Cnasty wrote:The play the pass and user jump snap are the most overblown features and yes if personally used against me, I will dock because its a win at all costs type of strat.
Like AJ said, I noticed a lot of people using this in "key" situations and all of a sudden all the strategy points and crap were coming out of the wood work.
Well lets ban the features then.
If the owner and a commish dislike them. Lets ban them.
Right?
Could someone shut this guy up please?!
Why?
If My bosses that I am going to get docked for something. Should it not be against the rules? I am not speaking in riddles.
cdub21 wrote:to tag onto what dole said, sure guessing pass gives your team a "boost" but isn't that what you do when you call your plays? try and gain an advantage on the other team? i dont use it im just saying that logic doesnt make sense to me.
Yeah I mean. If I am a coach and I tell my team sell out on the pass. They are passing. That gives me an advantage, but thats a good thing right. If you run I am going to get hurt.
Test it in game. If its 3rd 8 and I guess pass, and you run you will get a big gain a large chunk of the time.
That's a load of crap. Unless I'm in goal line and you're in quarters prevent, I will not be getting 8 yds just because you have play the pass turned on. In fact, your DL will be charging upfield and will likely stuff it.
S14: N Texas 7-1
S15: Wake 8-5
S16-21: Washington 9-4, 10-3, 8-5, 9-4, 7-6, 6-7
S22: Ohio 8-5
S23: ECU 12-2
S24-26: Kentucky 8-5, 5-7, 5-7
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cdub21 wrote:to tag onto what dole said, sure guessing pass gives your team a "boost" but isn't that what you do when you call your plays? try and gain an advantage on the other team? i dont use it im just saying that logic doesnt make sense to me.
Yeah I mean. If I am a coach and I tell my team sell out on the pass. They are passing. That gives me an advantage, but thats a good thing right. If you run I am going to get hurt.
Test it in game. If its 3rd 8 and I guess pass, and you run you will get a big gain a large chunk of the time.
You are right in that aspect but if it's 3rd and 8 and you call a man cover 2 play you are playing the pass still but will still have reaction to the run if linebackers read it, if you are in zone you are playing the pass but may be able to at least not allow for a big play.
you play the pass that tells your line their is no HB getting the ball so just bust in to the QB and yes your line is more aggressive in attack with play the pass. it tells your LB's and secondary there is no run coming so just sit home or stay with your WR I haven't seen a person complete a pass play at all even short yardage against play the pass because if your going deep it will get sacked before you have time to throw, get picked or it will get knocked down. If you throw short you'll be lucky to get the ball unless it is way underneath the coverage. In other words can't you do this same thing simply with good play calling????? I'm just saying
People that say turning this stuff on doesn't have a big impact are out of their minds. I played Alabama the first game of season 1. Back then nobody really knew wtf these setting really did.
I put big run on and absolutely destroyed Bama's defense. Biffy would be the first to admit that he couldn't stop me. It didn't matter if a defender was in the way, I just ran over or thru him.
Bama switched strip to aggressive in an attempt to stop it. The results, I fumbled twice right away.
The point is, neither one of use showed any extra skill. We just changed the settings and the results were instantaneous. That is the last time that I used any of it because it was so obvious that it's garbage. I didn't get better, my players simply got better because I changed a setting.
As for this game was designed with these settings in mind.........riiiiiiiiiiiiight. The online stuff doesn't factor into anything EA does. There are a whopping 1000 people on this game when it first comes out then there is nobody. How many people are online now?
Everything EA does for this game is designed for offline and dynasty mode. That is where the money is made and a vast majority of players reside.
I hope to hell this shit is not in the next game. We are on season 3 and still can't find any acceptable solution to how this stuff should or shouldn't be used. I will not use it and I don't care if it costs me wins.
cdub21 wrote:to tag onto what dole said, sure guessing pass gives your team a "boost" but isn't that what you do when you call your plays? try and gain an advantage on the other team? i dont use it im just saying that logic doesnt make sense to me.
Yeah I mean. If I am a coach and I tell my team sell out on the pass. They are passing. That gives me an advantage, but thats a good thing right. If you run I am going to get hurt.
Test it in game. If its 3rd 8 and I guess pass, and you run you will get a big gain a large chunk of the time.
You are right in that aspect but if it's 3rd and 8 and you call a man cover 2 play you are playing the pass still but will still have reaction to the run if linebackers read it, if you are in zone you are playing the pass but may be able to at least not allow for a big play.
you play the pass that tells your line their is no HB getting the ball so just bust in to the QB and yes your line is more aggressive in attack with play the pass. it tells your LB's and secondary there is no run coming so just sit home or stay with your WR I haven't seen a person complete a pass play at all even short yardage against play the pass because if your going deep it will get sacked before you have time to throw, get picked or it will get knocked down. If you throw short you'll be lucky to get the ball unless it is way underneath the coverage. In other words can't you do this same thing simply with good play calling????? I'm just saying
See I think your insane. I called guess the pass on Sammy 5 times last night and that dude was completing passes like a mad man
cdub21 wrote:to tag onto what dole said, sure guessing pass gives your team a "boost" but isn't that what you do when you call your plays? try and gain an advantage on the other team? i dont use it im just saying that logic doesnt make sense to me.
did you really just say that??????
what your not going to call a play that you think is going to stop the other team? put your players in a better position than the other team?
When you call a play you're trying to out think the other coach not take advantage of something lmao did you think about what you were saying before you typed it????????
cdub21 wrote:to tag onto what dole said, sure guessing pass gives your team a "boost" but isn't that what you do when you call your plays? try and gain an advantage on the other team? i dont use it im just saying that logic doesnt make sense to me.
Yeah I mean. If I am a coach and I tell my team sell out on the pass. They are passing. That gives me an advantage, but thats a good thing right. If you run I am going to get hurt.
Test it in game. If its 3rd 8 and I guess pass, and you run you will get a big gain a large chunk of the time.
You are right in that aspect but if it's 3rd and 8 and you call a man cover 2 play you are playing the pass still but will still have reaction to the run if linebackers read it, if you are in zone you are playing the pass but may be able to at least not allow for a big play.
you play the pass that tells your line their is no HB getting the ball so just bust in to the QB and yes your line is more aggressive in attack with play the pass. it tells your LB's and secondary there is no run coming so just sit home or stay with your WR I haven't seen a person complete a pass play at all even short yardage against play the pass because if your going deep it will get sacked before you have time to throw, get picked or it will get knocked down. If you throw short you'll be lucky to get the ball unless it is way underneath the coverage. In other words can't you do this same thing simply with good play calling????? I'm just saying
See I think your insane. I called guess the pass on Sammy 5 times last night and that dude was completing passes like a mad man
Like I stated "THAT I'VE SEEN" lol not saying it doesn't happen but I have yet to see it happen and go off of what I see that's what my opinion was based off of dole lol
Dcane7 wrote:
When you call a play you're trying to out think the other coach not take advantage of something lmao did you think about what you were saying before you typed it????????
I really don't see anything wrong with what he typed?
Ok cane. That's all you have seen. I can't argue with that I guess.
disagree, seeit used it against me last night(not calling him out, used very appropriately) and i scored a completed a 25 yard corner route for td, not impossible to beat.
cdub21 wrote:disagree, seeit used it against me last night(not calling him out, used very appropriately) and i scored a completed a 25 yard corner route for td, not impossible to beat.
again I never said it was impossible I said based on what I have seen, my experiences with it lol geesh
FYI, here is a copy of the PM I was going to send to all of my opponents (like I've done in previous years) before the season started. I decided against doing it this season since one oppponent called me an asshole for doing this and "making a demand on how I play" and another once said he will still dock me (see? positive feedback!) but, even so, I don't think it is unreasonable. Without the media, scouting reports etc, to set expectations, bad feelings could arise.
This message is going out to everyone on my schedule. I've decided to do this after spending the past five seasons dealing with different sets of expectations.
If you want to get fives across the board on your coaching report, it is rather simple. There is only one thing I give a crap about. Only one. Let's start by naming the things I don't care about when grading you.
- Winning, per se
- Play-Action Passes
- Setting everything to aggressive in your gameplan
- Fake kicks
- Option
- Late option pitches
- Extremely late option pitches
- Fake punts
- Fake kicks
- Liberally using cadence
- Penalties*
- Audibles
- Crowd pumping
- Halfbacks at fullback
- Wide receivers at halfback
- Pausing
- Motion
- Pump fakes
- Zone defense
- Man defense
- Lobbing the ball
- Cutting it back on runs
- Screen passes
- Throwing to an alternate target on screen passes
- Icing the kicker
- Jumping the snap
- Speed rushing
- Manually blitzing
- Whatever
- Losing by 35 (or more, but I understand.)
I don't care! You can do all of that in the same two trips up and down the field and I will think it is awesome! And, be prepared, because I do all of the above, too. All in moderation, of course, but you will get a little of everything!
What is that ONE THING? Don't play with kid gloves against me. I am an adult that plays in this fun league and I can handle losing. Remember, I am one of the few people in this league against the 35-point rule and it certainly isn't because I plan on winning by that much. Just play the game how you really want ... I won't mind.
I suck so you should win, but I am just getting that out there. Riccio crushes the shit out of me every season and it is always my favorite game of the year. Want fives? Play like you want to play and don't bore the shit out of me.
Good luck!
* - Refuse *ANY* penalty on my team (for a non-strategic reason, of course) and REALISM immediately drops.
trendon wrote:FYI, here is a copy of the PM I was going to send to all of my opponents (like I've done in previous years) before the season started. I decided against doing it this season since one oppponent called me an asshole for doing this and "making a demand on how I play" and another once said he will still dock me (see? positive feedback!) but, even so, I don't think it is unreasonable. Without the media, scouting reports etc, to set expectations, bad feelings could arise.
This message is going out to everyone on my schedule. I've decided to do this after spending the past five seasons dealing with different sets of expectations.
If you want to get fives across the board on your coaching report, it is rather simple. There is only one thing I give a crap about. Only one. Let's start by naming the things I don't care about when grading you.
- Winning, per se
- Play-Action Passes
- Setting everything to aggressive in your gameplan
- Fake kicks
- Option
- Late option pitches
- Extremely late option pitches
- Fake punts
- Fake kicks
- Liberally using cadence
- Penalties*
- Audibles
- Crowd pumping
- Halfbacks at fullback
- Wide receivers at halfback
- Pausing
- Motion
- Pump fakes
- Zone defense
- Man defense
- Lobbing the ball
- Cutting it back on runs
- Screen passes
- Throwing to an alternate target on screen passes
- Icing the kicker
- Jumping the snap
- Speed rushing
- Manually blitzing
- Whatever
- Losing by 35 (or more, but I understand.)
I don't care! You can do all of that in the same two trips up and down the field and I will think it is awesome! And, be prepared, because I do all of the above, too. All in moderation, of course, but you will get a little of everything!
What is that ONE THING? Don't play with kid gloves against me. I am an adult that plays in this fun league and I can handle losing. Remember, I am one of the few people in this league against the 35-point rule and it certainly isn't because I plan on winning by that much. Just play the game how you really want ... I won't mind.
I suck so you should win, but I am just getting that out there. Riccio crushes the shit out of me every season and it is always my favorite game of the year. Want fives? Play like you want to play and don't bore the shit out of me.
Good luck!
* - Refuse *ANY* penalty on my team (for a non-strategic reason, of course) and REALISM immediately drops.
Full disclosure: I still bitch in the comments box. I just don't feel it is my place to screw up your season unless you are doing something tremendously stupid. One man's garbage ...
trendon wrote:FYI, here is a copy of the PM I was going to send to all of my opponents (like I've done in previous years) before the season started. I decided against doing it this season since one oppponent called me an asshole for doing this and "making a demand on how I play" and another once said he will still dock me (see? positive feedback!) but, even so, I don't think it is unreasonable. Without the media, scouting reports etc, to set expectations, bad feelings could arise.
This message is going out to everyone on my schedule. I've decided to do this after spending the past five seasons dealing with different sets of expectations.
If you want to get fives across the board on your coaching report, it is rather simple. There is only one thing I give a crap about. Only one. Let's start by naming the things I don't care about when grading you.
- Winning, per se
- Play-Action Passes
- Setting everything to aggressive in your gameplan
- Fake kicks
- Option
- Late option pitches
- Extremely late option pitches
- Fake punts
- Fake kicks
- Liberally using cadence
- Penalties*
- Audibles
- Crowd pumping
- Halfbacks at fullback
- Wide receivers at halfback
- Pausing
- Motion
- Pump fakes
- Zone defense
- Man defense
- Lobbing the ball
- Cutting it back on runs
- Screen passes
- Throwing to an alternate target on screen passes
- Icing the kicker
- Jumping the snap
- Speed rushing
- Manually blitzing
- Whatever
- Losing by 35 (or more, but I understand.)
I don't care! You can do all of that in the same two trips up and down the field and I will think it is awesome! And, be prepared, because I do all of the above, too. All in moderation, of course, but you will get a little of everything!
What is that ONE THING? Don't play with kid gloves against me. I am an adult that plays in this fun league and I can handle losing. Remember, I am one of the few people in this league against the 35-point rule and it certainly isn't because I plan on winning by that much. Just play the game how you really want ... I won't mind.
I suck so you should win, but I am just getting that out there. Riccio crushes the shit out of me every season and it is always my favorite game of the year. Want fives? Play like you want to play and don't bore the shit out of me.
Good luck!
* - Refuse *ANY* penalty on my team (for a non-strategic reason, of course) and REALISM immediately drops.
Piggy back on Hoos, he was up 14-0 going in for another score. I turned on the strip and THE VERY NEXT PLAY he fumbled and it went to the house for 6.
I will never turn anything on aggressive, if I see you doing it, Ill make sure ill put certain things on conservative and move on. I am still of the school, of pick your play and run it. I dont hot route receivers or audible ( if I do its the default audibles). I will dock you for using these things IF YOU DONT USE THEM IN MODERATION. Too many times I have seen people in this league turn this shit on from the opening KO and keep em on all game.
I will also dock you if you use the shit in the same situation all game. Just as you would dock me if I ran the same play over and over on the same down and distance or the same defensive play on 3rd down and 10.
Since they are not banned, then the only rule we have for them is moderation.
