Week 13 College Football

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SEC: Georgia has won the East.
LSU wins the West with a victory over Arkansas.
Arkansas wins the West with a victory over LSU AND an Alabama loss to
Auburn.
Alabama needs a BCS Rankings tiebreaker (they beat Auburn, Arkansas
beats LSU, and Alabama and Arkansas are the top two SEC teams in the
next BCS rankings) to win the West.
Bowl eligibles: Seven. Vanderbilt must beat Wake Forest next week.
Tennessee must defeat Kentucky. Mississippi State must beat
Mississippi.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Ten.
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B1G: Michigan State has won their division.
Penn State and Wisconsin play in Madison, winner wins that division.
Bowl eligibles: Nine. Purdue is the only team not out of it, but not
in. They must defeat 1-10 Indiana to get the sixth win.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Ten.
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Pac-12: Oregon wins the North and hosts the title game if it beats
Oregon State. If they don't, Stanford wins the North and hosts the
title game.
As for the South:
UCLA wins the Pac-12 South (and would actually win the division) by
defeating USC. USC would have the best record in the division, but is
ineligible.
If they don't:
A team with FOUR CONFERENCE LOSSES would face Oregon or Stanford.
UCLA would be 5-4.
Arizona State can go to 5-4 with a win over California.
Utah can go to 5-4 with a win over Colorado.
Should this occur:
Utah lost to Arizona State, beat UCLA.
UCLA beat Arizona State, lost to Utah.
Arizona State beat Utah, lost to UCLA.
So that doesn't help. Tiebreaker #2: Record in games within the
division.
UCLA's Pac-12 losses are to: USC (under this scenario), Stanford,
Arizona, Utah. Only one of those losses is outside the division.
Their division record is 2-3.
Arizona State's Pac-12 losses: Oregon, Washington State, Arizona,
UCLA. 3-2 in division, UCLA eliminated.
Utah's Pac-12 losses: USC, Washington, Arizona State, Cal. 3-2 in
division, still tied with Arizona State, so they revert to the two-
team tiebreaker, and Arizona State qualifies.
So, after all that: UCLA must win to get to the Pac-12 title game (or
have Utah lose).
Arizona State qualifies as long as it eventually gets into a two-team
tiebreak with Utah, see above. (UCLA loses, Arizona State wins, Utah
wins.) A Utah win MUST OCCUR in this scenario, or UCLA goes on the
HTH.
Utah can still qualify, but needs to win and have both UCLA and
Arizona State lose.
Final Bowl Eligibles: Seven
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Big XII: Let's get the simple part out of the way first: Oklahoma
State wins the conference with a win over Oklahoma OR an Iowa State
win over Oklahoma. (Ok State has tiebreaker over Kansas State in two-
way.)
Oklahoma wins the conference if they win out. (Three-way tiebreak
goes to Oklahoma on sweeping the other two teams.)
Bowl Eligibles: Eight. Texas Tech must defeat Baylor.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Nine.
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ACC: Clemson has won the Atlantic. Virginia-Virginia Tech winner
wins the Coastal.
Bowl Eligibles: With Miami's self-imposed bowl ban, Seven. North
Carolina State must defeat Maryland to get the necessary sixth win of
sufficient quality (FBS) to get in.
Posslble Bowl Eligibles: Eight.
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Big East: Hoo boy.
There are five teams with two losses.
Louisville has one game left with South Florida. They hold wins, in
this group, over Rutgers and West Virginia, losing to Pittsburgh and
to Cincinnati.
Rutgers has one game left with Connecticut. They hold wins, in this
group, over Cincinnati and Pittsburgh, losing to West Virginia and to
Louisville.
Cincinnati has Syracuse and Connecticut left. They hold wins, in this
group, over Pittsburgh and Louisville, losing to Rutgers and West
Virginia.
West Virginia and Pittsburgh are yet to play. One of those teams will
drop out of this tiebreaker.
West Virginia has South Florida to play as well. They hold wins over
Rutgers and Cincinnati, losing to Louisville.
Pittsburgh has Syracuse left. They hold a win over Louisville and
losses against Rutgers and Cincinnati.
Presuming no losses outside the tiebreaker, and applying the mini-
conference method of tiebreak put forth by the Big East:
If West Virginia beats Pittsburgh, then (WV 2-1, Cincy 1-2, Rutgers
1-2, Louisville 2-1), Louisville would qualify on the head-to-head.
If Pittsburgh beats West Virginia, then (Pitt 1-2, Cincy 2-1, Rutgers
2-1, Louisville 1-2), Rutgers would qualify.
Bowl eligibles: Four. Every team in the conference still has a shot
at bowl eligibility.
Pittsburgh must defeat Syracuse or West Virginia.
Connecticut must defeat both Rutgers and Cincinnati, which could
create a God-awful mess (and a SIX-TEAM TIE) at three losses if the
Pittsburgh-West Virginia winner loses their other game and Louisville
loses to South Florida. At that point, you have a six-team mini-
conference to sort out. (Rutgers 2-3, Louisville 3-2, Cincinnati 2-3,
West Virginia 4-1 if they defeat Pittsburgh/3-2 if they don't,
Pittsburgh 3-2 if they defeat West Virginia/2-3 if they don't,
Connecticut 2-3 -- WV qualified if they beat Pittsburgh, another mini-
league with Pittsburgh, WV, and Louisville if they don't, which
Pittsburgh would qualify from with a sweep in that case.)
South Florida probably needs wins over Louisville and West Virginia.
Syracuse needs to beat Cincinnati or Pittsburgh.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Unless my brain fried at some point, I do
believe every one of them can do it exclusively of eliminating another
at present. Likely? Not a chance, but...
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Non-AQs:
Indies: Final Bowl Eligibles: Two.
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Mid-American: Ohio University has won the East (sweep over the other
two teams if necessary)
Northern Illinois needs only a win over Eastern Michigan to win the
West. (HTH over Toledo if necessary)
Bowl Eligibles: Six. Kent State must beat Temple. Eastern Michigan
must beat Northern Illinois and give Toledo the West Division.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Eight.
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Mountain West: TCU has won the conference by virtue of HTH over Boise
State and Wyoming.
Bowl Eligibles: Four. Air Force must defeat Colorado State.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Five.
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C-USA: Southern Miss wins the East with a win over Memphis, or an
East Carolina win over Marshall.
If Memphis and Marshall win, then Marshall wins the East.
Houston and Tulsa play for the West title this week.
Bowl Eligibles: Four at present, see below for a fifth. UTEP must
defeat Central Florida.
BOWL ELIMINATION GAME: East Carolina vs. Marshall. Winner gets to
6-6, loser is 5-7.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Six.
**
Sun Belt: Arkansas State has won the conference championship. It
sweeps the conference with a win over Troy.
Final Bowl Eligibles: Four.
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WAC: Louisiana Tech wins the conference with a win over New Mexico
State with it's win over Nevada last week.
If it loses, Nevada needs victories over Utah State and Idaho.
Bowl Eligibles: Only Two. Utah State needs at least one more win
(Nevada and NM State). Hawaii needs to defeat at least one of Tulane
and BYU.
Possible Bowl Eligibles: Four.
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So, out of all that, only one game is a direct bowl play-in, and
that's non-AQ.
If my math is correct, that would give us 81 bowl-eligible teams.
Mike

[calbrs04]

You lost me at SEC. I need to drink more to read this an understand it.

[TEEwade]

Somehow I think Louisville has to be the most likely to get the big east's bid. Sounds crazy considering we need help, but I like the chances.

Cincinnati has two games left without Collaros. @ Syracuse and vs UCONN. UCONN always closes the year well, and Syracuse blasted WVU at home. I think 1 of those 2 come ready to play vs Cincy who is already down without Collaros.

Pittsburgh has two games left. Tough game to travel to WVU in an always exciting backyard brawl. Pitt has only beat Louisville (We suck at home too) on the road, and WVU has the best QB. Close at home with Syracuse.

UofL has to win AT USF. Never done that before is the only problem. BJ Daniels may sit with a shoulder injury, and for some reason Charlie Strong has done better on the road since he started here.

I would love to see Louisville represent the conference in the BCS (I know they do not deserve it when you look on paper; no one really does) despite all of the negativity which will be lashed out. Despite the shitty OOC performance, we did what we had to do inside the conference to earn the bid. Charlie Strong would have them ready to play. Not to mention, we will bring 20,000+ fans to Florida for sure.

WVU or UofL are the best case scenarios for the conference. WVU has always competed in BCS bowls. These are the only two schools in the conference to win BCS bowls as well. Rutgers would be next if I could pick.

[shel311]

LSUFreek, never disappoints:

[buckeye76]

Somehow I think Louisville has to be the most likely to get the big east's bid. Sounds crazy considering we need help, but I like the chances.

Cincinnati has two games left without Collaros. @ Syracuse and vs UCONN. UCONN always closes the year well, and Syracuse blasted WVU at home. I think 1 of those 2 come ready to play vs Cincy who is already down without Collaros.

Pittsburgh has two games left. Tough game to travel to WVU in an always exciting backyard brawl. Pitt has only beat Louisville (We suck at home too) on the road, and WVU has the best QB. Close at home with Syracuse.

UofL has to win AT USF. Never done that before is the only problem. BJ Daniels may sit with a shoulder injury, and for some reason Charlie Strong has done better on the road since he started here.

I would love to see Louisville represent the conference in the BCS (I know they do not deserve it when you look on paper; no one really does) despite all of the negativity which will be lashed out. Despite the shitty OOC performance, we did what we had to do inside the conference to earn the bid. Charlie Strong would have them ready to play. Not to mention, we will bring 20,000+ fans to Florida for sure.

WVU or UofL are the best case scenarios for the conference. WVU has always competed in BCS bowls. These are the only two schools in the conference to win BCS bowls as well. Rutgers would be next if I could pick.

From the first game of the year to now, U of L has really improved I think.

[buckeye76]

Somehow I think Louisville has to be the most likely to get the big east's bid. Sounds crazy considering we need help, but I like the chances.

Cincinnati has two games left without Collaros. @ Syracuse and vs UCONN. UCONN always closes the year well, and Syracuse blasted WVU at home. I think 1 of those 2 come ready to play vs Cincy who is already down without Collaros.

Pittsburgh has two games left. Tough game to travel to WVU in an always exciting backyard brawl. Pitt has only beat Louisville (We suck at home too) on the road, and WVU has the best QB. Close at home with Syracuse.

UofL has to win AT USF. Never done that before is the only problem. BJ Daniels may sit with a shoulder injury, and for some reason Charlie Strong has done better on the road since he started here.

I would love to see Louisville represent the conference in the BCS (I know they do not deserve it when you look on paper; no one really does) despite all of the negativity which will be lashed out. Despite the shitty OOC performance, we did what we had to do inside the conference to earn the bid. Charlie Strong would have them ready to play. Not to mention, we will bring 20,000+ fans to Florida for sure.

WVU or UofL are the best case scenarios for the conference. WVU has always competed in BCS bowls. These are the only two schools in the conference to win BCS bowls as well. Rutgers would be next if I could pick.

From the first game of the year to now, U of L has really improved I think.

[TEEwade]

Somehow I think Louisville has to be the most likely to get the big east's bid. Sounds crazy considering we need help, but I like the chances.

Cincinnati has two games left without Collaros. @ Syracuse and vs UCONN. UCONN always closes the year well, and Syracuse blasted WVU at home. I think 1 of those 2 come ready to play vs Cincy who is already down without Collaros.

Pittsburgh has two games left. Tough game to travel to WVU in an always exciting backyard brawl. Pitt has only beat Louisville (We suck at home too) on the road, and WVU has the best QB. Close at home with Syracuse.

UofL has to win AT USF. Never done that before is the only problem. BJ Daniels may sit with a shoulder injury, and for some reason Charlie Strong has done better on the road since he started here.

I would love to see Louisville represent the conference in the BCS (I know they do not deserve it when you look on paper; no one really does) despite all of the negativity which will be lashed out. Despite the shitty OOC performance, we did what we had to do inside the conference to earn the bid. Charlie Strong would have them ready to play. Not to mention, we will bring 20,000+ fans to Florida for sure.

WVU or UofL are the best case scenarios for the conference. WVU has always competed in BCS bowls. These are the only two schools in the conference to win BCS bowls as well. Rutgers would be next if I could pick.

From the first game of the year to now, U of L has really improved I think.

Indeed. The losses to FIU and Marshall were huge growing pains. Those losses are the definition of growing and getting better from a loss. We have seen as many as 9 freshman/sophomores on the field at once on offense, played 17 freshman/redshirt freshman and 14 sophomores vs WVU and won on the road, and are the 2nd youngest team in the country. Love what Charlie Strong is doing.

[LetsGoPeay]

[quote="TEEwade]and are the 2nd youngest team in the country. Love what Charlie Strong is doing.[/quote]
I'm somewhat familiar with the youngest team in the country.

[DRiccio21]

i would love to know how many college/pro athletes throw games or play with knowledge of the line and trying to get above or below for monetary purposes... i'm gonna guess its a bigger number than we think

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/brea ... 63713.html

[nick]

i would love to know how many college/pro athletes throw games or play with knowledge of the line and trying to get above or below for monetary purposes... i'm gonna guess its a bigger number than we think

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/brea ... 63713.html

the entire MAC for starters

[buckeye76]

i would love to know how many college/pro athletes throw games or play with knowledge of the line and trying to get above or below for monetary purposes... i'm gonna guess its a bigger number than we think

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/brea ... 63713.html

I agree dave, think its a bigger number than we think.

[trendon]

I know seeit is shaving points.

[trendon]

I thought the lesser amount of scholarships was supposed to improve football as a whole. For a few scant years, it did; teams like South Florida, Louisiana Tech, and Ohio took advantage and nabbed a few of the better recruits that wouldn't make their respective state's bigger schools' rosters. Well, what the fuck happened? B.J. Daniels is the best USF could do and the entire MAC is awful to watch ... and I brag that I could watch twenty-two toaster ovens play football.

[Seeitsaveit13]

I know seeit is shaving points.

LOL

[trendon]

I know seeit is shaving points.

LOL

Your school fucking sucks, by the way. It takes A LOT to get me aggravated by a football team that isn't mine, but this offensive gameplan is fucking embarrassing. It is like the passing version of 10-Yard Fight. One step, rocket a slant to the slot receiver two yards away, and brutally miss an easy field goal.

[trendon]

Also, while we are making baseless accusations, I would like to accuse Texas-San Antonio and Tony of illegal recruiting, drug abuse, and bribery. There is no way a team should just show up in I-AA ball and start winning.

[bearass]

This has probably already been talked about here since a lot of us are big college football fans. I was reading up on my bcs stuff and there is a clause for 3 teams to get in the bcs if 1 & 2 are from the same conference without being champs. I'm sure Georgia fans already knew this though as it seems to be plausible for the first time this year.

[shel311]

I was reading up on my bcs stuff and there is a clause for 3 teams to get in the bcs if 1 & 2 are from the same conference without being champs.

Man, there's outrage any time ONE team makes a title game without winning its conference.

Imagine if it's 2 teams this year.

[LetsGoPeay]

There's a rumor that Ron Zook has already been told his services are no longer needed, it just hasn't been made public yet.

[brwnbear]

There's a rumor that Ron Zook has already been told his services are no longer needed, it just hasn't been made public yet.

Peay, whats the outsiders view of Zook? while I was in school, Illinois managed to go to 1 (bcs) bowl game (fuck you Shel), and then won 7 total games over 4 years. There where many games where I didnt stop tailgaiting because I knew we had no chance. It seems like Illinois is back to being competitive. Obviously, Zook has peaked, but is he viewed as a total failure, or will he get credit for improving Illlinois?