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2033 Official Hall of Fame Ballot

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If you haven't seen my JAWS thread, you should check it out. Pretty cool comparison tool to real-life MLB players and you can also see where they rank against their own peers. I know I will weigh these heavily when deciding.

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I don't put a deadline on getting your votes in, hopefully within a week, but please take the time to go through the candidates and make an informed vote by whatever your process is.

This year's ballot consists of twenty-five players. Eighteen carryovers and seven new nominees.

Voting process and rules are as follows..

--You can PM me your ballot or post it here in this thread. Forum only allows for 10 poll options. Plus no way to track.
--No waiting period after retirement
--75% of all votes received will get a player in. 5% to carry over to next election, 10 seasons max.
--You can vote for zero to ten players, but please vote, even if it's a blank ballot.
--No new teams this year, we should have 30 votes.


The Ballot...

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Blacked-out = Not on ballot, Greyed-Out includes that year's results.

The Breakdown..

Alex Amaya, SS New York
Amaya started playing as a teenager and finished in his forties. Amazing longevity for our league and a SS to boot. He was a 10-time All-Star, holds numerous career records, won the MVP once, won 2 championships, and won 4 Gold Gloves.
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Keisuke Ando, LF/RF New York
Smacked 241 career homers with an OBP of nearly .400 in just over 1300 career NDL games. Was selected to 3 All-Star games. His time in NPB & USBL was nearly unprecedented. In his four full seasons there between from 2011-2014, he batted .363 with an OBP of .510. Belted 203 HR's and drove in 555 runs while amassing a WAR of 45.3 in just four seasons.
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Julio Burgos, LF/DH/RF Cincinnati (SoCal)
Premier power hitter whose prime years from 2019-2024 would probably match anyone's high 6 year span. Fielded his position well, winning one H&K and although didn't steal often, 56 SB, was successful when doing so at a 74% clip. He was selected to 5 All-Star games. won a HOTY in 2020 despite playing for 3 different teams that year and he wears two championship rings on his hands.
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Steve Campbell, 2B/3B Port Orange
Slick-fielding singles-hitting base-stealing machine on some elite Hawks' teams and later with the Windstorm as well. Ranks 10th all-time in hits(3rd all-time in singles) while batting .307 for his career. Won 3 Gold Gloves and could steal a base, ranking #12 in stolen bases with 377 of them.
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Jim Cole, RF/DH Winterfell (Las Vegas)
Dingo has long been one of the overlooked superstars of the league. He was a model of consistency throughout his career, hitting over 20 HR's a season 12 times, but never over 30. His final numbers rank him in the Top 10 in runs, hits, OBP, HR, RBI, BB, and VORP. He was a ROTY in 2014 and was selected to 5 All-Star games.
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Lawrence Franks, 1B/3B/DH Omaha (Sioux City)
Another hitting machine makes the ballot. Franks was a career .316 hitter, good for 10th all-time, and a doubles factory over his career. Hit over 40 doubles 8 times in his career despite never playing more than 143 games in a season. Final tally of 514 is good for 6th all-time and he played in at least 500 games fewer than those in front of him on that list.
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Nolan Gibbons, 3B/SS Philadelphia
His 2017 season , with Philadelphia winning the crown that season, is widely regarded by both VORP and WAR standards to be the best season put together by anyone not named Rodriguez or Cruz. He did this after winning ROTY in 2016 with Sheltown. Leading the way to "Gibbons'd" being the second most coined term in trade talk threads behind "NGR'd". Only player in NDLB history to win a Championship, HOTY, ROTY, H&K, and be selected to All-Star Game(5 times). Career dwindled after leaving Philly, but a special player in NDLB history.
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Paul Holt, 1B/DH Texas
Tracer was very good, but for a short time. Broke in with a ROTY award in 2023 and is already out of the league. His cumulative numbers may not amaze you, but his 162-game averages are outstanding. HE was an RBI machine, driving in 100+ 6 times and just missing 2 other times. He also hit 30+ HR's 7 times in his 8 full seasons, hitting 28 in the only year he missed.
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Colton Long, LF Port Orange
To me, Long is our version of Bernie Williams. Never really excelled at anything besides being consistently very good. Would never be near the top of leaderboards, but year in and year out, there he was at 8, 9, or 10. Won more titles (5) than All-Stars (2). Top 25 in career runs, BB's, WAR and VORP and ranks 11th in SB's.
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Jose Lopez, SS/2B Boston (NorCal)
The Hall of Fame loves HR's, RBI's and middle infielders. Lopez is all 3. Seventh in career HR's, twelfth in RBI's, all while playing the middle infield. He did not hit for average, or do anything else exceptionally well, but nearly 400 HR's and over 1200 RBi's from those positions is rare. Won a World Series in 2015 with NorCal, was selected to 2 All-Star games, and won a Gold Glove.
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Pablo Lopez, DH/1B Cleveland (Ohio/Hawaii/Carolina)
Quick.. name me the 3 players in NDLB history with 2000+ hits, 300+ HR's, a .300 or better batting average and a slugging percentage over .500.. Rodriguez and Cruz would be on all answers, but the third guy.. Amaya-NO, Barron-NO, Gaudreau-NO. The answer is Pablo Lopez. Lopez gets lost in the shuffle while playing his career moving around from Carolina to Hawaii to Ohio to Cleveland and being in Cruz's shadow in the AL, but this guy tore the cover off the ball for a long time. 5 time All-Star and did win a H&K despite playing DH for most of his career.
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Rafael Medine, C Boston (NorCal)
Power-hitting catcher banged out 251 career HR's from the backstop position. What sets him apart from his main rivals of his era? Medine won 5 Gold Gloves while behind the plate! No one else has won more than 2.
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Jonathan Nash, SS/2B Philadelphia
Career .295 hitter with a JAWS of 42.7. He was a two-time Gold Glove winner while amassing over 1700 career hits.
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Jorge Ramos, CF San Antonio (Hartford)
Another new nominee that balanced good offense with great defense. Ramos often remembered for being the #4 guy in Hartford behind Cruz, Wu, and Alvarez. His 7yr peak for WAR is in elite category. When it comes to defensive outfielders in our league's history, conversation often starts and ends between Marty Crow and Ramos. Ramos won 4 Gold Gloves, arguably should have had 5. And this was after winning 5 in High School and the minors.
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Ramon Ruiz, RF Port Orange
5-time All-Star and 2-time champion broke into the bigs in a big way, winning rookie of the year in 2015 after being waived by Sheltown. Had a memorable run in Port Orange before being traded to Louisville in a much hyped trade. Great combination of power and average. Hit 324 HR's and drove in 1082 runs in , a relatively few, 1371 games. Amazingly, did not strike out often. Averaged only 31 K's per 162 games.
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Joe Vance, CF/RF Steel City
Yet another player that will see his cumulative numbers pale in comparison with some, but Vance won 3 straight MVP's from 2022-2024 and was then out of the majors by the turn of the decade.
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Zheng-Xin Wu, RF/DH San Antonio (Hartford)
The man who almost broke the NDLB. .366 career average and a .458 career OBP are off the charts. Ranks 14th in VORP and 29th in WAR despite playing in only 995 games. Won ROTY in 2019 while batting .415, but playing in only 99 games. Followed that up with a .416/94-game campaign in 2020. The 6-time All-Star's health was a major concern and downfall as he played in 130+ games just 3 times in his career.
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Pierre-Antoine Bourassa, SP Philadelphia
PAB as he became affectionately known on the forums will now face the test to see if he is truly elite. Nearly 200 wins and a sub-3.50 ERA might do the trick. He was selected to 4 All-Star games and won 2 rings in his career. He ranks 13th in career VORP and 16th in WAR. Had 1 No-Hitter in his career.
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Tony Foster, RP San Antonio (Hartford)
Foster played 15 seasons in the NDL. Won the Seaver award in 2012 with Carolina before signing with Hartford as a free agent. Spent a decade in hitter-friendly Hartford and was a rock there. Allowed just 1 run on a HR in 18 career post-season appearances.
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Melvin Lewis, SP Toronto
I always pictured Lewis as a smooth throwing southpaw a la Jimmy Key. The 2-time All-Star won double-digit games 11 times in his career and finished his career Top 10 in both CG's and Shutouts.
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Morgan Morrissey, RP Cleveland (Ohio/Hawaii/Carolina)
Morrssey will be my favorite nominee to track this season. He was relief pitcher, so he is facing a huge obstacle there. But when you delve into the numbers, there are some incredible stats. His 108 wins as RP rank 81st overall. A RP with 1720 career K's! That ranks 44th all-time. He is ranked 4th in career ERA while top 6 in WHIP, OAVG, and K/9 and his 1400+ IP should not see him off the qualifying standard. Morrissey was a 5-time All-Star and won a ring with Carolina in 2012.
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Duncan Phelps, RP Winterfell (Las Vegas)
Has fallen to 3rd all-time in saves. He spent his entire career with Las Vegas and was selected to 3 All-Star games. He registered a slew of strikeouts to go along with his saves, piling up 1267 K's in 1158 innings. His ERA ranks 12th all-time.
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Sam Ruppert, SP Cookeville (Chicago LOL)
Ruppert was a nomad throughout his career, spending time with 6 different franchises, but he was well-accomplished and teams were willing to pay him. Just missed 3,000 K's, finishing with 2,876. 182 wins and a 3.68 ERA were the final numbers for the 4-time All-Star and 2018 World Series winner.
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Manny Torres, SP Cincinnati (SoCal)
Thrillseeker compiled 2000+ K's in his career while posting a sub-4 ERA. Managers were not afraid to give him the rock, he finished his career with 27 CG's.
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Thomas Washington, SP New York
His pitching numbers rank him up there in the conversation with anyone else that has taken mound in this league. And as great as his regular season numbers are, look to the post-season and he has most career playoff wins. Remarkable! 8-time All-Star won 2 Seaver Trophies to go along with all his Top 10 stat finishes (Wins, K's, VORP, WAR, CG, & SHO)
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The Charts...

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^^Career totals^^

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^^test scores^^

A further breakdown of what the test scores entail could be found by clicking on the link.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/about ... sary.shtml

Ink tests measure leaderboard appearances. Standards score is 100 max, 50 is supposedly average HOF'er. Monitor score is suppose to tell likelihood of induction, not if deserved. 100 is very likely, 130 is a virtual cinch.

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^^career ranks for batters &pitchers.^^
--Blue = top 10, green = top 25. Purple= Does not qualify for leaderboard.
--Era(s) is ranking of ERA out of the 338 starters with at least 100 career NDL starts

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^^ Relievers don't have a Hall of Fame standards score, as they don't have any set standards, so I put up a chart of the 5 MLB relievers in the HOF and 3 most likely to get in at the end, if you wish to compare.^^

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^^--162 game averages for all batters.
-- A chart with the 162 game averages of the last 22 batters(including Craig Biggio) inducted in MLB HOF is in spoiler tag for comparison^^[/quote]
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Amaya
Cole
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Morrissey
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Amaya
J. Lopez
Wu
Washington
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Amaya
Cole
Morrisey
Washington
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Voted So Far (9)

Miami
San Antonio
Philadelphia
Boston
Vancouver
South Dakota
Sheltown
Cookeville
Washington
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Cnasty wrote:Amaya
Cole
Washington
Morrissey
You forgot gibbons
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cougnix wrote:Amaya
J. Lopez
Wu
Washington
You also forgot gibbons
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Boston_Rob wrote:Amaya
Cole
Morrisey
Washington
Gibbons
FIFY
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edited above post. :shock:
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Bourassa
Washington
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Amaya
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I will get mine in later this evening or tomorrow. Wife and son leaves today.
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Voted So Far (14)

Miami
San Antonio
Philadelphia
Boston
Vancouver
South Dakota
Sheltown
Cookeville
Washington
Port Orange
Albany
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Amaya
Cole
Franks
Wu
Pablo Lopez
PABs
Washington
Morrissey
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bump. Stuck at 14.
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Spoiler!
Reign's Ballot:
T. Washington
A. Amaya
N. Gibbons
P. Lopez
J. Ramos
M. Lewis
Z. Wu
S. Ruppert
P. A-B
M. Morrissey

So close... but not quite there...
J. Nash
R. Ruiz
J. Cole
C. Long
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I figured Cole would be a 1st ballot, easy selection. Seems iffy based on some of the votes.
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On Reign's list everyone gets orange slices!
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Cnasty wrote:On Reign's list everyone gets orange slices!

...and Capri Sun!
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P Lopez
Morrissey
Wu
Gibbons
J Lopez
Ruppert
Burgos
Phelps
Amaya
Cole
Washington
Lewis
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