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nick wrote:damn Tesla is like Sheltown. Always promising that win, but never actually achieving it. Wonder if the Sheltown board is getting sick of it.
Very nice.

At what point does Tesla/Elon go emo mode though and just always assume they're going to lose?

That $130k Tesla is like 2033-2034 Sheltown!!!
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once i owned one my fanboy grew irrationally
the car is that amazing

i will never drive another gas powered car again

~typing this from my tesla going 75 down the road on autopilot
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shel311 wrote:Has Elon given reasons for continually missing the mark on projections/being cash flow positive?
there are always 'reasons'. reasons are irrelevant... there is do or don't do. the thing that elon has going for him is he actually successfully launched a car biz from ground floor. which is basically unheard of in modern civilization. just about everyone who has ever tried that has failed. and while he misses all his dates/targets, typically just about everything he says is going to happen eventually happens.

so people just chalk it up to his personality and don't really think about the dates/#'s too literally.

the problem becomes when it lasts for years and fund managers need to show performance. patience runs out and people start to bail. but in the longer term view of the actual stock, its behaved very normally for a huge winning name. it went from 15-250 in like 4 years and then went sideways for 2 or 3. thats called 'basing' all stocks 'base'. the fact the stock never cratered back down to 100 is pretty amazing (not to say it still couldn't). typically growth companies go thru major advances like that then correct 70-80% then need to recreate themselves and create a new revenue stream/product to become another leader. it happened with AAPL with ipod to iphone to ipad etc. with AMZN from selling books to selling everything to now ruling the world, to NFLX with delivering DVD's to streaming to creating content. the point is once you make the first BIG PUSH, the air typically comes out and then you have to recreate another product to be a HUGE leading stock. TSLA had that first run up then just kinda coasted/floated/based up here and now they need to show that the model 3 is the next thing to push it higher. but with stocks stuff like that is built in years in advance so its somewhat concerning the next leg higher hasn't happened yet because everyone on earth already knows about the model 3 and the potential of it. so the disconnect is will he actually come thru or not.
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Cnasty wrote:For almost 500,000 people to have $1000 reserves on a car they havent even driven yet is pretty impressive and a sign Tesla is changing the industry and a lot of people do not like that at all.
Not sure if she's serious, but the wife is dropping hints about the Tesla 3 when she's due to re-up with a car, which will be right around that time, 3 years or so.

I'm not happy about it. :lol:
one ride in it with cathy did it!

it has that effect on people
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DRiccio21 wrote:
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DRiccio21 wrote:its interesting hearing your perspective of it as a fan boy vs mine as an investor. i've been in the stock for years and the negativity around the stock is about at all time highs right now. there are a million factors about why that is and how stocks work and that can actually be an extremely bullish sign that people are so fed up with the stock.
What are the negatives and do you agree with those assessments?
the only negative that matters thats holding the stock down is the inability to come thru on his #'s he's projecting. they've missed every target he's basically ever set. much of that is expected at this point as he typically just throws out pie in the sky type projections and nobody really takes them seriously anymore. but he said they'd be cash flow positive for like 3 years and they still aren't... so investors have grown some what annoyed by that.

in stocks, negatives are actually positives as long as it doesn't effect the stock price. if there is only positive data being presented then there is no 'other side' to the mkt and when the music stops everyone is forced to sell. when there is negative news and the stock doesn't go down its a sign that there is a strong underlying demand for the stock. when that news turns positive all those people who were negative become built up energy as they need to buy the stock back and that creates the momentum for higher prices.

it's sort of like holding a ball under water, once they report positive earnings growth the pressure 'should' be let off and then it can continue its uptrend.

This concept is one of the best little tidbits of information I've read on the boards in a long time. It's common sense, but not common knowledge (to an average person).
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Tesla talk thread is a success!!
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Cnasty wrote:Tesla talk thread is a success!!
If the thread was to talk about Tesla, success. If it was for interesting talk about Tesla, not a success. We got into stock talk...booooring.

What's the big news? Get this back on the interesting path.
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It's being released on Elon time so that means whenever the hell he wants.

I'd say a big piece of Tesla talk is financials and sustainment so a nice Belen if you will happening up in here.
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Even a Google search didn't help me to know what a "Belen" is.
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How did balance become Belen and what or who is Belen?!?
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Cnasty wrote:How did balance become Belen and what or who is Belen?!?
It had the appearance of maybe being a real word, had me duped for sure.

I didn't even question whether it was not a real word.
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5 pm pacific time he's announcing and doing 30 min q & a
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DRiccio21 wrote:5 pm pacific time he's announcing and doing 30 min q & a
Corey just canceled his 3pm cst meeting!
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shel311 wrote:
DRiccio21 wrote:5 pm pacific time he's announcing and doing 30 min q & a
Corey just canceled his 3pm cst meeting!
That's 7pm our time. We're good!
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Cnasty wrote:
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DRiccio21 wrote:5 pm pacific time he's announcing and doing 30 min q & a
Corey just canceled his 3pm cst meeting!
That's 7pm our time. We're good!
When you're so worried about getting the mediocre joke out there that you don't even get the easy stuff right. :oops:
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one thing i've heard he's going to do eventually is get rid of the steering wheel all together or make a virtual steering wheel.

its starting now
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all cars have auto feature ... seems like a dud of an announcement. as per the norm recently
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DRiccio21 wrote:all cars have auto feature ... seems like a dud of an announcement. as per the norm recently
Wait, what?

Is this lack of tech knowledge Dave talking or stock Dave talking?

This is absolutely huge and revolutionary for the auto industry to get to autonomous vehicle assistance and being the first in the industry to do so on their vehicles.

The future is here folks.
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Mind blown

We are excited to announce that, as of today, all Tesla vehicles produced in our factory – including Model 3 – will have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver. Eight surround cameras provide 360 degree visibility around the car at up to 250 meters of range. Twelve updated ultrasonic sensors complement this vision, allowing for detection of both hard and soft objects at nearly twice the distance of the prior system. A forward-facing radar with enhanced processing provides additional data about the world on a redundant wavelength, capable of seeing through heavy rain, fog, dust and even the car ahead.

To make sense of all of this data, a new onboard computer with more than 40 times the computing power of the previous generation runs the new Tesla-developed neural net for vision, sonar and radar processing software. Together, this system provides a view of the world that a driver alone cannot access, seeing in every direction simultaneously and on wavelengths that go far beyond the human senses.
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But didn't we know this already?

Or at the least, it was assumed the 3 would be self driving as well?
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