Politics and stuff

[dakshdar]

Wasn't snarky, it's an honest question, what is going to happen and how will things look 4 years from now? You didn't really answer, fwiw.

We're going to spend $15 billion on a wall that will have questionable benefit and uncertainty on where the reimbursement will really come from.

The rich will be richer, the poor will be poorer, the gap between middle class and upper class will continue to increase. Though this would very likely be true no matter who were president.

Tuition costs will increase another 10%, healthcare costs will likely rise as well while a "new" system tries to find its way.

Funding and programs for those at the "fringes" of society (homeless, poor, non-traditional lifestyles) will very likely be tightened or cut off completely if conservative politicians in power truly get what they want.

The world view will shift somewhat from the US being a country of great opportunity and potential for an immigrant to a country that is doing everything it can to internalize and pull away from the world scene.

Trump will tweet over 1000 inflammatory statements and leave office on his way to profiting more from a Presidential term than any individual ever.

[DRiccio21]

no matter what your stance is, pain leads to progress and right always triumphs over wrong.

over time its a good thing if he's doing 'bad' stuff. i'm not saying he is or isn't. but i trust in humanity that we move in the right direction always.

[nick]

history has been pretty much war and not much positivity or else there wouldnt be financial gaps we have today (for example). but thats just my opinion.

[shel311]

and not much positivity

Dave rant in 3...2...1...

[DRiccio21]

we're at the absolute highest point in just about every metric possible in human existence.

the least amount of poverty in human existence, the least amount of violence, the least amount of countries under rule of dictatorship, longest life spans, most civilized % of global population etc. I guess you could make a case the environment isn't at its peak level, but other than that the world is just about the best its ever been.

you can point to gaps in wealth and i can point to opportunities. there has never been a better opportunity for a human to succeed than right now. you can literally get a Harvard education living in the middle of Africa if you have an internet connection. if you want to be great in US/Canada, you can do it. as long as the opportunities are there for people to succeed, i really don't have energy for those who complain about why they can't. when/if the opportunities to succeed change, my tone will change. i'm not saying its even for everyone, but it will never be even for everyone.

[ReignOnU]

we're at the absolute highest point in just about every metric possible in human existence.

the least amount of poverty in human existence, the least amount of violence, the least amount of countries under rule of dictatorship, longest life spans, most civilized % of global population etc. I guess you could make a case the environment isn't at its peak level, but other than that the world is just about the best its ever been.

you can point to gaps in wealth and i can point to opportunities. there has never been a better opportunity for a human to succeed than right now. you can literally get a Harvard education living in the middle of Africa if you have an internet connection. if you want to be great in US/Canada, you can do it. as long as the opportunities are there for people to succeed, i really don't have energy for those who complain about why they can't. when/if the opportunities to succeed change, my tone will change. i'm not saying its even for everyone, but it will never be even for everyone.

TLDR: Nick, stop being a Can'tadian.

[LetsGoPeay]

Ok, I really don't care about politics much and don't want to jump on the Trump Hater Bandwagon, but from what I've read this guy is a complete buffoon. I know that should be in the not-so-newsworthy thread but.... seriously. From what I've read he has told the Mexican president that he'll send in the military if they don't handle the "bad hombres" down there, he insulted the Australian president and hung up on him, and now he's threatening to defund UC Berkeley if they don't get their protests under control? I don't want to sound like our chemically augmented Canadian brother but this guy is going to cause real problems if someone doesn't get him under control.

I really thought he'd tone it down once he got in office and adjusted to the demands of the job. It doesn't look like that's going to happen.

[DRWebs]

You forgot the bit about him telling all of them about his yuuugge presidential victory and crowd sizes

Trump Foreign Leader Phone Calls

[dakshdar]

Australia is seen as such a trusted ally that it is one of only four countries that the United States includes in the “Five Eyes” arrangement for cooperation on espionage matters. Members share extensively what their intelligence services gather and generally refrain from spying on one another.

This is what I think he just doesn't have a clue about. The US-Australia relationship is critical to us more than it is to them. If you read up about Australia and our relationship with them, you'll inevitably find reference to Alice Springs and the joint Australian-US satellite tracking station there. There are 700 American's employed there and (since families relocate there) over 2000 US citizens there. If you think about anything with satellite tracking, you'd come to the conclusion that it is critical we have stations located outside our hemisphere/on the opposite side of the world.

So he thinks he doesn't need to do anything to work with them and can treat them this way, when in fact he's threatening a relationship that is fundamental to the very security and protection he thinks he's upholding by opposing "illegal immigrants" (which is clearly not the right term he should have tweeted as a refugee is not one) coming from Australia.

[nick]

The "Five Eyes" (FVEY) refer to an alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States.

yessss

[shel311]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02 ... ful-sight/

[dakshdar]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02 ... ful-sight/

The Berkeley stuff is a little bit of a strange story.

The students at Berkeley that were protesting the speech were non-violent and were not interrupting or preventing the speech from occurring. The violence came from an Anarchist group that has done this several times before in the area.

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/20 ... lden-bears

[nick]

paid protesters

[DRWebs]

ANARCHY!!!

[GeorgesGoons]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02 ... ful-sight/

The Berkeley stuff is a little bit of a strange story.

The students at Berkeley that were protesting the speech were non-violent and were not interrupting or preventing the speech from occurring. The violence came from an Anarchist group that has done this several times before in the area.

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/20 ... lden-bears

Not advocating violence but this shit stops as soon as a couple get shot when they pick on the wrong person or ran over when they start beating on a vehicle and threatening their safety. I'll throw Jughead in 4Lo and let the 37" tires do the talking if that happens to me with my family in it.. Attacking people just because they voted for Trump is not the way to get your voice heard.

[shel311]

but this shit stops as soon as a couple get shot when they pick on the wrong person or ran over

Plenty of people have been ran over since they made the dumb decision to start blocking roads, but it doesn't seem to stop them as they continue to make that dumb decision to keep trying to block roads.

[BFiVL]

Prayers for Bowling Green

[dakshdar]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02 ... ful-sight/

The Berkeley stuff is a little bit of a strange story.

The students at Berkeley that were protesting the speech were non-violent and were not interrupting or preventing the speech from occurring. The violence came from an Anarchist group that has done this several times before in the area.

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/20 ... lden-bears

Not advocating violence but this shit stops as soon as a couple get shot when they pick on the wrong person or ran over when they start beating on a vehicle and threatening their safety. I'll throw Jughead in 4Lo and let the 37" tires do the talking if that happens to me with my family in it.. Attacking people just because they voted for Trump is not the way to get your voice heard.

I would have no qualms with you running over some anarchists that are only present to incite violence and vitriol.

The main point was Trump got all tweety about federally defunding Cal Berkeley without knowing (or paying attention) to the fact that the students weren't the ones preventing the speech and that the school cancelled the speech out of safety concerns for the students when the anarchists got involved.

[DRWebs]

Prayers for Bowling Green

[GeorgesGoons]

Prayers for Bowling Green

I hate not having any TV.

I don't get this at all