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What is JAWS?

JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score system) was developed by sabermetrician Jay Jaffe as a means to measure a player's Hall of Fame worthiness. A player's JAWS is their career WAR averaged with their 7-year peak WAR. Note that only batting or pitching WAR are used in determining the averages at a given position. The current Hall of Famers are then grouped by position and a position average JAWS is computed.

Here is a link to baseball reference. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_C.shtml

Baseball reference has this very cool feature that you can edit their leaderboards to what you like and then download them to excel. So I was able to integrate the MLB JAWS leaders with our universe's players. I only included players that have appeared on our HOF ballot.

Rather than put up 10 very large images, I just moved the file to google docs. My first time using google docs, I think I have it set up right for everyone to view.

First tab has all positions on one page, but there are separate tabs for each position.

I have two lists on each position, one sorted by JAWS and then one that is sorted by 7-yr Peak.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Very cool work Bernie

Very nice work man.

awesome!

thats sick, i could spend hours looking at that.

also made me realize how good Johnny Bench was. don't get me wrong, i was aware he was a legend, but never realized how impressive his numbers must have been at the C spot

bump ,for HOF voting

was this updated for the upcoming vote?

Uuaww wrote:was this updated for the upcoming vote?

Yes and No. The ballot will be for 2031 class so those guys were already on. 2032 class will be after the season. I have that lined up already, so it will be no delay. Rivera is 60.7 if that's what you're looking for.

trendon just did a reach for the stars jump...

updated with the new 2032 HOF nominees included

Trent Beard is going in as a 2b? He never played anything but 3rd for me. Does this go off of which position he played the most.

Whittness10 wrote:Trent Beard is going in as a 2b? He never played anything but 3rd for me. Does this go off of which position he played the most.

yes. 946 career games at 2B, 690 at 3B

I may have to reconsider my future ballots based on this. It really gives a simplified look at how our universe stacks up.

I'm still gonna vote for Pablo Lopez, Wu and Morrissey. I really need to take a look at Nolan Gibbons though according to this.

In the real HOF, there are quite a few guys with shorter careers so they don't have the longevity milestones, but while they played, they were great.

Wu is a 1st ballot lock guy IMO. He needs to be in the HOF.

Uuaww wrote:I'm still gonna vote for Pablo Lopez, Wu and Morrissey. I really need to take a look at Nolan Gibbons though according to this.

Pablo had a strong showing. I was really hoping he'd get in. He's high up there in a lot of categories. I know some guys have trouble voting a reliever in, but Morrissey may be the best reliever to ever be in our league. He was never my closer when I had him, so he doesn't have the saves. Consistently had more K's in a season than most of my starters.

William Thomas is the best reliever in our league's history. Should be a first ballot when he finally retires but that could be a while.

That's true. I was referring to relievers eligible for HOF.

while were voting in players who pitch 1 inning out of 9 every few days, can we vote in some sure fire hof bench players?

I should start pitchign my dominating starters as closers so they can dominate for 1/9th of a game

Go ahead. No ones stopping you.