2021 Official Hall of Fame Ballot
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2021 Official Hall of Fame Ballot
The first requirement of the MLB Hall of Fame is 10 years of service. That is out the window for now or else our ballot would consist of only Carl Nordahl. Most of our ballot would consist of what would probably be called "peak" candidates as quite simply, they don't have the time to compile the great stats that you see from MLB Hall-of-Fame. I have no problem with that. I personally would rather see Dale Murphy or Don Mattingly in the MLB HoF, guys who were great for a short time rather than a Don Sutton, a guy that just compiled stats over a long era, but never dominated. But everyone is entitled to their opinion and I am sure our inaugural induction class (version 2.0) will be short, if any.
I tried to come up with a ballot of 10 batters and 10 pitchers, it was tough and some guys are a real stretch. With some guys starting to play at anywhere from ages 34 to 37, losing very good players to the USBL, injuries, and our collective managing/GM styles.. the pickings were slim. Hopefully we see better candidates as seasons go by.
I have included with each nominee..
- a brief rundown
-only their NDL stats (regular and post-season)
-their black and grey ink scores
-their Hall of Fame standards score
-their Hall of Fame monitor score
http://www.baseball-reference.com/about ... sary.shtml
Ink tests measure leaderboard appearances. Standards score is 100 max, 50 is supposedly average HOF'er. Monitor score is suppose to tell likelihood of induction, not if deserved. 100 is very likely, 130 is a virtual cinch. Relievers don't have a Hall of Fame standards score, as they don't have any set standards, so I put up a chart of the 5 MLB relievers in the HOF and 3 most likely to get in at the end if you wish to compare.
Voting process and rules are as follows..
--You can PM me your ballot or post it here in this thread. Forum only allows for 10 poll options. Plus no way to track.
--No waiting period after retirement
--75% of all votes received will get a player in. 5% to carry over to next election, 15 seasons max. **Everyone is grandfathered in, this is year 1 for everyone, unless Trendon has results from previous HOF voting**
--You can vote for zero to ten players, but please vote, even if it's a blank ballot.
Corey Bowden, RF Albany
Black-Ink: 11
Grey-Ink: 64
Standard: 21
Monitor: 52
Six year run in Albany, he was arguably the top 3 offensive forces in the game. Won two titles with the Wild Ones. Ranks second among retirees in HR's and RBI's.
Manny Diaz, C Philadelphia
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 4
Standard: 43
Monitor: 38
.312 career average for this backstop. Won championships with two teams, Steel City in 2013 and Philly in 2017, although injured. All-Star in 2017.
Don Douglas, RF/1B NorCal
Black-Ink: 13
Grey-Ink: 97
Standard: 35.5
Monitor: 109
A freak broken kneecap on a non-scheduled sim derailed his career, but his numbers in NorCal are still quite impressive. 4-time All-Star, 2012 HOTY, a .319 career average and one of three retired batters with 200+ HR's.
David Durham, C Pittsburgh (Denver)
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 17
Standard: 33
Monitor: 18
Our second catcher on the ballot, while Diaz was about contact, Durham was about the pop. One of the most prolofic power hitting catchers of his era, he made the All-Star squad 4 times.
Carl Nordahl, 2B Toronto
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 10
Standard: 28
Monitor: 19.5
Nordahl is our only full-time middle infielder on the ballot. his numbers may not stack up well against the rest of the ballot, but they do against the middle-infielders of his era. Won a Gold Glove in 2012.
Bill Olson, LF/1B Sheltown
Black-Ink: 7
Grey-Ink: 35
Standard: 29.5
Monitor: 43.5
Career .307 batter. Won a Gold Glove in 2010. Came into the league in his prime at 27 in 2010 and enjoyed his best year that year. Lost to the USBL in 2016.
Juan Ortiz, DH/LF Dallas (Miami)
Black-Ink: 21
Grey-Ink: 60
Standard: 17.5
Monitor: 61.5
One of the premier power-hitters of his era, lost 2 seasons in the middle of his career to the USBL. Led the AL in homers AND doubles in the same year twice. All-Star in 2010.
Bill Pickett, CF/LF Steel City
Black-Ink: 23
Grey-Ink: 109
Standard: 36.5
Monitor: 72
One of the most consistent producers year to year. 2013 was a special season from him that may not be duplicated. All-Star, won the triple crown, HOTY, and World Series title in the same season. Only missed out on playoff MVP. Won a Gold Glove in 2016. Leads all retired batters in HR's, RBI's, runs, and walks. Came into the league at 30.
Ramon Sotelo, CF NorCal
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 40
Standard: 40
Monitor: 31
Our only speedster on the ballot. Narrowly missed .300 for his career, but was a legitimate five-tool threat. Went to USBL in his prime and was "retired" when USBL was nuked. All-Star in 2014, won the HOTY in 2015 and a World Series in 2015 with NorCal.
Joe Telvest, 2B/DH/1B Ohio (Carolina)
Black-Ink: 18
Grey-Ink: 35
Standard: 37
Monitor: 109
The Roy Hobbs of our league. Came into the league at 37 and dominated. 2011 Triple crown winner, back-to-back HOTY's in 2011 and 2012. Playoff MVP and World Series title in 2012. 3-time All-Star for the career .336 hitter.
Pedro Enriquez, SP New England
Black-Ink: 6
Grey-Ink: 59
Standard: 20
Monitor: 37
Came into the league at 33 and dominated in New England. 2011 won the Seaver Trophy and the Morris Playoff MVP in a losing effort. Made the All-Star team twice in four seasons.
Jeff Hunter, SP Concordia
Black-Ink: 1
Grey-Ink: 74
Standard: 19
Monitor: 19
3-time All-Star also won a Gold Glove award once. Very effective pitcher in his early 30's before leaving for USBL.
Alex Thomas, SP New York
Black-Ink: 17
Grey-Ink: 68
Standard: 16
Monitor: 23.5
Came into the league at 36 and was an All-Star in 2010. High stamina make them miss knuckleballer for the Launch. Won a World Series in 2010 with New York.
Kurt Warner, SP New England
Black-Ink: 5
Grey-Ink: 52
Standard: 7
Monitor: 23
Warner leads all retirees in K's, the southpaw was on the leaderboard for 6 straight seasons. All-Star in 2010.
Jimmy Dudley, RP Ohio (Carolina)
Black-Ink: 1
Grey-Ink: 9
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 36
Career cut short in 2020 by injury. Middle relief man sported a sub-3 era for his career. Turned closer his final two seasons. 2-time All-Star and 2012 champ with Carolina.
Rich Harrington, RP NorCal
Black-Ink: 6
Grey-Ink: 21
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 74
NDL's career ERA leader was a 4-time All-Star and 2010 Tom Seaver Trophy winner. Won a World Series title in 2015 and his postseason ERA is about half of his record regular season ERA. Lost to the USBL at the age of 34.
Tim Jones, RP Steel City
Black-Ink: 3
Grey-Ink: 18
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 27
Another casualty to the USBL at the age of 30. Then retired when it was nuked. 5-time All-Star was a mainstay for years on the saves leaderboard and won a World Series with Steel City in 2013.
Mauro Lewis, RP New England
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 3
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 23
Dominant middle reliever. His sabermetrics are extraordinary, but he played more time in the USBL than NDL. Retired when USBL was nuked. Sported sub-2 era his first 3 seasons until turning closer his final season.
Tony Ortiz, RP Port Orange
Black-Ink: 6
Grey-Ink: 18
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 54
The all-time single season saves record holder was a 3-time All-Star for the Hawks. He won a title with Port Orange in 2016. Leads all retirees with 231 career saves.
Rob Towns, RP New England
Black-Ink: 3
Grey-Ink: 9
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 39
He came into the NDL at the age that most teams let players go, 34. Lights out for 3 seasons on New England's back end. 3 All-Star selections in 4 seasons and 1 Tom Seaver Trophy. Lewis-Towns was as automatic as it gets in the NDL's early history.
^^HOW OUR RELIEVERS COMPARE TO MLB HOF'ers^^
^^TEST SCORES^^
^^Career ranks for batters. Top 10 in blue, top 25 in green.^^
I tried to come up with a ballot of 10 batters and 10 pitchers, it was tough and some guys are a real stretch. With some guys starting to play at anywhere from ages 34 to 37, losing very good players to the USBL, injuries, and our collective managing/GM styles.. the pickings were slim. Hopefully we see better candidates as seasons go by.
I have included with each nominee..
- a brief rundown
-only their NDL stats (regular and post-season)
-their black and grey ink scores
-their Hall of Fame standards score
-their Hall of Fame monitor score
http://www.baseball-reference.com/about ... sary.shtml
Ink tests measure leaderboard appearances. Standards score is 100 max, 50 is supposedly average HOF'er. Monitor score is suppose to tell likelihood of induction, not if deserved. 100 is very likely, 130 is a virtual cinch. Relievers don't have a Hall of Fame standards score, as they don't have any set standards, so I put up a chart of the 5 MLB relievers in the HOF and 3 most likely to get in at the end if you wish to compare.
Voting process and rules are as follows..
--You can PM me your ballot or post it here in this thread. Forum only allows for 10 poll options. Plus no way to track.
--No waiting period after retirement
--75% of all votes received will get a player in. 5% to carry over to next election, 15 seasons max. **Everyone is grandfathered in, this is year 1 for everyone, unless Trendon has results from previous HOF voting**
--You can vote for zero to ten players, but please vote, even if it's a blank ballot.
Corey Bowden, RF Albany
Black-Ink: 11
Grey-Ink: 64
Standard: 21
Monitor: 52
Six year run in Albany, he was arguably the top 3 offensive forces in the game. Won two titles with the Wild Ones. Ranks second among retirees in HR's and RBI's.
Manny Diaz, C Philadelphia
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 4
Standard: 43
Monitor: 38
.312 career average for this backstop. Won championships with two teams, Steel City in 2013 and Philly in 2017, although injured. All-Star in 2017.
Don Douglas, RF/1B NorCal
Black-Ink: 13
Grey-Ink: 97
Standard: 35.5
Monitor: 109
A freak broken kneecap on a non-scheduled sim derailed his career, but his numbers in NorCal are still quite impressive. 4-time All-Star, 2012 HOTY, a .319 career average and one of three retired batters with 200+ HR's.
David Durham, C Pittsburgh (Denver)
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 17
Standard: 33
Monitor: 18
Our second catcher on the ballot, while Diaz was about contact, Durham was about the pop. One of the most prolofic power hitting catchers of his era, he made the All-Star squad 4 times.
Carl Nordahl, 2B Toronto
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 10
Standard: 28
Monitor: 19.5
Nordahl is our only full-time middle infielder on the ballot. his numbers may not stack up well against the rest of the ballot, but they do against the middle-infielders of his era. Won a Gold Glove in 2012.
Bill Olson, LF/1B Sheltown
Black-Ink: 7
Grey-Ink: 35
Standard: 29.5
Monitor: 43.5
Career .307 batter. Won a Gold Glove in 2010. Came into the league in his prime at 27 in 2010 and enjoyed his best year that year. Lost to the USBL in 2016.
Juan Ortiz, DH/LF Dallas (Miami)
Black-Ink: 21
Grey-Ink: 60
Standard: 17.5
Monitor: 61.5
One of the premier power-hitters of his era, lost 2 seasons in the middle of his career to the USBL. Led the AL in homers AND doubles in the same year twice. All-Star in 2010.
Bill Pickett, CF/LF Steel City
Black-Ink: 23
Grey-Ink: 109
Standard: 36.5
Monitor: 72
One of the most consistent producers year to year. 2013 was a special season from him that may not be duplicated. All-Star, won the triple crown, HOTY, and World Series title in the same season. Only missed out on playoff MVP. Won a Gold Glove in 2016. Leads all retired batters in HR's, RBI's, runs, and walks. Came into the league at 30.
Ramon Sotelo, CF NorCal
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 40
Standard: 40
Monitor: 31
Our only speedster on the ballot. Narrowly missed .300 for his career, but was a legitimate five-tool threat. Went to USBL in his prime and was "retired" when USBL was nuked. All-Star in 2014, won the HOTY in 2015 and a World Series in 2015 with NorCal.
Joe Telvest, 2B/DH/1B Ohio (Carolina)
Black-Ink: 18
Grey-Ink: 35
Standard: 37
Monitor: 109
The Roy Hobbs of our league. Came into the league at 37 and dominated. 2011 Triple crown winner, back-to-back HOTY's in 2011 and 2012. Playoff MVP and World Series title in 2012. 3-time All-Star for the career .336 hitter.
Pedro Enriquez, SP New England
Black-Ink: 6
Grey-Ink: 59
Standard: 20
Monitor: 37
Came into the league at 33 and dominated in New England. 2011 won the Seaver Trophy and the Morris Playoff MVP in a losing effort. Made the All-Star team twice in four seasons.
Jeff Hunter, SP Concordia
Black-Ink: 1
Grey-Ink: 74
Standard: 19
Monitor: 19
3-time All-Star also won a Gold Glove award once. Very effective pitcher in his early 30's before leaving for USBL.
Alex Thomas, SP New York
Black-Ink: 17
Grey-Ink: 68
Standard: 16
Monitor: 23.5
Came into the league at 36 and was an All-Star in 2010. High stamina make them miss knuckleballer for the Launch. Won a World Series in 2010 with New York.
Kurt Warner, SP New England
Black-Ink: 5
Grey-Ink: 52
Standard: 7
Monitor: 23
Warner leads all retirees in K's, the southpaw was on the leaderboard for 6 straight seasons. All-Star in 2010.
Jimmy Dudley, RP Ohio (Carolina)
Black-Ink: 1
Grey-Ink: 9
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 36
Career cut short in 2020 by injury. Middle relief man sported a sub-3 era for his career. Turned closer his final two seasons. 2-time All-Star and 2012 champ with Carolina.
Rich Harrington, RP NorCal
Black-Ink: 6
Grey-Ink: 21
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 74
NDL's career ERA leader was a 4-time All-Star and 2010 Tom Seaver Trophy winner. Won a World Series title in 2015 and his postseason ERA is about half of his record regular season ERA. Lost to the USBL at the age of 34.
Tim Jones, RP Steel City
Black-Ink: 3
Grey-Ink: 18
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 27
Another casualty to the USBL at the age of 30. Then retired when it was nuked. 5-time All-Star was a mainstay for years on the saves leaderboard and won a World Series with Steel City in 2013.
Mauro Lewis, RP New England
Black-Ink: 0
Grey-Ink: 3
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 23
Dominant middle reliever. His sabermetrics are extraordinary, but he played more time in the USBL than NDL. Retired when USBL was nuked. Sported sub-2 era his first 3 seasons until turning closer his final season.
Tony Ortiz, RP Port Orange
Black-Ink: 6
Grey-Ink: 18
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 54
The all-time single season saves record holder was a 3-time All-Star for the Hawks. He won a title with Port Orange in 2016. Leads all retirees with 231 career saves.
Rob Towns, RP New England
Black-Ink: 3
Grey-Ink: 9
Standard: n/a
Monitor: 39
He came into the NDL at the age that most teams let players go, 34. Lights out for 3 seasons on New England's back end. 3 All-Star selections in 4 seasons and 1 Tom Seaver Trophy. Lewis-Towns was as automatic as it gets in the NDL's early history.
^^HOW OUR RELIEVERS COMPARE TO MLB HOF'ers^^
^^TEST SCORES^^
^^Career ranks for batters. Top 10 in blue, top 25 in green.^^
Last edited by Bernie32 on Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 2021 Official Hall of Fame Ballot
awesome work man.
those old New England teams were fun
those old New England teams were fun
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Nice work Bernie!
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Hartford
Round Rock
New England
Albany
Ohio
Philadelphia
Hartford
Round Rock
New England
Albany
Ohio
Philadelphia
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I'll look at this today at work or tonight when I get off. Way too much information to process at once.
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To add to the "Last Sim" tab that I loved about StatsLab, I also loved that when looking at a player's page, any time he led the league in a category, that category was bolded.
And even better, under his career stats for every category, it would show his all time rank. That would actually be really helpful when voting for the Hall of Fame, as it would help put some of those numbers into perspective a little better.
StatsLab, you are missed by me.
And even better, under his career stats for every category, it would show his all time rank. That would actually be really helpful when voting for the Hall of Fame, as it would help put some of those numbers into perspective a little better.
StatsLab, you are missed by me.
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Bernie..nicely done man.
real nice.
real nice.
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see dave, im not tired of Bernie's hard work
Re: 2021 Official Hall of Fame Ballot
you will be eventually, YOU'LL SEE!ajalves wrote:see dave, im not tired of Bernie's hard work
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what happened to Sotelo from NorCal...he just retired at age 29?
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Me too. Don't care enough about the hall of fame and wouldn't be fair for me to vote.tball275 wrote:Blank ballot from me.
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Wait, then it's better for you to not vote as opposed to a blank ballot.Cnasty wrote:Me too. Don't care enough about the hall of fame and wouldn't be fair for me to vote.tball275 wrote:Blank ballot from me.
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Ok,whichever it's called where it doesn't affect anything. That's the one
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Cnasty wrote:Ok,whichever it's called where it doesn't affect anything. That's the one
Yea, a blank ballot counts as a vote, and guys need 75% of the votes that are tallied, so you're better off not voting at all.
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went to USBL, then got retired when it was nukedajalves wrote:what happened to Sotelo from NorCal...he just retired at age 29?
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Hartford
Round Rock
New England
Albany
Ohio
Philadelphia
SoCal
Chicago LOL
Steel City
Hartford
Round Rock
New England
Albany
Ohio
Philadelphia
SoCal
Chicago LOL
Steel City
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Definitely gonna vote, just trying to find time to really go through all of these guys.
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where do i vote at?
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Pulling a Shelajalves wrote:where do i vote at?