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[cougnix]

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/10600 ... ortscenter

BOISE, Idaho -- A handful of Idaho hockey fans sued a Boise arena on Tuesday, saying they were duped into thinking a $7 beer contains more brew than a $4 beer.

The lawsuit says CenturyLink Arena, home of the Idaho Steelheads hockey team, defrauded customers by charging $3 more for a tall, narrow cup advertised as a "large" that actually holds the same amount of beer as the shorter, wider cup described as a "small." The Steelheads are affiliated with the Dallas Stars.

Arena spokesman Mike Campbell said he hadn't yet seen the lawsuit and can't comment.

Four fans filed the suit Tuesday in Boise's 4th District Court against Block 22 LLC, which does business as CenturyLink Arena. Brady Peck, Michele Bonds and William and Brittany Graham are seeking $10,000 in damages.

“
While different shapes, both cup sizes hold substantially the same amount of liquid and are not large versus small in actual capacity. Defendants knowingly sold each of their beers in a similar manner at each event held at the arena where beer was sold for at least the last five years.
”
-- Attorney Wyatt Johnson,
in lawsuit against CenturyLink Arena
In the lawsuit, Peck says he's attended at least 30 events over the past three years at the arena, including a hockey game on March 5, and that he's purchased beer each time. The other three plaintiffs say they have been attending sporting events at the venue for five years and that they bought at least one large $7 beer at each event.

"While different shapes, both cup sizes hold substantially the same amount of liquid and are not large versus small in actual capacity," the group's attorney, Wyatt Johnson, wrote in the lawsuit. "Defendants knowingly sold each of their beers in a similar manner at each event held at the arena where beer was sold for at least the last five years."

The lawsuit came just two days after another hockey fan posted a video on YouTube of what the fan said was a beer purchased at CenturyLink Arena on March 8. That video shows a patron holding a large cup of beer and pouring it into an empty small cup. In both cups, the beer reaches nearly to the brim.

Gwen Gibbs, who posted the video, told the Idaho Statesman that she was annoyed when she saw her boyfriend, Heath Forsey, pour the large beer into the smaller cup, so decided to upload the video. CenturyLink officials announced a short time later that the company would purchase new cups for the large beers that would hold 24 ounces instead of the previous 20 ounces for a bigger difference in size.

At the time, Eric Trapp, the president of the Idaho Steelheads hockey team and CenturyLink Arena, wrote on the team's Facebook page that the company had ordered 16-ounce and 20-ounce cups and never intended to mislead customers.

"It's amazing what can be done with one little video and the power of social media," Gibbs told the newspaper, joking that she hoped CenturyLink would rename the 24-ounce cups the "Heath and Gwen size."

CenturyLink Arena hosts concerts and other events and is also home to the Idaho Stampede, an NBA Development League team.

[cougnix]

Same thing happened at CenturyLink Field (Quest Field at the time)

I never buy beers in cups at games. Always bottles.

[Weasel]

They probably could have gotten away with it if they called it "tall v short" instead of "large v small"

[ajalves]

[cougnix]

BACON!!!

[Cnasty]

Why is that pig smiling?

[LetsGoPeay]

A daycare in Canada "suspended" a 2 year old girl for two days because her dad gave her a sandwich to snack on in the car. She stashed it and brought it into the daycare where they have a no outside food policy. I can understand the policy... but "suspending" a 2 year old from daycare? WTF?

[Cnasty]

Its funny as I have seen kids just disappear from my sons classes in the last 6 months or so.

I asked some of the teachers what happened to so and so and they have been kicked out of the school. Mostly for biting over and over and over and over.

[dakshdar]

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/10600 ... ortscenter

Spoiler!

BOISE, Idaho -- A handful of Idaho hockey fans sued a Boise arena on Tuesday, saying they were duped into thinking a $7 beer contains more brew than a $4 beer.

The lawsuit says CenturyLink Arena, home of the Idaho Steelheads hockey team, defrauded customers by charging $3 more for a tall, narrow cup advertised as a "large" that actually holds the same amount of beer as the shorter, wider cup described as a "small." The Steelheads are affiliated with the Dallas Stars.

Arena spokesman Mike Campbell said he hadn't yet seen the lawsuit and can't comment.

Four fans filed the suit Tuesday in Boise's 4th District Court against Block 22 LLC, which does business as CenturyLink Arena. Brady Peck, Michele Bonds and William and Brittany Graham are seeking $10,000 in damages.

“
While different shapes, both cup sizes hold substantially the same amount of liquid and are not large versus small in actual capacity. Defendants knowingly sold each of their beers in a similar manner at each event held at the arena where beer was sold for at least the last five years.
”
-- Attorney Wyatt Johnson,
in lawsuit against CenturyLink Arena
In the lawsuit, Peck says he's attended at least 30 events over the past three years at the arena, including a hockey game on March 5, and that he's purchased beer each time. The other three plaintiffs say they have been attending sporting events at the venue for five years and that they bought at least one large $7 beer at each event.

"While different shapes, both cup sizes hold substantially the same amount of liquid and are not large versus small in actual capacity," the group's attorney, Wyatt Johnson, wrote in the lawsuit. "Defendants knowingly sold each of their beers in a similar manner at each event held at the arena where beer was sold for at least the last five years."

The lawsuit came just two days after another hockey fan posted a video on YouTube of what the fan said was a beer purchased at CenturyLink Arena on March 8. That video shows a patron holding a large cup of beer and pouring it into an empty small cup. In both cups, the beer reaches nearly to the brim.

Gwen Gibbs, who posted the video, told the Idaho Statesman that she was annoyed when she saw her boyfriend, Heath Forsey, pour the large beer into the smaller cup, so decided to upload the video. CenturyLink officials announced a short time later that the company would purchase new cups for the large beers that would hold 24 ounces instead of the previous 20 ounces for a bigger difference in size.

At the time, Eric Trapp, the president of the Idaho Steelheads hockey team and CenturyLink Arena, wrote on the team's Facebook page that the company had ordered 16-ounce and 20-ounce cups and never intended to mislead customers.

"It's amazing what can be done with one little video and the power of social media," Gibbs told the newspaper, joking that she hoped CenturyLink would rename the 24-ounce cups the "Heath and Gwen size."

CenturyLink Arena hosts concerts and other events and is also home to the Idaho Stampede, an NBA Development League team.

"While different shapes, both cup sizes hold substantially the same amount of liquid and are not large versus small in actual capacity."

Improper use of the word "substantially" in this context. While it can mean "essentially", it is rarely used to mean that. Most anyone reading the sentence would thing that "substantially" was being used to mean "significantly" or "considerably" and when you're talking about comparing two sizes and finding they're the same, you don't want to use a term that can be taken to mean they're not the same and they are the same.

100 times out of 100 they should have used the word "essentially" or even "approximately".

If that was in the filing by the lawyer, I'd fire them.

[nick]

[BFiVL]

Grammar fight!!!!!!!

[cougnix]

Lawyer 1 - dak 0 with the assist from nick...

[shel311]

Is crime scene tape normally used just for break ins?

Interesting, we may need to get Rust in on this case!

[nick]

Reign is the Yellow King?

[shel311]

Reign is the Yellow King?

Can I be Marty? Marty had some good times .

[BIGmike]

Reign is the Yellow King?

Can I be Marty? Marty had some good times .

I also vote for Marty. Getting. It. In.

[nick]

I call Black cop #2

[ajalves]

bought my 3rd period class sausage biscuits from McDs the other day.....

[Weasel]

bought my 3rd period class sausage biscuits from McDs the other day.....

Are they the class that pisses you off the least, or was it just because that's when youre hungriest? Perhaps both?

[dakshdar]

No shit. I said it can mean exactly what you're pointing to, but it is a bad idea in the context of this lawsuit because of the possible confusing primary meaning. Common usage would normally be:

"It's 90 degrees today and it was 60 degrees today. It is substantially hotter today." Or "It is hotter to a great degree."

This makes it confusing when they are saying that the two cups are "substantially the same size" but they are not trying to convey difference.

A comparable comment, again about the weather, for the way they're using substantially would be:

"It's 90 degrees today, it was 89 degrees yesterday. It is substantially the same temperature today."

People don't use the second definition of substantially in this manner. It's archaic. I pointed this out already but you apparently didn't want to read the entire post.

Lawyer 1 - dak 0 with the assist from nick...

No, see above.