NDL Forum

This is after the roster patch. In bold is the changes that were updated.
BIG differences for a lot of teams.

Notably LSU,Oregon, and Ole Miss jumping to an A-.
Clemson, Maryland, WVU, and ND jumping to B+.
And a HUGE number of teams jumping to B or B-. Especially in the Big 10 and SEC.

I wonder if this is the final version of the rosters besides the name or another change possible??

ACC
FSU A- B+ A-
Georgia Tech B+ B A-
North Carolina B+ B+ A-
Miami B+ B+ A-
Va Tech B+ B+ A-
Clemson B+ B+ B+
Maryland B+ B+ B+
NC State B B B+
Wake Forest B B B
Virginia B B- B
Boston College B- B- B-
Duke C- C C-

Big 12
Oklahoma A+ A+ A
Texas A+ A+ A
Oklahoma St. A- A B+
Nebraska B+ B+ A-
Texas A&M B B B+
Kansas St. B B- B+
Texas Tech B- B- B-
Kansas B- B C
Baylor B- B- C-
Colorado B- B- B-
Missouri C+ B- C+
Iowa St. C- C C-

Big East
USF B+ B+ B+
West Virginia B+ B+ B+
Cincinnati B+B+ B+
Rutgers B B B+
Pitt B B B
Louisville C+ B- C
Connecticut C C+ C-
Syracuse D+ C- C-

Big Ten
Penn St. A- A- A-
Ohio St. A- B+ A
Michigan B+ B A-
Wisconsin B+ B B+
Illinois B B+ B-
Northwestern B B- B+
Purdue B B- B
Indiana B- C+ B
Iowa C+ B- C
Minnesota C+ B- C
Michigan St. C+ B- C+

Conference USA
Houston B B B-
UCF B- B- B-
Southern Miss B- B C
ECU C+ C+ C+
Tulsa C C+ C
Marshall C B- C
Memphis C B- D+
Rice C- C D+
UTEP C- C+ D+
UAB C- C D+
SMU D+ C- C-
Tulane D+ C D+


Independents
Notre Dame B+ A- B+
Navy C- C- C-
Army D C- D

MAC
Bowling Green C- C+ C-
Temple C C C
Central Mich. C B- D+
Kent St. C C+ C-
Buffalo C- C+ D+
Miami U C- C C-
Ohio C- C C-
Akron C- C C-
Toledo C- C D+
Western Michigan C- C+ D+
Ball St. C- C+ D
Northern Illinois D+ C- D+
E Mich D C- D


Mountain West
TCU B B B-
Utah B B B-
BYU B- B+ C+
SDSU C C+ C
CSU C- C C-
Air Force C- C D+
UNLV C- C D+
New Mexico D+ C D+
Wyoming D C- D


Pac-10
USC A+ A A+
Cal A- A- A-
Oregon A- B+ A
Oregon St. B+ B+ B+
Arizona B B B
ASU B B B+
Washington B B B
UCLA B- B- B-
Stanford C B- C-
Washington St. C- C+ C-

SEC
Florida A+ A+ A+
Georgia A- B+ A
Alabama A- B+ A
LSU A- A- A-
Ole Miss A- B+ A-
Tennessee B+ B+ A-
Auburn B B- B
Arkansas B- B B-
South Carolina B- B- B-
Mississippi St. B- C+ B-
Vanderbilt B- B- B
Kentucky C+ C+ C+


Sun Belt
Ark St. C- C+ C-
Troy C- C C
FIU C- C C-
UL Monroe C- C C-
FAU D+ C+ D
North Texas D+ C D+
Mid. Tenn D+ C+ D
Western Kentucky D C D
UL Lafayette D C- D

WAC
Boise St. B B B
Fresno St. C B- C
Hawaii C+ C+ C+
La Tech C B- C-
Nevada C B- D+
NMSU D+ C D+
SJSU D C D
Idaho D C D
Utah St. D D D

Old rosters for comparison sakes and updates:

ACC
FSU A- B+ A
Georgia Tech B+ B A-
North Carolina B+ B+ A-
Miami B+ B+ A-
Va Tech B+ B+ B+
Clemson B B+ B
Boston College B- B- B-
NC State B- B- B-
Maryland B- B C+
Wake Forest C+ B- C
Virginia C C+ C
Duke C- C C-

Big 12
Oklahoma A+ A+ A
Texas A+ A+ A
Oklahoma St. A- A B+
Nebraska B+ B+ B+
Texas Tech B- B- B-
Texas A&M B B B+
Kansas C+ B C
Kansas St. C+ C+B-
Missouri C+ B- C
Baylor C+ C+ C+
Colorado C C+ C
Iowa St. C C+ C-

Big East
USF B+ B+ B+
West Virginia B B+ B-
Cincinnati B B+ B+
Rutgers B B B+
Pitt B B B
Louisville C+ B- C
Connecticut C C+ C-
Syracuse D+ C- D+

Big Ten
Penn St. A- A- A-
Ohio St. A- B+ A
Michigan B+ B A-
Wisconsin B+ B B+
Illinois B B+ B-
Indiana B- C+ B
Iowa C+ B- C
Northwestern C+ C+ C
Purdue C+ B- C
Minnesota C B- C
Michigan St. C- C+ C-

Conference USA
UCF B- B- B-
Southern Miss B- B C+
ECU C+ C+ C+
Houston C+ C+ C+
Tulsa C C+ C-
Marshall C B- C
Memphis C B- D+
Rice C- C C-
UTEP C- C+ D+
SMU C- C- C-
Tulane D+ C D
UAB D+ C C-

Independents
Notre Dame B A- B-
Navy C- C C-
Army D+ C D

MAC
Bowling Green C C+ C
Temple C C C
Northern Illinois C- C- C-
Central Mich. C- B- D+
Kent St. C- C+ C-
Miami U C- C C-
Ohio C- C C-
Akron C- C C-
Toledo C- C D+
Western Michigan C- C+ D+
Ball St. D+ C+ D
E Mich D C- D
Buffalo D C D

Mountain West
TCU B- B- B-
Utah B- B B-
BYU C+ B C
SDSU C C+ C-
New Mexico C- C+ D+
CSU D+ C- D+
Air Force D+ C D
Wyoming D C- D
UNLV D C- D+

Pac-10
USC A+ A A+
Cal A- A- A-
Oregon B+ B+ A-
Oregon St. B+ B+ B+
Arizona B B B
ASU B B- B+
Washington C+ C+ B
UCLA C+ B- C+
Stanford C B- C
Washington St. C C+ C-

SEC
Florida A+ A+ A+
Georgia A- B+ A
Alabama A- B+ A
Tennessee B+ B+ A-
LSU B+ A- B
Ole Miss B+ B+ A-
Arkansas B- B- C+
Auburn B- B- B-
Kentucky C+ C+ C+
South Carolina C+ B- C+
Mississippi St. C C+ C
Vanderbilt C C+ C

Sun Belt
Ark St. C- C+ C-
Mid. Tenn C- C+ D+
Troy C- C D+
FAU D+ C+ D
UL Monroe D+ C D+
North Texas D D+ D+
Western Kentucky D C D
FIU D C D
UL Lafayette D C D

WAC
Boise St. B B B-
Fresno St. C B- C
Hawaii C C+ C
La Tech C B- C-
Nevada C B- D+
NMSU D+ C D+
SJSU D C- D
Idaho D C D
Utah St. D- D- D

B-,B-,B-

TO

B,B,B+


very nice

ohhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Boom

Huge changes...ND'd defense went from a B- to a B+ and OVR went from a B to a B+.

So how do we get these rosters?

packsyD22 wrote:So how do we get these rosters?

Did you download the update?

If so, you got the rosters.

You dont need to get them from the locker.

anyone update these yet (again)

Nole4real wrote:anyone update these yet (again)

I dont think its changed the letter grade, just the names.

k..i see one that I know is wrong....I'll double check tonight..maybe its just the 1 im looking at that is off

Iowa is wrong. When I went and did team grade updates I just went through the team list in exhibition mode since I noticed Iowa was wrong.

So they just changed the names and the grades changed AGAIN???

Thats pretty odd.

Cnasty wrote:So they just changed the names and the grades changed AGAIN???

Thats pretty odd.

What a cluster fuck. LOL oh well, this should be the last one. We should of just been patient.

I nominate Nole to do it.

I think the roster update and the patch are needed. The roster update gives us the right players and the update gives the rosters certification.

I deleted the rosters post patch and they seemed all wrong. So, I reloaded the rosters and all seems right now. Just my .02

Cnasty wrote:So they just changed the names and the grades changed AGAIN???

Thats pretty odd.

No, you just missed updating a few of the teams to their new grades.

Oh, ok good.

So we can still use this list with just a couple updates? Did you verify?

Cnasty wrote:This is after the roster patch. In bold is the changes that were updated.
BIG differences for a lot of teams.

Notably LSU,Oregon, and Ole Miss jumping to an A-.
Clemson, Maryland, WVU, and ND jumping to B+.
And a HUGE number of teams jumping to B or B-. Especially in the Big 10 and SEC.

I wonder if this is the final version of the rosters besides the name or another change possible??

ACC
FSU A- B+ A-
Georgia Tech B+ B A-
North Carolina B+ B+ A-
Miami B+ B+ A-
Va Tech B+ B+ A-
Clemson B+ B+ B+
Maryland B+ B+ B+
NC State B B B+
Wake Forest B B B
Virginia B B- B
Boston College B- B- B-
Duke C- C C-

Big 12
Oklahoma A+ A+ A
Texas A+ A+ A
Oklahoma St. A- A B+
Nebraska B+ B+ A-
Texas A&M B B B+
Kansas St. B B- B+
Texas Tech B- B- B-
Kansas B- B C
Baylor B- B- C-
Colorado B- B- B-
Missouri C+ B- C+
Iowa St. C- C C-

Big East
USF B+ B+ B+
West Virginia B+ B+ B+
Cincinnati B+B+ B+
Rutgers B B B+
Pitt B B B
Louisville C+ B- C
Connecticut C C+ C-
Syracuse D+ C- C-

Big Ten
Penn St. A- A- A-
Ohio St. A- B+ A
Michigan B+ B A-
Wisconsin B+ B B+
Illinois B B+ B-
Northwestern B B- B+
Purdue B B- B
Indiana B- C+ B
Iowa C+ B- C
Minnesota C+ B- C
Michigan St. C+ B- C+

Conference USA
Houston B B B-
UCF B- B- B-
Southern Miss B- B C
ECU C+ C+ C+
Tulsa C C+ C
Marshall C B- C
Memphis C B- D+
Rice C- C D+
UTEP C- C+ D+
UAB C- C D+
SMU D+ C- C-
Tulane D+ C D+


Independents
Notre Dame B+ A- B+
Navy C- C- C-
Army D C- D

MAC
Bowling Green C- C+ C-
Temple C C C
Central Mich. C B- D+
Kent St. C C+ C-
Buffalo C- C+ D+
Miami U C- C C-
Ohio C- C C-
Akron C- C C-
Toledo C- C D+
Western Michigan C- C+ D+
Ball St. C- C+ D
Northern Illinois D+ C- D+
E Mich D C- D


Mountain West
TCU B B B-
Utah B B B-
BYU B- B+ C+
SDSU C C+ C
CSU C- C C-
Air Force C- C D+
UNLV C- C D+
New Mexico D+ C D+
Wyoming D C- D


Pac-10
USC A+ A A+
Cal A- A- A-
Oregon A- B+ A
Oregon St. B+ B+ B+
Arizona B B B
ASU B B B+
Washington B B B
UCLA B- B- B-
Stanford C B- C-
Washington St. C- C+ C-

SEC
Florida A+ A+ A+
Georgia A- B+ A
Alabama A- B+ A
LSU A- A- A-
Ole Miss A- B+ A-
Tennessee B+ B+ A-
Auburn B B- B
Arkansas B- B B-
South Carolina B- B- B-
Mississippi St. B- C+ B-
Vanderbilt B- B- B
Kentucky C+ C+ C+


Sun Belt
Ark St. C- C+ C-
Troy C- C C
FIU C- C C-
UL Monroe C- C C-
FAU D+ C+ D
North Texas D+ C D+
Mid. Tenn D+ C+ D
Western Kentucky D C D
UL Lafayette D C- D

WAC
Boise St. B B B
Fresno St. C B- C
Hawaii C+ C+ C+
La Tech C B- C-
Nevada C B- D+
NMSU D+ C D+
SJSU D C D
Idaho D C D
Utah St. D D D

I think the above is right on

if it matches the below (which is *official* since i got it from ythe ladder where mike entered it)

TEAM GRADE
Air Force Falcons C-
Akron Zips C-
Alabama Crimson Tide A-
Arizona Wildcats B
Arizona State Sundevils B
Arkansas Razorbacks B-
Arkansas State Indians C-
Army Black Knights D
Auburn Tigers B
Ball State Cardinals C-
Baylor Bears B-
Boise State Broncos B
Boston College Eagles B-
Bowling Green Falcons C-
Brigham Young Cougars B-
Buffalo Bulls C-
California Golden Bears A-
Central Florida Golden Knights B-
Central Michigan Chippewas C
Cincinnati Bearcats B+
Clemson Tigers B+
Colorado Buffaloes B-
Colorado State Rams C-
Connecticut Huskies C
Duke Blue Devils C-
East Carolina Pirates C+
Eastern Michigan Eagles D
Florida Gators A+
Florida Atlantic Owls D+
Florida International Panthers C-
Florida State Seminoles A-
Fresno State Bulldogs C
Georgia Bulldogs A-
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets B+
Hawaii Warriors C+
Houston Cougars B
Idaho Vandals D
Illinois Fighting Illini B
Indiana Hoosiers B-
Iowa Hawkeyes B
Iowa State Cyclones C-
Kansas Jayhawks B-
Kansas State Wildcats B
Kent State Golden Flashes C
Kentucky Wildcats C+
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs C
Louisiana-Lafayette Rajun Cajuns D
Louisiana-Monroe Indians C-
Louisville Cardinals C+
LSU Tigers A-
Marshall Thundering Herd C
Maryland Terrapins B+
Memphis Tigers C
Miami Redhawks C-
Miami Hurricanes B+
Michigan Wolverines B+
Michigan State Spartans C+
Middle Tennessee State Blue Raiders D+
Minnesota Golden Gophers C+
Mississippi Rebels A-
Mississippi State Bulldogs B-
Missouri Tigers C+
Navy Midshipmen C-
NC State Wolfpack B
Nebraska Cornhuskers B+
Nevada Wolf Pack C
New Mexico Lobos C-
New Mexico State Aggies D+
North Carolina Tarheels B+
North Texas Eagles D+
Northern Illinois Huskies D+
Northwestern Wildcats B
Notre Dame Fighting Irish B+
Ohio Bobcats C-
Ohio State Buckeyes A-
Oklahoma Sooners A+
Oklahoma State Cowboys A-
Oregon Ducks A-
Oregon State Beavers B+
Penn State Nittany Lions A-
Pittsburgh Panthers B
Purdue Boilermakers B
Rice Owls C-
Rutgers Scarlet Knights B
San Diego State Aztecs C
San Jose State Spartans D
South Carolina Gamecocks B-
South Florida Bulls B+
Southern Cal Trojans A+
Southern Methodist Mustangs D+
Southern Miss Golden Eagles B-
Stanford Cardinal C
Syracuse Orangemen D+
TCU Horned Frogs B
Temple Owls C
Tennessee Volunteers B+
Texas Longhorns A+
Texas A&M Aggies B
Texas Tech Red Raiders B-
Toledo Rockets C-
Troy State Trojans C-
Tulane Green Wave D+
Tulsa Golden Hurricane C
UAB Blazers C-
UCLA Bruins B-
UNLV Rebels C-
Utah Utes B
Utah State Aggies D
UTEP Miners C-
Vanderbilt Commodores B-
Virginia Cavaliers B
Virginia Tech Hokies B+
Wake Forest Demon Decons B
Washington Huskies B
Washington State Cougars C-
West Virginia Mountaineers B+
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers D
Western Michigan Broncos C-
Wisconsin Badgers B+
Wyoming Cowboys D

Yay, I did something right!!

I wouldnt put much faith in in. I was on my 5th Riccio can of beer by then.

Cnasty wrote:Yay, I did something right!!

I wouldnt put much faith in in. I was on my 5th Riccio can of beer by then.

Drinking beer and doing P90. Sameful