2013 College Football Season

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CollegeFootballNews ‏@ColFootballNews 1h
College football media, when it comes to Petrino, GET OVER YOURSELF. Did he break laws? Did he put a program on probation? He wins games.

Perfectly said.

[shel311]

CollegeFootballNews ‏@ColFootballNews 1h
College football media, when it comes to Petrino, GET OVER YOURSELF. Did he break laws? Did he put a program on probation? He wins games.

Perfectly said.

+1billion

[Whittness10]

Jason I think you need to move an hour East and get away from all that negativity. But I am wiling to bet, that if something like this were to happen in Lexington, that the media there would be similar to the Louisville media in this situation.

[Nole4real]

I've been on the fence several times with Dodd but man oh man, he's an idiot

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... s-franklin

Penn State cannot hire James Franklin. Can't even begin to think about it, actually.

The fact there is "baggage" in the background of Vanderbilt's talented, affable, accomplished coach is enough. All you need to know is that Franklin was Vanderbilt's coach last June 23 when police say four of his players raped an unconscious 21-year-old student in a dorm room.

Each was charged with five counts of aggravated rape and two counts of aggravated sexual battery. They all were subsequently kicked off the team. They later pleaded not guilty. A fifth player pleaded guilty to attempting to cover up the assault.

Franklin has not been tied to the case, at all. But he was the coach when it happened and that should be enough -- especially at Penn State.

Do you need to know why?

Penn State doesn't need a winning football coach that bad to risk its moral comeback from NCAA hell. The association will begin restructuring discussions next week at its annual convention. We are in the middle of perhaps the biggest upheaval in the organization's history.

That begs the question: Just what the hell are they going to restructure?

The presidents have failed, if you only count their lack of financial oversight. (Doesn't everyone need Brazilian wood in the football facility?) The ADs have proved that all politics are local.

AD Tom Jurich was able to sell the return of Bobby Petrino to Louisville.

Franklin is expected to be named the next coach at Penn State, per CBSSports.com's Bruce Feldman.

Both coaches will have been sold to the locals as properly vetted. If not, the presidents at both schools would have pushed back.
Right? If all politics are local, then presidents are political animals. They don't want to push back in these sort situations or they don't care. Remember Gordon Gee's blind loyalty to Jim Tressel?

Because of situations like this, the nation's most powerful presidents have lost credibility -- in the national NCAA discussion and perhaps on campus.

Petrino is a known serial job hopper, an admitted philanderer and -- by several accounts -- a tough guy to work for. He's going home again where Louisville at least knows what it's getting.

Franklin is one of the hottest coaches in the country, for good reason. Great guy, great teacher. He has won at an unprecedented level at Vanderbilt.

Penn State, though, cannot hire James Franklin.

Penn State will be hiring a coach who oversaw a program when four players were accused of rape. That's really all you have to say at this point. It's Penn State and it would be hiring a coach with that in his background.

This in no way indicts Franklin for anything. He should be given every benefit of the doubt. But sometimes life isn't fair. Greater men than James Franklin have missed out on better jobs because of appearances.

Defense attorneys for one of the players were reportedly seeking texts between Vanderbilt coaches and players. Seven months after the alleged attack, we don't know much about the case.

Penn State has to have a higher standard than any school at this point. The institution is still digging its moral reputation out of the mud. The NCAA has seen fit to restore some scholarships because the program had conducted itself so well under Bill O'Brien. I fully expect one or both of the bowl bans to be rescinded if that exemplary conduct continues.

But Penn State cannot hire James Franklin.

Not if it wants to send the right message to the NCAA, its critics -- to the victims.

Perhaps to the alleged victim in the Vanderbilt case.

At this point, Franklin is guilty of nothing more than overseeing a program with that stain. But at Penn State that should be more than enough. It's not like the school can't find a suitable replacement for O'Brien. By most accounts, Al Golden would crawl back to Happy Valley to take over his alma mater.

You want to talk reputation? Golden stuck with the Hurricanes to dig them out of a crippling NCAA probation.

Franklin would be a football hire more than anything else. Most of them are.

At least Jurich was honest on Thursday.

"I just want the best coach for the University of Louisville," the Cardinals' AD said, "that's all I care about."

Winning percentage trumps all. We've known that for decades. It's big business. It's about filling the stadium, rallying the boosters. Franklin will do those things. He also might be called to testify in the trial of one of his former players in six months.

How is Dave Joyner going to spin that? The Penn State AD may not have to. Both he and president Rodney Erickson may be retired by the time the 2014 season kicks off. No matter who gets the Penn State job, the new coach could face the prospect of inheriting new bosses.

But that's another discussion. Remember the accusation that the football culture had gotten out of control at Penn State? That was Mark Emmert's assertion when the NCAA burned the program to the ground 1½ years ago.

Yes, Emmert and the association went off the reservation in penalizing Penn State. It fostered a national debate that Paterno knew or should have known about Jerry Sandusky's despicable acts. Penn State administrators were accused of looking the other way.

Now Penn State is going to hire a coach who was in charge when four of his players were accused of similar despicable conduct.

We were reminded from the Jameis Winston case that "accused" doesn't mean guilty, but this is different. This is about sending a message that Penn State values some things over football -- like the reputation of the program, like the cleansing of the football culture.

Being Penn State the school can hire just about anyone it wants. It's still Penn State.

But it cannot hire James Franklin.

[shel311]

Dennis Dodd?

You're better than that Carnegie!

[jsence2]

CollegeFootballNews ‏@ColFootballNews 1h
College football media, when it comes to Petrino, GET OVER YOURSELF. Did he break laws? Did he put a program on probation? He wins games.

Perfectly said.

Actually he did break laws and tried to get police to cover up his having a passenger on his bike. That's why he got fired

[jsence2]

Jason I think you need to move an hour East and get away from all that negativity. But I am wiling to bet, that if something like this were to happen in Lexington, that the media there would be similar to the Louisville media in this situation.

Actually Calipari got grilled on his past at his initial press conference. But again.... This isn't just about sports, this gripe extends to all media coverage in Louisville (and most media in general)

[Whittness10]

Jason I think you need to move an hour East and get away from all that negativity. But I am wiling to bet, that if something like this were to happen in Lexington, that the media there would be similar to the Louisville media in this situation.

Actually Calipari got grilled on his past at his initial press conference. But again.... This isn't just about sports, this gripe extends to all media coverage in Louisville (and most media in general)

But once he got that program back on top and winning again, all that went away correct?

[jsence2]

Jason I think you need to move an hour East and get away from all that negativity. But I am wiling to bet, that if something like this were to happen in Lexington, that the media there would be similar to the Louisville media in this situation.

Actually Calipari got grilled on his past at his initial press conference. But again.... This isn't just about sports, this gripe extends to all media coverage in Louisville (and most media in general)

But once he got that program back on top and winning again, all that went away correct?

Well seeing as there was nothing that he did, was ever charged with, or was ever even implicated in (NCAA would love to stick it to him, you think they'd clear him if they could nail him?), the questions were asked, answered, and that was that. But he actually got asked, and he actually answered.

But nice troll attempt, B+ for effort.

[Nole4real]

Dennis Dodd?

You're better than that Carnegie!

I honestly didnt know but i always saw negative comments on his articles. sweet jeebus i can see why

dude is an idiot

[texasfan4444]

Dennis Dodd?

You're better than that Carnegie!

I honestly didnt know but i always saw negative comments on his articles. sweet jeebus i can see why

dude is an idiot

That was tough to read.

Good thing Franklin was at Vandy where his players are held to a higher academic standard. because according to Dodd's reasoning if one were to flunk out of a class that would be reason enough for him not to be the coach of Penn State......GTFO.

[texasfan4444]

1) It's a "big concern" to me because I live in Louisville and it's all the media, news, etc is talking about. I've been bombarded w it nonstop. Personally, I find it hilarious. It kills UofL's "moral high ground" argument and shows that they care only about winning, while they claim they have moral superiority over UK. It's also a concern because (as stated earlier) just another example of how pathetic the media is in this city, across everything. And he won't be fighting w us for recruits for the most part, his big base is central/south Florida, Stoops recruits a ton of Ohio and the northern Florida area.

2) I never said it wasn't a great hire. Petrino is a brilliant offensive mind. But he's a laughable figure who has lied and backstabbed at every single job he's ever held since he did it to Coughlin and the Jaguars. I think it's hilarious and I can't wait until he stabs them in the back again. Maybe this time he'll do more than leave a note in the player's lockers when he skips town. Or when he screws up and Jurich changes his tune and doesn't fire him, ala Clint Hurtt. That said, they should have gone with Chad Morris or the Michigan State DC (who really wanted the job from what reports are saying), would've had less baggage. But at least this provides jokes for a loooong time I doubt Franklin would have considered the job, it's a step down from the SEC.

All well and good and very valid points which is one of the reasons I can still read your posts, but to be brutally honest when it comes from you at this point in the game, its like nails on a chalkboard due to your continual UL bashing. You are quickly reaching feisty fandom lore.

[jsence2]

Dennis Dodd?

You're better than that Carnegie!

I honestly didnt know but i always saw negative comments on his articles. sweet jeebus i can see why

dude is an idiot

That was tough to read.

Good thing Franklin was at Vandy where his players are held to a higher academic standard. because according to Dodd's reasoning if one were to flunk out of a class that would be reason enough for him not to be the coach of Penn State......GTFO.

Dodd is a moron

That said, I'm not sure Franklin should take the job. If he can have another good season, I think he gets offered a much better job than that (maybe Florida, Michigan?). I think Texas would've been smarter getting Franklin instead of Strong.

[texasfan4444]

Charlie seems like he can get into a program and command respect immediately. Franklin I can see taking a few extra years to accomplish what Strong is hoping to accomplish. Though the comments from Red McCombs, one of out top boosters, about the Strong hire were not very complimentary to say the least.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... trong-hire

"But I don't believe [he belongs at] what should be one of the three most powerful university programs in the world right now at UT-Austin. I don't think it adds up."........"I think it is a kick in the face," McCombs said."

There were a lot of other comments that came across, shall we say "old timie". He said he could be a position coach or possibly a coordinator but he cant possibly see him as the head coach of Texas.

[Cnasty]

Good ol boy comments!!

[jsence2]

Btw, hadn't seen this posted in here. Might be one of his best yet. I do love the Stoops/Saban one though Dude is awesome

[texasfan4444]

Btw, hadn't seen this posted in here. Might be one of his best yet. I do love the Stoops/Saban one though Dude is awesome

Saw that one. Right in line with Corey comments.

[jsence2]

Btw, hadn't seen this posted in here. Might be one of his best yet. I do love the Stoops/Saban one though Dude is awesome

Saw that one. Right in line with Corey comments.

Another reason I'm shocked he took the UT job. He dealt with a lot of racism (along w Joker Phillips) when he was an assistant at SC with Spurrier. He and his wife noted that was one major thing they loved about coaching here in Louisville was that they wouldn't have to deal w that anymore. I thought that would be a major deterrant to him going to Texas, because it was a big issue to his wife. He said earlier today that he had a phone conversation w McCombs and that everything is ok, but we will see.

[nick]

2013 and Racism still exists in the US to an extent a coach cant coach?

[jsence2]

2013 and Racism still exists in the US to an extent a coach cant coach?

A lot of times it's not necessarily the coach that has to deal w it, as it is his family. When we hired Tubby Smith to replace Pitino, his family heard stuff. It didn't help that he started his son at PG.

Same with when we hired Joker Phillips, he dealt with it at SC and (to a lesser extent) in some areas of KY.

Ignorance will always exist, and that's all racism is.