MIAMI (AP)—Shaquille O’Neal flopped against Orlando center Dwight Howard. Now he’s standing up to Magic coach Stan Van Gundy.
Responding to Van Gundy’s reaction about O’Neal’s tactics against Howard on Tuesday night, the Phoenix center lashed out at his former coach with the Miami Heat, calling him “a master of panic,” a “nobody” and “a frontrunner.”
“One thing I really despise is a frontrunner,” O’Neal said before the Suns played the Heat, Shaq’s first time back in Miami since last season’s trade. “I know for a fact he’s a master of panic and when it gets time for his team to go into the postseason and do certain things, he will let them down because of his panic. I’ve been there before. I’ve played for him.”
O’Neal was guarding Howard with about 4 minutes left in the third quarter Tuesday night. Howard made a spin move, O’Neal fell to the court in an effort to get an offensive foul called, and the Magic center easily dunked with two hands.
Afterward, Van Gundy said he was “shocked, seriously. I was shocked and very disappointed because he knows what it’s like. You know, let’s stand up and play like men, and I think our guy did that.”
O’Neal, who typically does not talk before Suns games, didn’t hold back when asked for his reaction. He played for Van Gundy in Miami for parts of two seasons and openly complained about coaching decisions in the 2005 Eastern Conference finals, when the Heat lost Game 7 at home to the Detroit Pistons.
“Flopping is playing like that your whole career,” O’Neal said. “I was trying to take a charge, trying to get a call. Yeah, it probably was a flop, but flopping is wrong. Flopping would describe his coaching.”
O’Neal and Van Gundy even had words about it on the sideline in Tuesday’s game, which the Magic won 111-99. O’Neal had 19 points and 11 rebounds.
And Van Gundy brought the fall up in his postgame news conference, without even being asked.
“Note this,” Van Gundy said. “It’s not often that I will needle Shaq, because he’s a big guy and he played for me and helped me win a lot of games. But he always talks about people flopping. Only one big guy tried to flop tonight. He tried to flop. So ask him about that. I told him something on the sideline. I said, ‘C’mon now, all the griping you do about flopping and you’re trying to take a flop.”’
O’Neal said he admitted to Van Gundy in that conversation that it was a flop.
But it was the postgame comments that truly seemed to raise Shaq’s ire.
“I’m not going to sit around and let nobodies take shots at me,” O’Neal said. “He is a nobody to me. If he thinks he can get a little press conference and take shots at me like I’m not take one back, he has another thing coming. … I tried to take a charge. The rules say when a guy comes into your chest and you fall, it’s an offensive foul. That’s all I tried to do. I fell. I didn’t complain.”
Even the Heat found the whole Flop Flap intriguing.
“Hopefully they play Orlando again. I don’t think they do,” Heat guard Dwyane Wade said.
So with that, O’Neal added a new level of intrigue to his long-awaited return to Miami. He was introduced last among Phoenix’s starters, with public address announcer Michael Baiamonte saying, “The Miami Heat welcome back Number 32, Shaquille O’Neal.”
There were a few whistles but mostly applause and cheers from the crowd, which hadn’t seen O’Neal play in Miami since Jan. 21, 2008. He sat out the last five home games of his Heat career before the trade to Phoenix.
O’Neal also took the opportunity for some theater at that point. He went to midcourt to shake hands with Heat owner Micky Arison and his family, plus walked back across the court to the Heat pregame huddle for more handshakes with coach Erik Spoelstra, assistant coach Bob McAdoo and others.
And then he and Wade embraced shortly before tip-off. Thus ended the lovefest: O’Neal’s first basket was a dunk with 10:22 left in the opening quarter, and some fans booed.
O’Neal said before the game, however the crowd received him, it would be out of respect. “I’m not going to go home and drink rat urine,” he said, slightly modifying a phrase he’s used before.
When he was traded to the Suns, O’Neal had a few choice words about having to play with Ricky Davis and Chris Quinn last season in Miami, although he said Wednesday he was only responding to a question and didn’t mean anything to be taken in a derogatory way.
And there was a clear sense that O’Neal simply quit on the Heat last season.
“My grandma always said, you forgive, but you don’t forget,” Wade said. “I live by those words. I forgive a lot of guys. I’m that kind of person. But I don’t forget what he said, either.”
Wade is still friendly with O’Neal, but the two do not speak often. O’Neal’s closest remaining friend on the Heat is Udonis Haslem, whom Shaq sought out for an embrace with 6 1/2 minutes left in the pregame warmup Wednesday. Dorell Wright— another holdover from the Shaq era—joined them a few seconds later, and the trio talked for about a minute.
It’s not likely such an embrace will happen when Phoenix next plays Orlando.
The relationship between Van Gundy and O’Neal has seemed to be tenuous at best for years, and may have just turned downright frosty.
O’Neal came to Miami for the 2004-05 season, helped the Heat win 59 games that season alongside Dwyane Wade and with Van Gundy on the sideline. But that season ended with the loss to the Pistons, a game where Miami wasted a six-point lead over the final 7 minutes and afterward O’Neal said he didn’t get the ball enough.
He also added that night, “I’ll take the blame. I always do.”
Van Gundy resigned 21 games into the next season, Pat Riley took over once again and the Heat won a championship, O’Neal’s fourth title.
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this is shaq like quoted.. amazing
"He (Howard) came with the same old, stale Patrick Ewing move so I tried to stand there and take the charge," said O'Neal. "The new rules say if you come through, you fall. But as I fell, I realized that it was a flop and it reminded me of Coach Van Gundy’s whole coaching career. The one thing I despise is a frontrunner. First of all, none of his players like him. When it gets tough, he will become the master of panic like he did before and he will quit like he did before. The one thing I despise is frontrunners. Yeah, he’s got a young team playing good but don’t be a frontrunner. Him and his brother and even the legend on the bench ain’t done what I’ve done in my whole career. So flopping would be the wrong choice of words. "I just tried to take a charge. The (expletive) rules say you can’t stand there and get hit. You’ve got to fall. The (expletive) got the same old stinking move that Patrick Ewing has been doing his whole career. I went down, got up and didn’t complain. I see him and Stan complaining the whole game because they’ve got to. Remember, I’ve done more than him, his brother and Patrick Ewing. "Stan Van Gundy reminds me of a broke navigational system. He knows everything about everything but ain’t never been nowhere. Think about that. If I’m right here and I type in the address of where you’re going, I know where it’s at but I’m not going there. "When a bum says some (stuff) about it and I respond, you can (expletive) cancel that cuz I know how he is in real life. We’ll see when the playoffs start and he (expletive) panics and quits like he did when he was here (in Miami). And you (expletive) print it just like that. Do I look soft to you like you can say something and I’m not going to say something?
"Notice they didn’t play me straight up. We’ll see how far they go cuz I know Stan. I said this a long time ago but I was actually talking about him: 'When the general panics, the troops will panic. Like in business, when the head panics and takes out all his stock, what happens?
"All the players hate him. The players don’t even like him. I hate frontrunners. I really do. I don’t like any frontrunners. There’s a pecking order involved. I’ve been there six times. "I ain’t going to let no bum like him rip me and not say anything back. You can cancel that (expletive) all the way. Usually, I let (expletive) go. Not that. Not him. Hell no. "The rules say when a guy goes through your chest you’ve got to fall to get the call. It was a flop. You’ve watched me play for 17 years. I don’t play like that."
"He (Howard) came with the same old, stale Patrick Ewing move so I tried to stand there and take the charge," said O'Neal. "The new rules say if you come through, you fall. But as I fell, I realized that it was a flop and it reminded me of Coach Van Gundy’s whole coaching career. The one thing I despise is a frontrunner. First of all, none of his players like him. When it gets tough, he will become the master of panic like he did before and he will quit like he did before. The one thing I despise is frontrunners. Yeah, he’s got a young team playing good but don’t be a frontrunner. Him and his brother and even the legend on the bench ain’t done what I’ve done in my whole career. So flopping would be the wrong choice of words. "I just tried to take a charge. The (expletive) rules say you can’t stand there and get hit. You’ve got to fall. The (expletive) got the same old stinking move that Patrick Ewing has been doing his whole career. I went down, got up and didn’t complain. I see him and Stan complaining the whole game because they’ve got to. Remember, I’ve done more than him, his brother and Patrick Ewing. "Stan Van Gundy reminds me of a broke navigational system. He knows everything about everything but ain’t never been nowhere. Think about that. If I’m right here and I type in the address of where you’re going, I know where it’s at but I’m not going there. "When a bum says some (stuff) about it and I respond, you can (expletive) cancel that cuz I know how he is in real life. We’ll see when the playoffs start and he (expletive) panics and quits like he did when he was here (in Miami). And you (expletive) print it just like that. Do I look soft to you like you can say something and I’m not going to say something?
"Notice they didn’t play me straight up. We’ll see how far they go cuz I know Stan. I said this a long time ago but I was actually talking about him: 'When the general panics, the troops will panic. Like in business, when the head panics and takes out all his stock, what happens?
"All the players hate him. The players don’t even like him. I hate frontrunners. I really do. I don’t like any frontrunners. There’s a pecking order involved. I’ve been there six times. "I ain’t going to let no bum like him rip me and not say anything back. You can cancel that (expletive) all the way. Usually, I let (expletive) go. Not that. Not him. Hell no. "The rules say when a guy goes through your chest you’ve got to fall to get the call. It was a flop. You’ve watched me play for 17 years. I don’t play like that."
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Shaq is a funny dude.
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there are very few guys that are funnier then Shaq... Stan Van Gundy is one of them
i'm going for the little fella in this battle.
i'm going for the little fella in this battle.

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Guys have flopped and fallen vs Shaq his whole career.
When he was on the Lakers guys would flop at least once a fucking quarter vs him.
Who fucking cares if the guys tries to get a flop call his way in his career. Im with Shaq on this one....I think both the Van Gundy's are little faggots
When he was on the Lakers guys would flop at least once a fucking quarter vs him.
Who fucking cares if the guys tries to get a flop call his way in his career. Im with Shaq on this one....I think both the Van Gundy's are little faggots

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There may be a little-er fella, but there is no little fella in this battle.DRiccio21 wrote:i'm going for the little fella in this battle.