing really Trump related that was new. Just got someone under oath saying Russia was undeniably involved in the election. Trump asked Comey to make the Flynn investagation go away but said it in a way that probably wouldn't pass the legal standard of obstruction of justice.

Lynch asked Comey to call the Hillary email thing a "matter" instead of a " investigation".

Good for Trump in the short term. Still lots of smoke but no fire yet for anything illegal just horrible looking politically.

In long term it gave the special prosecuter more rabbit holes to go in and see what turns up is what I've gathered from it all.
He also said the Russians didn't factor into the outcome of the election as well
I saw where he said russia didn't directly alter ballots but taking that to mean he said they didn't factor into the outcome might be a stretch. If that is what you were para phrasing. Maybe i missed the quote ur referring to.
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Crowes wrote:
GeorgesGoons wrote:
Crowes wrote:
shel311 wrote:- Was there any new or big new details we learned yesterday?

- What is the prevailing thought(not your individual view) on this, good or bad for Trump?
Nothing really Trump related that was new. Just got someone under oath saying Russia was undeniably involved in the election. Trump asked Comey to make the Flynn investagation go away but said it in a way that probably wouldn't pass the legal standard of obstruction of justice.

Lynch asked Comey to call the Hillary email thing a "matter" instead of a " investigation".

Good for Trump in the short term. Still lots of smoke but no fire yet for anything illegal just horrible looking politically.

In long term it gave the special prosecuter more rabbit holes to go in and see what turns up is what I've gathered from it all.
He also said the Russians didn't factor into the outcome of the election as well
I saw where he said russia didn't directly alter ballots but taking that to mean he said they didn't factor into the outcome might be a stretch. If that is what you were para phrasing. Maybe i missed the quote ur referring to.
The only way to truly alter an outcome is to change D to R. He also said that it wasn't just the DNC that was being exploited, Republicans we're exploited as well.
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Ok naive as all get out but ok :lol:

I'm pretty sure it came out a while back that both were hacked but only one was released.......
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if anything else, US should be worried that Russia is trying to get involved.
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I'll save you some time so you don't have to watch the "news" tonight... it was a white male and we need gun control.
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Trump sells Qatar $12 Billion of U.S. Weapons days after accusing it of funding Terrorism
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nick wrote:Trump sells Qatar $12 Billion of U.S. Weapons days after accusing it of funding Terrorism

Yup, looks like the "news" headlines.

#1 - Trump had nothing to do with the sale, it was through the Pentagon.
#2 - Initial terms brokered in Nov 2016 under Obama.
#3 - U.S. Weapons = F15 jets
#4 - Trump called for them to take action against ISIS
#5 - Qatar is about 25% smaller than Connecticut, we have over 10k soldiers there and a working relationship with them

But screw all of that, it's easier to make wild clickbait titles like CBS "news" did.
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We are trying to get a site in Qatar. That would be an interesting site to go to. We'd work directly with Qatar soldiers
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GeorgesGoons wrote:We are trying to get a site in Qatar. That would be an interesting site to go to. We'd work directly with Qatar soldiers

You are fake news. :lol: :D
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GeorgesGoons wrote:We are trying to get a site in Qatar. That would be an interesting site to go to. We'd work directly with Qatar soldiers

CBS headline:
Trump directly providing support for ISIS.
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After reading the article, seems like a lot of relevant information was left off of that tweet.

1) No mention of a plant actually being built in China.
2) Ford is making room at its Michigan plant to build larger more profitable vehicles.
3) No jobs will be lost at the Michigan plant, unlike when the Mexico plant was going to be built.
4) Ford is investing $900M into its Kentucky plant, which will protect over 1000 employees.
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Trump's fault!!!!
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Wasted Memory wrote:After reading the article, seems like a lot of relevant information was left off of that tweet.

1) No mention of a plant actually being built in China.
2) Ford is making room at its Michigan plant to build larger more profitable vehicles.
3) No jobs will be lost at the Michigan plant, unlike when the Mexico plant was going to be built.
4) Ford is investing $900M into its Kentucky plant, which will protect over 1000 employees.
I'm gonna withhold judgement until Crowes comes in here and drops some truth on us.
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Seeitsaveit13 wrote:
Wasted Memory wrote:After reading the article, seems like a lot of relevant information was left off of that tweet.

1) No mention of a plant actually being built in China.
2) Ford is making room at its Michigan plant to build larger more profitable vehicles.
3) No jobs will be lost at the Michigan plant, unlike when the Mexico plant was going to be built.
4) Ford is investing $900M into its Kentucky plant, which will protect over 1000 employees.
I'm gonna withhold judgement until Crowes comes in here and drops some truth on us.
I dunno why I have more truth then anyone else....... But while this is good in the short term, long term the production of the larger vehicles in the US is a bubble that will bust when gas prices go back up and then those jobs will be out the door and ford will still be importing cars from the same low wage counties which doesn't help us out very much.
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Most of the news i see points to the big three making all the same mistakes they made before investing big is gas gusslers raking in the money now begging to be saved later.
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http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-w ... 03969.html

Can't make this stuff up...

(Regarding the shooting at the baseball field)
"At this point in the investigation, it appears more spontaneous," Slater said.

Hodgkinson had a piece of paper with the names of six members of Congress written on it, Slater said, but the note lacked any further context and there was no evidence from his computer, phone or other belongings that indicated he planned to target those officials.
In April, Hogkinson made the tourist rounds in Washington, visiting monuments, museums, the U.S. Capitol and the Dirksen Senate Office Building and taking pictures, the FBI said. He also took pictures of the baseball field where he would later fire more than 60 shots.

"The FBI does not believe that these photographs represented surveillance of intended targets," the FBI said in a statement.
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You can pick any of 100 sources on this one...
Jon Ossoff lost the House race in Georgia’s 6th Congressional District despite receiving nearly three-quarters of $1 million from the Planned Parenthood Action Fund.

With $734,000 in campaign contributions, the abortion giant was the second-biggest spender on the Democratic side of the ledger — only trailing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which poured $4.9 million into the race.
So... government helps to fund Planned Parenthood and Planned Parenthood can reinvest in their party of choice? Seems legit.
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