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2028 Official Hall of Fame Ballot

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Another huge ballot this year. Good news is with such talent on this year's ballot, it should knock off a bunch of the fringe guys and along with the inductees coming off the ballot, next year should be a lot smaller. Bad news, this year may take some time to sift through. I don't put a deadline on getting your votes in, hopefully before the season starts so I can concentrate on my team then, but please take the time to go through the candidates and make an informed vote by whatever your process is.

This year's ballot consists of twenty-five players. Eighteen carryovers and seven new nominees.

I have put the spoiler tag over the players' season by season stats to save space. Simply click on the spoiler tag and you can see their stats.
I have added a chart with everyone's career totals at the end. A one-stop shop if that is all you're interested in.
I have added a chart with the 162 game averages for the last 21 MLB batters inducted into the real life Hall of Fame. This may be good for comparison.
I have done away with listing each nominee's HOF test scores in their personal rundown. These scores are already in a chart later in the post, it seems kind of redundant having them in there twice.
I have also done away with the previous votes line in each nominees' spot and made one chart listing all nominees and their past voting history.

Voting process and rules are as follows..

--You can PM me your ballot or post it here in this thread. Forum only allows for 10 poll options. Plus no way to track.
--No waiting period after retirement
--75% of all votes received will get a player in. 5% to carry over to next election, 15 seasons max.
--You can vote for zero to ten players, but please vote, even if it's a blank ballot.
--No new teams this year, we should have 29 votes minus the one vacant team. Bear or Plasma, you are more than welcome to vote if you read this.


The Ballot...

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Blacked-out = Not on ballot, Greyed-Out includes that year's results.

The Breakdown..

Jose Chavez, SS Port Orange
Overshadowed in his career by Amaya, Lopez, and Rodriguez at shortstop, but Chavez was a consistent offensive force behind Port Orange's championship seasons. Only batter on the ballot with more than two rings. 250+ HR's and nearly 1000 RBI's while wielding a slick glove at short may garner him some traction with the voters.
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Don Douglas, RF/1B NorCal
A freak broken kneecap on a non-scheduled sim derailed his career, but his numbers in NorCal are still quite impressive. 4-time All-Star, 2012 HOTY, and a .319 career average. His numbers have stood the test of time and he is actually climbing the career batting average leaderboard.
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Javier Guerra, RF Sheltown
A steady and consistent offensive force throughout his career to go along with 3 Gold Glove awards. A career .301 hitter with over 2000 hits and 275 HR's was selected to 3 All-Star Games. One of just 2 players on our ballot that ranks in the Top 100 of EVERY category listed and he is in Top 25 of a lot of important ones.
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Bill Hill, 3B/SS Chicago LOL
Hill narrowly misses out on some career milestones, finishing his career with 1955 hits and a .293 batting average. He played all over the infield, bringing a lot of versatility to his team. Finshed his career Top 10 in Runs, Doubles, and Triples.
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Esteban Jimenez, 3B NorCal
He played nearly equal time in Steel City and had decent stops in Carolina and Dallas, but Jimenez played the most for NorCal. Hit for power, had a good eye, and played a premium position at the hot corner. One of the top 3 third basemen of his era, along with Johnson and Gibbons. Won back to back World Series with 2 different teams, Carolina in '12 and Steel City in '13. 4-time All-Star and was the All-Star Game MVP in 2015.
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Chris Kennedy, DH/LF NorCal
Career OBP of .421! Higher than anyone not named Rodriguez or Wu. And when he got on base, he was going. NDLB's career leader in stolen bases with 583. NorCal always had an impressive lineup through the decade with Douglas, Lopez, Jimenez, Burke, and others, but it was Kennedy that keyed this team when he was on the field. Kennedy's injury history is one of the only knocks on him, playing in 140 or more games just 3 times in his 17 seasons. Kennedy won the 2015 Morris Trophy, batting .453/.506/.613 with 24 runs in 17 games that postseason, as NorCal brought home the trophy. He followed that up in 2016 with a respectable .895 postseason OPS in 2016 as NorCal dropped the World Series that year.
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Jose Lopez, SS/2B NorCal
The Hall of Fame loves HR's, RBI's and middle infielders. Lopez is all 3. Second in career HR's, seventh in RBI's, all while playing the middle infield. He did not hit for average, or do anything else exceptionally well, but nearly 400 HR's and over 1200 RBi's from those positions is rare. Won a World Series in 2015 with NorCal, was selected to 2 All-Star games, and won a Gold Glove.
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Bill Pickett, CF/LF Steel City
One of the most consistent producers year to year. 2013 was a special season from him that may not be duplicated. All-Star, won the triple crown, HOTY, and World Series title in the same season. Only missed out on playoff MVP. Won a Gold Glove in 2016. Came into the league at 30, which obviously hurts his overall numbers, but he put up great numbers in a short time.
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Robinson Rojas, CF/RF Sheltown
Rojas was the first overall pick in the league's inaugural season and his 2010 campaign was perhaps the most acclaimed season by anybody in history. Rookie of the Year, All-Star, HOTY, and Playoff MVP(back when they gave them to losing sides). Injuries hamstrung his overall number totals, but when he was on the field, he was in an elite class. He once drove in 14 runs in one game against the Whalers in 2014. Never won a title, but was selected an All-Star 4 times and won 2 H&K awards to go along with his 2010 ROTY & HOTY.
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Ramon Ruiz, RF Port Orange
5-time All-Star and 2-time champion broke into the bigs in a big way, winning rookie of the year in 2015 after being waived by Sheltown. Had a memorable run in Port Orange before being traded to Louisville in a much hyped trade. Great combination of power and average. Hit 324 HR's and drove in 1082 runs in , a relatively few, 1371 games. Amazingly, did not strike out often. Averaged only 31 K's per 162 games.
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Seiichi Shini, C Sheltown
Shini spent seven seasons in the NPB and USBL before coming over to the NDL. While Suarez dominated the power charts for catchers, Shini was the tough out. Career .290 hitter and played exceptionally well in Sheltown's 2021 postseason run. He won a ring in his swan song with the 2027 Launch while only playing in 4 postseason games, he did bat .375 though.
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Jose Suarez, C Miami (Toronto)
The premier backstop of the 2010's, Suarez was a power hitting catcher with no peer. Did four tours with the Toronto/Miami organization and won a HOTY in 2014 there while leading them to a World Series. Was selected to 6 All-Star games.
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Joe Telvest, 2B/DH/1B Cleveland (Ohio/Hawaii/Carolina)
The Roy Hobbs of our league. Came into the league at 37 and dominated. 2011 Triple crown winner, back-to-back HOTY's in 2011 and 2012. Playoff MVP and World Series title in 2012. 3-time All-Star for the career .336 hitter.
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Domingo Valles, 1B/LF Port Orange
Incredible Grey-Ink test scores for Valles, a well-accomplished player. Power (334 HR's), average (.296), above-average defense, and championships. Won two World Series, one with Port Orange in 2016 and one with SoCal in 2022. The 2016 post-season saw him drive in 16 runs and bat .348 in 16 games. He was a 5-time All-Star, he won Hitter of the Year in 2013, and won two Gold Gloves(one at 1B and one in LF).
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Vaughan Walker, LF New York
An extra-base hit machine during his career, ranking 7th all-time. Another well-traveled player, surprisingly only made two all-star games and never a champion. He should be another fun scenario to see how the voting goes. Didn't hit for average, but had power and speed. And how much weight does retiring in the Top 5 of HR's carry?
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Bob Baker, SP New York
His last two seasons in Detroit were nightmarish and hampered his numbers tremendously. Going 11-40 over a two-year span will do that. But look past that and you see 13 straight seasons of double-digit wins and nearly 3,000 strikeouts and a sub-4 career ERA, including the Detroit years.
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Lou Bartlett, SP Philadelphia
Bartlett just missed out on the exclusive 200-win and 3,000-K clubs, finishing his career with 196 wins and 2849 strikeouts. His numbers side-by-side are very comparable to Bob Baker's. In fact, if you know of Bill Jame's similarity scores, Baker is #1 on Bartlett's list with 933. Never flourished in the post-season except 2017 when he went 4-1 when leading the Cheesesteaks to a title. He also won a title as a 19-year old rookie with the Launch in 2010.
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George Bechtel, SP Albany
Very underrated pitcher, who together with Elliott, formed one of the premier 1-2 punches for a long time with Albany. Only made the All-Star game once. 186 career wins rank 8th all time. Also ranks 7th in pitcher WAR and 3rd in CG. Won the 2014 World Series. He led the league in wins twice, including seasons of 20-4 and 18-3.
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Bartolo Benavides, RP Vancouver (Seattle)
Devastating stuff for this relief specialist. Nearly unhittable throughout his career, ranking 17th in k/9 and 8th in career WHIP. Also ranks 4th in career ERA. Was selected to All-Star game 4 times.
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Bob Elliott, SP Albany
One of twenty-one members of the 150-win club. The ace of the rotation of the decade's best team. 5 time all-star, 2011 Seaver winner, 2-time World Series winner, fourth all-time in complete games, and a two-time 20-game winner. Still ranks 11th in VORP & 13th in WAR despite being retired for six seasons.
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Tony Foster, RP San Antonio (Hartford)
Foster played 15 seasons in the NDL. Won the Seaver award in 2012 with Carolina before signing with Hartford as a free agent. Spent a decade in hitter-friendly Hartford and was a rock there. Allowed just 1 run on a HR in 18 career post-season appearances.
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Alejandro Gallo, RP Albany
His numbers might be higher if he didn't spend two seasons mid-career in the USBL, but he did join the elite 300-save club in his final game. Led the league in saves three seasons, was a two-time all-star and 2011 World Champion with Albany. 14 career post-season saves and a 0.68 career era in the post-season.
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Steven Hays, SP Port Orange
Everyone should know the deal with him. No pun intended with "deal" there. Just going to run off Hays accomplishments.... 4-time Champ, 4-time Seaver Award winner, 9-time All-Star, 2014 ROTY, 5-time 20-game winner, 1 No-Hitter, All-Time Strikeout leader with 3,217, 2nd all-time in wins with 234 along with a career winning pct. of .661, All-Time Post-season Strikeout leader, 2nd all-time in post-season wins, and 3-time Pitching Triple Crown winner. Did I miss anything?
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Oliver Ladd, SP Port Orange
Another pitcher that everyone should know the story with. Career leader in Wins, CG, SHO, VORP, and WAR. 2nd in K's. Won the 2012 Pitching Triple Crown with Texas before moving to Port Orange and becoming a 4-time champion. Led the league in ERA twice... 11 years apart. 2012 & 2023. Won the Seaver award twice while being selected to 9 All-Star games. Post-season? He won the Morris Trophy twice.
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Lawrence Vickers, SP Colorado (New England)
If Vickers retired on his 20th birthday, his 76* wins as a teenager would still rank him in the Top 100. Came into the league as a 16-year old and posted 6 straight seasons of 16+ wins. Had a bit of a resurgence late in his career with Toronto(Miami). Had a very balanced repertoire. He could strike you out, ranking 33rd in career K's, but was also known for a very good sinker. He was Top 10 in GB% 6 times in his career.
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The Charts...

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^^Career totals^^

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^^test scores^^

A further breakdown of what the test scores entail could be found by clicking on the link.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/about ... sary.shtml

Ink tests measure leaderboard appearances. Standards score is 100 max, 50 is supposedly average HOF'er. Monitor score is suppose to tell likelihood of induction, not if deserved. 100 is very likely, 130 is a virtual cinch.

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^^career ranks for batters &pitchers.^^
--Blue = top 10, green = top 25.
--Era(s) is ranking of era out of the 253 starters with at least 100 career NDL starts
--Purple-colored boxes for Gallo and Benavides are where they rank among qualifiers. They don't qualify since the minimum was raised to 769IP

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^^ Relievers don't have a Hall of Fame standards score, as they don't have any set standards, so I put up a chart of the 5 MLB relievers in the HOF and 3 most likely to get in at the end, if you wish to compare.^^

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^^--162 game averages for all batters.
--Suarez's numbers include a brief 30-game stint in USBL and Shini includes 877 games in NPB & USBL. There is no way to separate those in game.
-- A chart with the 162 game averages of the last 21 batters(including Frank Thomas) inducted in MLB HOF is in spoiler tag for comparison^^
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Note to everyone... please lobby for your guys, any added info helps.
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Port Orange get the ceremony ready
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Please let someone send in a no vote :lol:
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Voted So Far (14)
Miami
Boston
Indianapolis
San Antonio
Detroit
Albany
Port Orange
Honolulu
Washington
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Winterfell
Alabama
New England
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Bernie32 wrote:Voted So Far (8)
Miami
Boston
Indianapolis
San Antonio
Detroit
Albany
Port Orange
Honolulu
I will get my vote in today
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If the PO trio of Ladd, Hays, and Ruiz don't get in then somethings wrong. Could very well see 4-5 enshrined on this ballot.
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S15: Wake 8-5
S16-21: Washington 9-4, 10-3, 8-5, 9-4, 7-6, 6-7
S22: Ohio 8-5
S23: ECU 12-2
S24-26: Kentucky 8-5, 5-7, 5-7
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shel311 wrote:Please let someone send in a no vote :lol:
with your history of voting, does a non-vote count?
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Uuaww wrote:
shel311 wrote:Please let someone send in a no vote :lol:
with your history of voting, does a non-vote count?

I sent blank ballot. Got a problem ?

Not. Actually 1st year, That there was 2 that were a lock for me.
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i understand that people have their own opinions, but if minimum 1 person on this list doesnt make your HOF list, you shouldnt be allowed to vote ever.
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nick wrote:i understand that people have their own opinions, but if minimum 1 person on this list doesnt make your HOF list, you shouldnt be allowed to vote ever.

there are 5 HOFers on that list at least
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ajalves wrote:
nick wrote:i understand that people have their own opinions, but if minimum 1 person on this list doesnt make your HOF list, you shouldnt be allowed to vote ever.

there are 5 HOFers on that list at least

This.

And I would boost Nick's to at least two. There is no argument against two people on that list, very little argument against two others.
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S14: N Texas 7-1
S15: Wake 8-5
S16-21: Washington 9-4, 10-3, 8-5, 9-4, 7-6, 6-7
S22: Ohio 8-5
S23: ECU 12-2
S24-26: Kentucky 8-5, 5-7, 5-7
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jsence2 wrote:
ajalves wrote:
nick wrote:i understand that people have their own opinions, but if minimum 1 person on this list doesnt make your HOF list, you shouldnt be allowed to vote ever.

there are 5 HOFers on that list at least

This.

And I would boost Nick's to at least two. There is no argument against two people on that list, very little argument against two others.
I can see questions to Ruiz and Valles.


The big questions to me is if Ruiz makes it is what hat he wears... If all 4 of those make it, they could be all wearing Port Orange hats.
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Uuaww wrote:
jsence2 wrote:
ajalves wrote:
nick wrote:i understand that people have their own opinions, but if minimum 1 person on this list doesnt make your HOF list, you shouldnt be allowed to vote ever.

there are 5 HOFers on that list at least

This.

And I would boost Nick's to at least two. There is no argument against two people on that list, very little argument against two others.
I can see questions to Ruiz and Valles.


The big questions to me is if Ruiz makes it is what hat he wears... If all 4 of those make it, they could be all wearing Port Orange hats.

Ruiz goes in as Port Orange hat with a Louisville pin on the brim. He had possibly his best season with us (.313/33/115 in only 460 AB, but the bulk of his career damage was done w PO.

As for an argument against him.....not counting his 20 game first season, he played 10 years. He averaged 32 HR over those ten years, in an average of 510 AB.

In those same 510 AB per year, he averaged 25.2 K. That's a strikeout every 20.23 AB, and a HR every 15.93 AB. For a power hitter, those numbers are amazing. So is a walk-to-strikeout ratio for his career of 3-to-1. His total numbers will always be less than some players due to him going unsigned at age 34 and then retiring, but I'd wager if we matched his numbers over anybody over a 10 year span in the NDL history, they're gonna be right there.

As for Valles, I cannot understand how he can be one vote shy one year, and then get less than half the vote the next. He's a HOFer.
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S14: N Texas 7-1
S15: Wake 8-5
S16-21: Washington 9-4, 10-3, 8-5, 9-4, 7-6, 6-7
S22: Ohio 8-5
S23: ECU 12-2
S24-26: Kentucky 8-5, 5-7, 5-7
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jsence2 wrote:
As for Valles, I cannot understand how he can be one vote shy one year, and then get less than half the vote the next. He's a HOFer.
I think you're reading it backwards. He went from less than half to one vote shy.
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Bernie32 wrote:
jsence2 wrote:
As for Valles, I cannot understand how he can be one vote shy one year, and then get less than half the vote the next. He's a HOFer.
I think you're reading it backwards. He went from less than half to one vote shy.

You're right, my mistake. That said, he's an HOF on numbers alone.

And I agree w what Ted said--lobby away. It's hard to look at pure numbers for some of these guys when you realize that some guys did them in 10 years, some did them in 15, some did them in 20. Context helps. Having things that aren't obvious being pointed out (like Ruiz unreal low Ks) helps. Make a case for or against.
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S15: Wake 8-5
S16-21: Washington 9-4, 10-3, 8-5, 9-4, 7-6, 6-7
S22: Ohio 8-5
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S24-26: Kentucky 8-5, 5-7, 5-7
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Rojas, all day!!!
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Voted So Far (15)
Miami
Boston
Indianapolis
San Antonio
Detroit
Albany
Port Orange
Honolulu
Washington
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Winterfell
Alabama
New England
Las Vegas


Waiting On (14)
New York
Sheltown
Houston
Chicago
Vancouver
Steel City
South Dakota
Omaha
Philadelphia
Toronto
Texas
South Park
Phoenix
Lake Elsinore
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Just sent my vote in. Will make rob vote today or I will make him do some pushups
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