Run/Passing Play calling

[Mtwasik]

I know there have been people that have been complained about sometimes for running the ball to much in their NDL games. I thought of that when I read this today.

"The Navy Midshipmen became the first major college football team to win a game without attempting a pass in 11 years. They ran the ball 77 times for 412 yards in a 34-7 time-of-possession nightmare against SMU (42:32). It is believed to be the first such time that Navy has done that in 60 years of keeping passing stats.

Apparently none of the service academies appreciate the forward pass as earlier this season Air Force beat Houston 31-28 without completing a pass (Shea Smith was 0-7) and Army beat Eastern Michigan 17-13 (Chip Bowden was 0-3). "

[VeniVediV1ci]

i got dinged on coaches reports for it

[ChampDizzle]

I wonder if June Jones regrets leaving Hawaii now? SMU really stinks!

[fsupenguin]

Reality does not always translate into what you want to see in league games, take this quote from the current GT coach I read in the AJC a couple weeks back.
"Our game plan is simply keep running a play till the opponent can stop it. If they cannot then we will run it all game long."

I think I speak for 90%+ of us when I say that would get you some low coaches scores doing that.

[Mtwasik]

Reality does not always translate into what you want to see in league games, take this quote from the current GT coach I read in the AJC a couple weeks back.
"Our game plan is simply keep running a play till the opponent can stop it. If they cannot then we will run it all game long."

I think I speak for 90%+ of us when I say that would get you some low coaches scores doing that.

Of course, we shouldn't run the same play every single time, not trying to say that. But if you use say 10 different types of run plays, sometimes its up to the other team to find out a way to stop you, unless you're just taking advantage of AI flaws, that's not what I was saying.

[fsupenguin]

Reality does not always translate into what you want to see in league games, take this quote from the current GT coach I read in the AJC a couple weeks back.
"Our game plan is simply keep running a play till the opponent can stop it. If they cannot then we will run it all game long."

I think I speak for 90%+ of us when I say that would get you some low coaches scores doing that.

Of course, we shouldn't run the same play every single time, not trying to say that. But if you use say 10 different types of run plays, sometimes its up to the other team to find out a way to stop you, unless you're just taking advantage of AI flaws, that's not what I was saying.

I understand dude, I wasn't shooting back at your post at all. If someone wants to use a run heavy playbook and give pound the rock all game long I am 100% cool with it as long as they are using all the playbook and the same couple plays over and over again, the same for passing as well.

[Matt90210]

I agree with this post.

Some people just want to be in a soap opera and this league is their only shot.

Quit yer bitchin

[relio95]

It really should nt be a big problem. If your a coach and your not rubbing it in then whats the beef. The opponent is suppose to stop you. I f Navy is running option you gotta stop it. Then he stops running and throws a pic. Cause his recievers are not that good. Thats crazy when we all know some teams strength is the run. I cant get mad if I dont stop it. He was just the man that day.

[Quest4Gold]

Well, I had one comment that I used the option and playaction too much. I had West Virginia with a 93 speed qb and a 97 speed halfback. Now I also led the league in rushing so of course playaction would take part in it. I actually only ran playaction at the most 3 times in one game. My 2nd season here, I played a higher up and he ran playaction against me 7 times and I saw nothing against it. I was coming up on the run hard and of course you should run play action to keep me back on my heels. Plus with my option, I ran a lot of gives to my halfback out of the spread and I mixed up the option calls. I ran them all from qb zone to slot option, triple option wr option, you name it. I ran it.

[vicktim7]

always about perception, and we just don't know what the other guy is thinking. this is why some prefer headset games.

i have a question for the headset guys. have you ever took time during the game to tell someone they were doing something too much? if not, have you ever knocked them down on coaches reports even though you didn't say anything? just wondering. hard to come out here and say that you may have done it, but you never know.

as long as it's being mixed up, i.e. not the same play all game, i enjoy playing different play styles. some opponents have went with pro style offenses, and some have went run heavy. others have went pass heavy. the last game of the season against utah was probably the most fun game i played all year, and he was working the pass all game long. he said he got dinged by some for it, but he was spreading it around. even if someone feeds a beast all game (stud wr, rb, etc.), it shouldn't be an issue if the calls are mixed.

[Seeitsaveit13]

Reality does not always translate into what you want to see in league games, take this quote from the current GT coach I read in the AJC a couple weeks back.
"Our game plan is simply keep running a play till the opponent can stop it. If they cannot then we will run it all game long."

Coincidently, that's PJ lol. Former Navy coach

[VTrunNgun]

Reality does not always translate into what you want to see in league games, take this quote from the current GT coach I read in the AJC a couple weeks back.
"Our game plan is simply keep running a play till the opponent can stop it. If they cannot then we will run it all game long."

Coincidently, that's PJ lol. Former Navy coach

Hmmmmmm....Flexbone, Wishbone, Power T's...Ohhhh My

Might have to check out a few pages of that lil playbook PJ has at GT...Hope no one minds

[Matt90210]

always about perception, and we just don't know what the other guy is thinking. this is why some prefer headset games.

i have a question for the headset guys. have you ever took time during the game to tell someone they were doing something too much? if not, have you ever knocked them down on coaches reports even though you didn't say anything? just wondering. hard to come out here and say that you may have done it, but you never know.

as long as it's being mixed up, i.e. not the same play all game, i enjoy playing different play styles. some opponents have went with pro style offenses, and some have went run heavy. others have went pass heavy. the last game of the season against utah was probably the most fun game i played all year, and he was working the pass all game long. he said he got dinged by some for it, but he was spreading it around. even if someone feeds a beast all game (stud wr, rb, etc.), it shouldn't be an issue if the calls are mixed.

I started reading this post when I noticed the icon but then saw it wasn't Nole and I stopped.

I kid Tim. You're my boy!

[fsupenguin]

Reality does not always translate into what you want to see in league games, take this quote from the current GT coach I read in the AJC a couple weeks back.
"Our game plan is simply keep running a play till the opponent can stop it. If they cannot then we will run it all game long."

Coincidently, that's PJ lol. Former Navy coach

Right on lol, I knew that, it totally skipped my mind.

[BigStimpin]

We should just take out all the guess work and make it a pass only league.

[beercop]

As long as you are not abusing the ai then i will not ding you on a coaching report. everyone i played this past year graded perfect and I can't remember when i dinged someone. I could care less what plays you run, it's my job to stop it.

On another note, I only had one comment on my coaching reports and it was good. In the past at least had 7 or 8 comments on the low end. I leave a comment on everyone i play, I think it's just being a good coach in the league. Kind of like the hand shake at the end of a game. Am I the only one who does this?

[USMarine7t]

In 4 whole seasons here I have only received 2 comments on my coaches report. 1 this season and 1 last season. My coaches report grades are always good so I take it as a good thing.

I also give a short comment to everyone i play to backup the grades I give. I have never had to "ding" anyone as everyone I have played so far have been very legitimate in their gameplay.

In some losses though I have "slept on it" as sometimes close losses can be very frustrating and its only human nature for your opponent to go to his Money Maker plays to get that last 1st down, kill the clock or score. I mean we all wanna win and losing Sucks Donkey Balls! I have always found that when I get on the next day to write my recap and grade my opponent my head is alot clearer and give him the respect he deserves for the win. I do fear that alot of grades get handed out in frustration after a close loss or blowout when you are pissed just as much at your own playcalling as your opponents which in the end just ends up screwing them over for draft position and end of year grades.

Just my 2 pesos on the subjecto!

[Weasel]

its only human nature for your opponent to go to his Money Maker plays to get that last 1st down, kill the clock or score.

Isnt that the point of having a reliable play that your comfortable with, something to 'hang your hat on'?

[Ry]

Same discussion different season....

I say go play the east room and you will see why these rules are in place. We don't have guys using wrs as their qb in the wildcat formation all game, or rolling out each and every play with the fastest qb in the game. The majority of the time every player in this league plays a quality game and if that involves going to their strengths then why should they get dinged?

Only when it looks pretty clear my opponent is taking advantage of AI flaws will a grade be lowered.

It really is important for each opponent to know the other team before you pass judgement as to why your opponent did what he did.

For example I am guessing I may have gotten dinged somewhat on the playcall front with CSU but I had to slow running backs whose strength was running right up the gut. It was nearly impossible for me to get outside with those two-thus limiting my variety in run calls I chose.

My fastest wr was 87 and the qb i used had arm power of 86...thus hard to stretch the field with what I had. My kicker was a 50 something so Id rather go for it than risk missing a fg. However every single thing I did was within the rules regarding what I mentioned above.

Just something people need to think about when you are wondering why your opponent does what he does.

[ChampDizzle]

The only thing that made be lower a report was using "high jump passes" 99% of the time and not showing sportsmanship when up big and not playing subs. Other than that, to each its own. Do what works for you with your team. But I agree that it is best to wait before doing a report cause emotions do run high. Me and a certain coach had a "heated" discussion right after which was not good, so this I apologize. But it was only due to the sub situation but it did open an unneccesary out of date can of worms.