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you know the right side won when the KKK is out celebrating it...

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nick wrote:you know the right side won when the KKK is out celebrating it...

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That has absolutely zero to do with who won and why they won or the people that votes him in.

This is what is wrong with the left. They see this and everyone on the right is lumped in with this hatred. The left will never learn that characterizing a whole voting populace because of this absolute minority is never going to further their policies.
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Cnasty wrote:Reign, what's Trumps stance on tesla. That's all I care about.

Climate change being a myth in his eyes makes me think not good.

Probably about as opposite as you can get. :-)

With that said, a Trump presidency should have very little, if any impact on Tesla/Musk.
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lmao trump is president
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shel311 wrote:BRITAIN: Brexit is the stupidest, most self-destructive act a country could undertake.
USA: Hold my beer.

This was my favorite meme from today. It probably helps that I hit up /r/holdmybeer at least once a week.
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dakshdar wrote:It would also be nice if the people that are all crying in their cheerios today would instead start talking about flipping 3 of the 8 Republican senate seats that come up for vote in 2 years or flipping the house in 2018.

From what I understand, the senate in is the best option. It's unlikely they can get the work done in the house with the way that it's currently setup. It actually seems pretty likely that they can pull off the senate shift in 2yrs.

I'm sure the GOP is well aware and the focus in the first year will be setting up the major issues that they can push through prior to this change happening. The backside of the term will be spent on gray areas that can be negotiated, such as NAFTA/TPP.

Keep in mind, Trump isn't Ted Cruz or an establishment GOP candidate. He doesn't make his choices based on what the status quo is, but what his mind (ego) believes is right and he's even stated that it can vary based on timing.

I think he has a tremendous opportunity to get quite a bit done, right or wrong... personally I think his right will far outweigh his wrong in the long run.
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This was done about 2-3 weeks before the election... that's a pretty familiar voice narrating...

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Found that video linked in this post... it's long, but gives a different perspective on things. I'm sure with many of us spread around the country, our experiences are different. But I can definitely identify with a few things in this post. Well done on their part.
Spoiler!
"How did this happen?!" they cry.

You want to know how this happened? You want to know how America resorted to bigotry and racism? You want to know how we let a TV star with no experience get to the White House? You want to know why we couldn’t stop being stupid enough to listen to what you had to say?

I can explain.

Ten years ago I never had to tell somebody my wife was black and children were of mixed race to get them to stop assuming I was racist.

Ten years ago I didn’t have to tell somebody I’m bisexual to get them to stop assuming I was being homophobic.

Ten years ago I didn’t have to tell people I’ve read the Qu’ran to get them to stop assuming I was ignorant of Islam.

Fifteen years ago I had pride in my nation.

Twenty years ago I didn’t have to worry about the government spying on my because I sat next to someone suspicious on a plane.

Twenty years ago I didn’t have to worry about getting kidnapped for being an American in most other countries.

Twenty years ago 50 corporations made up 90% of the media market; today its 6.

Thirty years ago people weren’t being attacked by animals in the streets over who they voted for.

This is the country that brought the world electricity, the light bulb, that tamed the last frontiers in the world, that carved the faces of great men into mountains, that brought us powered flight, that broke the sound barrier, brought Europe peace after the most destructive war ever seen, tried to play nice but brought forth a fury never fucking seen before when we were attacked, sent men to the fucking Moon. But something happened.

We began intervening in other nations’ conflicts. We started trying to develop this network of power across the world. We started fighting wars for money. And when we were attacked harder than ever before, we pulled our punches and used it as an excuse to fight somebody that wasn’t even responsible.

We voted for change and change never came. We voted for the young charismatic man, and he sold us a bridge. He was given near complete power to bring change and what he brought us was a hamfisted attempt at health-care reform that he didn’t understand and we didn’t want. He promises change from the needless wars and brings us anonymous murder from above on an unprecedented scale. And because he happened to be President when gays got the right to marry, we are supposed to think of him positively?

Let me ask you, when was the last time you heard a song written with this much national pride?

We are tired of being led down the path of shame. We are tired of fighting other people’s wars. We are tired to the globalist network of power. We are tired of the oligarchy. We are tired of being undisputably the single most powerful nation to ever exist on this Earth and yet not being able to win the wars that corporations, industries, and oligarchs get us into because our leaders want to pretend war is an opportunity to be culturally sensitive and play nice.

But when we try to voice these concerns and desires we are called racist because the person we disagree with is black. We are called sexist because the person we disagree with is a woman. We are called homophobic for saying there are bigger priorities for the President than deciding who uses what bathroom. We are called Islamohobic for expecting our ultra-powerful military and police might to be able to provide us security. We are called rednecks, and fools, and morons, all because we disagree.

And we are told we should not disagree, because the “experts” say so? Like Nate Silver, who has been wrong about everything since 2012? Who was wrong about the results of the 2014 Midterms, the Brexit vote, the Primaries, the World Series, and the General election? I’m only an amateur analyst and I outperformed him.

We should just believe CNN who has been proven to feed information to political parties? Who orders their focus groups on how to respond? Who cuts the audio from anyone that strays from the narrative they sell?

The pollsters, who were so incredibly wrong about 2012, Brexit, and 2016?

Why should we believe the “experts” who get paid more and more for being right when they can’t get anything right?

Then a man we’ve known for decades shows up and decides to speak up for us - and you call him racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamaphobic, arachnaphobic and whatever else. But he speaks to us and for us. And you try to shut him up. You cast him as a reality TV star with no knowledge, while peddling Hollywood stars with no knowledge, as if Donald Trump has not been a household name for four fucking decades?

Then all the people we’ve been sick of, the Bush family, the Clinton family, the Obama Administration, the elite of the world and the market and media all of these people we have been trying to get to change team up against this man. And you think we can’t see through that?

You lied about polls and when we saw through it you called us paranoid. You lied about crime committed and called us paranoid. You lied about the medical status of a public figure, for fuck’s sake, and called us paranoid. Yet time after time when we were right, you just said “A broken clock is right twice a day!”

No.

Fuck you. This happened because we are so goddamn sick of you. We are so goddamn sick of not being heard. We are tired of being brushed off when we speak, so we don’t speak often. The Silent Majority.

Michael Moore of all fucking people, was the only one of you globalist shits to ever actually GET IT. You don’t fucking get it. Michael Moore, of aaaaaall people said words that brought me to tears because of how accurate he was.

The media didn’t want him.
The GOP establishment didn’t want him.
The pollsters didn’t want him.
The globalists didn’t want him.
The NeoCons didn’t want him.
The Socialists didn’t want him.
The global power brokers didn’t want him.

But the people who are tired of fighting these wars our military isn’t allowed to win, tired of being robbed, tired of being taxed to poverty, tired of being insulted, tired of being slandered, tired of being lied to, tired of our livelihoods being given away, tired of being brushed off - yeah, US, we wanted him.

He isn't any of the things you try to tell us he is. We saw through it and you still lie even in defeat.

At the worst, he will be a message, louder and stronger than we have ever been.

And, at best, he will take us back to the Moon, up to the stars, build unrivaled monuments that will last centuries, bring back our jobs and our pride.

This man literally took on the world for us.

And I bet even if you read this, you still don’t get it.
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ReignOnU wrote:Found that video linked in this post... it's long, but gives a different perspective on things. I'm sure with many of us spread around the country, our experiences are different. But I can definitely identify with a few things in this post. Well done on their part.
Spoiler!
"How did this happen?!" they cry.

You want to know how this happened? You want to know how America resorted to bigotry and racism? You want to know how we let a TV star with no experience get to the White House? You want to know why we couldn’t stop being stupid enough to listen to what you had to say?

I can explain.

Ten years ago I never had to tell somebody my wife was black and children were of mixed race to get them to stop assuming I was racist.

Ten years ago I didn’t have to tell somebody I’m bisexual to get them to stop assuming I was being homophobic.

Ten years ago I didn’t have to tell people I’ve read the Qu’ran to get them to stop assuming I was ignorant of Islam.

Fifteen years ago I had pride in my nation.

Twenty years ago I didn’t have to worry about the government spying on my because I sat next to someone suspicious on a plane.

Twenty years ago I didn’t have to worry about getting kidnapped for being an American in most other countries.

Twenty years ago 50 corporations made up 90% of the media market; today its 6.

Thirty years ago people weren’t being attacked by animals in the streets over who they voted for.

This is the country that brought the world electricity, the light bulb, that tamed the last frontiers in the world, that carved the faces of great men into mountains, that brought us powered flight, that broke the sound barrier, brought Europe peace after the most destructive war ever seen, tried to play nice but brought forth a fury never fucking seen before when we were attacked, sent men to the fucking Moon. But something happened.

We began intervening in other nations’ conflicts. We started trying to develop this network of power across the world. We started fighting wars for money. And when we were attacked harder than ever before, we pulled our punches and used it as an excuse to fight somebody that wasn’t even responsible.

We voted for change and change never came. We voted for the young charismatic man, and he sold us a bridge. He was given near complete power to bring change and what he brought us was a hamfisted attempt at health-care reform that he didn’t understand and we didn’t want. He promises change from the needless wars and brings us anonymous murder from above on an unprecedented scale. And because he happened to be President when gays got the right to marry, we are supposed to think of him positively?

Let me ask you, when was the last time you heard a song written with this much national pride?

We are tired of being led down the path of shame. We are tired of fighting other people’s wars. We are tired to the globalist network of power. We are tired of the oligarchy. We are tired of being undisputably the single most powerful nation to ever exist on this Earth and yet not being able to win the wars that corporations, industries, and oligarchs get us into because our leaders want to pretend war is an opportunity to be culturally sensitive and play nice.

But when we try to voice these concerns and desires we are called racist because the person we disagree with is black. We are called sexist because the person we disagree with is a woman. We are called homophobic for saying there are bigger priorities for the President than deciding who uses what bathroom. We are called Islamohobic for expecting our ultra-powerful military and police might to be able to provide us security. We are called rednecks, and fools, and morons, all because we disagree.

And we are told we should not disagree, because the “experts” say so? Like Nate Silver, who has been wrong about everything since 2012? Who was wrong about the results of the 2014 Midterms, the Brexit vote, the Primaries, the World Series, and the General election? I’m only an amateur analyst and I outperformed him.

We should just believe CNN who has been proven to feed information to political parties? Who orders their focus groups on how to respond? Who cuts the audio from anyone that strays from the narrative they sell?

The pollsters, who were so incredibly wrong about 2012, Brexit, and 2016?

Why should we believe the “experts” who get paid more and more for being right when they can’t get anything right?

Then a man we’ve known for decades shows up and decides to speak up for us - and you call him racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamaphobic, arachnaphobic and whatever else. But he speaks to us and for us. And you try to shut him up. You cast him as a reality TV star with no knowledge, while peddling Hollywood stars with no knowledge, as if Donald Trump has not been a household name for four fucking decades?

Then all the people we’ve been sick of, the Bush family, the Clinton family, the Obama Administration, the elite of the world and the market and media all of these people we have been trying to get to change team up against this man. And you think we can’t see through that?

You lied about polls and when we saw through it you called us paranoid. You lied about crime committed and called us paranoid. You lied about the medical status of a public figure, for fuck’s sake, and called us paranoid. Yet time after time when we were right, you just said “A broken clock is right twice a day!”

No.

Fuck you. This happened because we are so goddamn sick of you. We are so goddamn sick of not being heard. We are tired of being brushed off when we speak, so we don’t speak often. The Silent Majority.

Michael Moore of all fucking people, was the only one of you globalist shits to ever actually GET IT. You don’t fucking get it. Michael Moore, of aaaaaall people said words that brought me to tears because of how accurate he was.

The media didn’t want him.
The GOP establishment didn’t want him.
The pollsters didn’t want him.
The globalists didn’t want him.
The NeoCons didn’t want him.
The Socialists didn’t want him.
The global power brokers didn’t want him.

But the people who are tired of fighting these wars our military isn’t allowed to win, tired of being robbed, tired of being taxed to poverty, tired of being insulted, tired of being slandered, tired of being lied to, tired of our livelihoods being given away, tired of being brushed off - yeah, US, we wanted him.

He isn't any of the things you try to tell us he is. We saw through it and you still lie even in defeat.

At the worst, he will be a message, louder and stronger than we have ever been.

And, at best, he will take us back to the Moon, up to the stars, build unrivaled monuments that will last centuries, bring back our jobs and our pride.

This man literally took on the world for us.

And I bet even if you read this, you still don’t get it.
Spot on with a lot of his points
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GeorgesGoons wrote:
nick wrote:you know the right side won when the KKK is out celebrating it...

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That has absolutely zero to do with who won and why they won or the people that votes him in.

This is what is wrong with the left. They see this and everyone on the right is lumped in with this hatred. The left will never learn that characterizing a whole voting populace because of this absolute minority is never going to further their policies.
Couldn't you say the same thing about the right??? Just because Im liberal minded on some policies doesnt mean i want to take your guns, or Im a socialist, etc.

Both sides play that way, not just the left
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uf83198 wrote:
GeorgesGoons wrote:
nick wrote:you know the right side won when the KKK is out celebrating it...

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That has absolutely zero to do with who won and why they won or the people that votes him in.

This is what is wrong with the left. They see this and everyone on the right is lumped in with this hatred. The left will never learn that characterizing a whole voting populace because of this absolute minority is never going to further their policies.
Couldn't you say the same thing about the right??? Just because Im liberal minded on some policies doesnt mean i want to take your guns, or Im a socialist, etc.

Both sides play that way, not just the left

Touche

But the one thing the right doesn't do that the left does is lumping in all on one side as racist...etc.

I have some very liberal views on social matters. This is where the right needs to become more progressive imo
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ReignOnU wrote: Probably about as opposite as you can get. :-)

With that said, a Trump presidency should have very little, if any impact on Tesla/Musk.
It seems the conversation when it pertains to Tesla and the new regime should be shifted from environmentally friendly for the better on climate change to Made in America and reduces our dependency on foreign oil and also creating a lot of new jobs here in America.
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Cnasty wrote:
ReignOnU wrote: Probably about as opposite as you can get. :-)

With that said, a Trump presidency should have very little, if any impact on Tesla/Musk.
It seems the conversation when it pertains to Tesla and the new regime should be shifted from environmentally friendly for the better on climate change to Made in America and reduces our dependency on foreign oil and also creating a lot of new jobs here in America.
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And the same gorilla received 11k write in votes.
Impressive.
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Cnasty wrote:And the same gorilla received 11k write in votes.
Impressive.
The millennials scare me,. 11k votes for a fucking animal.
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https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656

damn must be a great time for non whites in Trumps america. Dont worry tho, theyre not racists!!
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GeorgesGoons wrote:
Cnasty wrote:And the same gorilla received 11k write in votes.
Impressive.
The millennials scare me,. 11k votes for a fucking animal.
meanwhile 65 mil votes went to a retard in Trump.
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btw that harambe vote was made up by a canadian. shows how little research ppl put into shit.. which also explains why Trump is president
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btw that harambe vote was made up by a canadian. shows how little research ppl put into shit.. which also explains why Trump is president
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