2023 Hall of Fame Voting Results

[nick]

do a little investigating later shel and you'll find it. might even be under the big heading called "history"

[shel311]

do a little investigating later shel and you'll find it. might even be under the big heading called "history"

You stud, you.

so being near the top isn't as important as what the production actually was, imo

I searched by all current and retired players with at leaste 4000 plate appearances, so what is that, about 5 seasons at least?

Rojas is:

9th all time in OPS
12th all time in wOBA...whatever that is
24th all time in OPS+

And keep in mind, he had his last 5 years post 35 years old added in already. A lot of these other guys haven't had the decreases in those numbers that will definitely happen.

So, I don't think top 10 is all that farfetched. Certainly top 15 ish.

[ajalves]

im not putting a guy in the HOF because he has the 12th best OPS+ of all time.

[shel311]

im not putting a guy in the HOF because he has the 12th best OPS+ of all time.

I know, you're a batting average/RBI kind of guy.


And fwiw, I've listed more than just 1 stat lol.

[DRiccio21]

im not putting a guy in the HOF because he has the 12th best OPS+ of all time.

this could be a sneaky hall of fame worthy post.

[ajalves]

im not putting a guy in the HOF because he has the 12th best OPS+ of all time.

I know, you're a batting average/RBI kind of guy.


And fwiw, I've listed more than just 1 stat lol.

its not all about metric stats

to say that HRs and RBIs arent important stats is pretty dumb.


every stat you throw up has nothing to do with longevity, that plays into votes too. Like it or not

[DRiccio21]

im not putting a guy in the HOF because he has the 12th best OPS+ of all time.

I know, you're a batting average/RBI kind of guy.


And fwiw, I've listed more than just 1 stat lol.

its not all about metric stats

to say that HRs and RBIs arent important stats is pretty dumb.


every stat you throw up has nothing to do with longevity, that plays into votes too. Like it or not

this doesn't really make sense, but i don't feel like fighting with you cause i'm a little busy.

i'll let shel take over from here. Go get em Shel!


i'll just say this, 'metric stats' don't pop up out of nowhere.

[Cnasty]

Fuck,can we argue about something else already!?!?!

[ajalves]

im not putting a guy in the HOF because he has the 12th best OPS+ of all time.

I know, you're a batting average/RBI kind of guy.


And fwiw, I've listed more than just 1 stat lol.

its not all about metric stats

to say that HRs and RBIs arent important stats is pretty dumb.


every stat you throw up has nothing to do with longevity, that plays into votes too. Like it or not

this doesn't really make sense, but i don't feel like fighting with you cause i'm a little busy.

i'll let shel take over from here. Go get em Shel!


i'll just say this, 'metric stats' don't pop up out of nowhere.

i didnt say they did. But because they are there doesnt mean you forget all other stats. Youve said yourself he isnt a holl of famer. He has 5 really good years. So did Bo Jackson.

[shel311]

He has 5 really good years

12th all time in hitter VORP and 13th all time in hitter WAR.

[ajalves]

He has 5 really good years

12th all time in hitter VORP and 13th all time in hitter WAR.

so after the 1st 10 years of real life MLB, if there was a HOF, the guy who was 12th in "career" VORP and WAR should have got in?

seems silly

[DRiccio21]

i agree on the longevity part.

i also don't think he's a hall of famer.

[ajalves]

i agree on the longevity part.

i also don't think he's a hall of famer.

why not...afterall he's 12th in career VORP

[Cnasty]

I think we need to totally separate our ways of thinking of these guys and real life.

But I also never vote so I sound like Shel in a Tiger league discussion on handicaps.

[shel311]

i agree on the longevity part.

i also don't think he's a hall of famer.

why not...afterall he's 12th in career VORP

But what about the batting average and RBIs!!!

[trendon]

Technically, Rojas was not the first player in NDLB history.

[Cnasty]

Technically, Rojas was not the first player in NDLB history.

Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!

[shel311]

Technically, Rojas was not the first player in NDLB history.

Oh noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My world is shattered.


Tell me more, details!

[trendon]

Remember NDLB beta? We drafted twice, if you recall.

[shel311]

Remember NDLB beta? We drafted twice, if you recall.

No recollection, to be honest