Winter Meetings Topic - Financial Restrictions

[Wasted Memory]

Lots of debate in the agreed trade blocks but no one seems to want to post anything up. I'll get that started for us.

Link so you can catch up on the debate if you haven't.


My proposal:

Set a percentage that a GM is allowed to go above and beyond what the financial budget is set at by the team owner. Once we've decided yea or nay on that then we can proceed with determining what that percentage would be. I'd probably say 25%, but that can be argued over later.


I have set this to allow you to change your vote as well as I'm sure arguments will convince people to change minds on an hourly basis

[Cnasty]

Thanks Pete

[GeorgesGoons]

I just posted one myself and then saw you posted one at the same time. Funny thing is, we posted the same exact thing. Just a yea or nay vote

[Wasted Memory]

Not even any debates, just voting. Easy peasy!

[Cnasty]

With this vote I would also venture to say we put a hold on trades until we figure out where we are going.

[wdoupis]

Since this is very clearly going to be a yes let's start talking about how we implement it and how long people have to be in compliance. I have never been flush with cash so this could be wrong but we only allow 50 mil cash on hand and that cash is used to offset money you may lose amongst other things. Would it work if we just say you can not exceed your budget by more than 50 million at any time?

[nick]

heres how budgets look (minus 2 teams lol) at 5%, 10% etc.

Spoiler!

and i think if youre over the number, the only trades u can do is if you lose salary to try and get under.

[nick]

and btw, budgets are so flexible. all you gotta do is win. If people think trading for a lot of extra $$ makes them competitive. no. winning does. Like 3 seasons ago my budget was 3rd last and now it's 11th. All I've done is made sure my books arent messed and won more than i lost and it goes up.

[Wasted Memory]

If it passes, I'm more in favor of percentages than cash. Plus, since that available cash is used in trades I would think it would make it a tad more difficult to keep up with.

[Cnasty]

I'm torn beteeen 10 and 20% over being the max.

[shel311]

I voted against it, too many variables for it be a good idea imo.

In real life, I'm sure many owner would be willing to go over budget if they are protecting a hefty season profit.

[DRWebs]

25%

[Wasted Memory]

An owner would I'm sure. But to what extent? 50%? You can always make the argument for a higher percentage.

[wdoupis]

25% seems reasonable. Can't get in too big a hole and gives you a chance to acquire a guy or two that can put you over the top

[nick]

the only problem is the financial numbers are not right. I have 100+ mil to spend on FAs but if you go by expenses - current budget i only have 34 mil to spend.

[wdoupis]

the only problem is the financial numbers are not right. I have 100+ mil to spend on FAs but if you go by expenses - current budget i only have 34 mil to spend.

Those are the things that are tricky. It's tough so say, the league has been wildly successful for this many seasons. Perhaps we should just leave it as is and not overreact to one rare situation

[shel311]

the only problem is the financial numbers are not right. I have 100+ mil to spend on FAs but if you go by expenses - current budget i only have 34 mil to spend.

Bingo. It renders that $50 mil cash pretty useless.

I don't like it.

[nick]

the only problem is the financial numbers are not right. I have 100+ mil to spend on FAs but if you go by expenses - current budget i only have 34 mil to spend.

Those are the things that are tricky. It's tough so say, the league has been wildly successful for this many seasons. Perhaps we should just leave it as is and not overreact to one rare situation

no were def in the right to overreact. The fact for 35 seasons we had 30 owners who ran things normal and never went this far. Then, the 1st season he does it, we call him out, and so he decides its okay to do it a 2nd season? Cmon man. Its a fucking SIM baseball league, use some common sense and try to not cheat. First season is fine, second season on youre bending rules. Fucking lame.

and the people of the league are speaking based on the votes so clearly this is something no one except like 2-3 people, 1 of them (being a person unloading 95m in a deal), likes..

[Wasted Memory]

the only problem is the financial numbers are not right. I have 100+ mil to spend on FAs but if you go by expenses - current budget i only have 34 mil to spend.

heres how budgets look (minus 2 teams lol) at 5%, 10% etc.

Spoiler!

and i think if youre over the number, the only trades u can do is if you lose salary to try and get under.

Then where did these numbers come from?

[Cnasty]

If we want to make to very easy, let me determine if deals are pushing boundaries to unrealistic expectations and to the detriment of the league.

This is very rare and we normally are pretty solid on deals that I intervene when needed and go from there.