nick wrote:btw im not pro something, anti something, Im pro living cause guess what people.. Heaven and Hell doesn't exist. God doesn't exist. Afterlife don't exist. When you get shot and killed, thats it. Darkness
Lol, says the guy that also says:
nick wrote:some of you people are showing some ugly true colors. you're not really humans, you just kind of live here.
*edit: Not trying to start anything nick, but you do say alot of things...
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Not the one with that screenshot, but if you watch the 2nd video, I really don't see how you can watch it and come to the conclusion that there was "no struggle" and it isn't plausible that he was making a play for his gun. Just don't see how you can't logically say it's plausible.
ya 2 overweight cops couldnt keep him down. lmao wtf. that 2nd cop looks like "omg hes dead" after unloading a round in him.. then yells "FUCK" as if he didnt know what he was doing
thankfully I'm Canadian so this shit happens maybe once every 5 yrs.
nick wrote:You dont think in that moment he knows hes 100% dead???? Why don't you people think logically for half a second? just think please. 2 cops ontop of a guy they just threw to the ground and tazed. hes probably stunned beyond belief but in that moment, this guy, getting fucked up, is able to in his mind, think logically and grab for his gun?
But your argument is that logically the cop started yelling about him having a gun and telling him to not go for the gun just to completely lie so they can murder the guy. Think about that logically for a second...
nick wrote:why do you guys assume hes pulling for his gun with 2 cops ontop of him!?!?!?!?
1. He has a gun.
2. The cop yells, "he's got a gun", and something else along the lines of, "don't go for the gun"
But you think it's crazy to think that MAYBE he was pulling for his gun?
nick wrote:Maybe getting TAZED was affecting his body? Maybe he was twitching and theyre like "hes going for his gun".
You're right, maybe. And maybe he was going for his gun.
There shouldn't be any maybes or could bes going around cause that then opens the door for shady shit to go down or the appearance of it.
nick wrote:ya 2 overweight cops couldnt keep him down.
300lb dude that 2 shots with a taser couldn't take down, but it should be super simple to not just take him down, but control his hands immediately within 5 seconds of taking him down?
Speaking of not living in this world, you're really not living in the real world if you don't think it's plausible for him to overpower 1 cop and get to his pocket.
Crowes wrote:
To me there shouldn't be any maybes or could bes going around.
I don't know what this means?
That if they hadn't tried to go act like linebackers and tackle a guy they knew was armed but wasn't threatening them with the gun. Then there would have been no he might have been or they felt like he was going for the gun in his pocket while struggling on ground. Now unless there is more video to definitely prove he wasnt going for the gun in his pocket the courts will take these two guys word for it when their aggressive tactics led to a man's death. It should be a cop's responsibility to resolve a situation like this by other means than violence.
Crowes wrote:Then there would be no maybe he was going for the gun in his pocket while struggling on ground with the cops.
We don't know how it would have ended had they chose another route, fwiw.
I've already said I'd much prefer after tasing, drawing a weapon and waiting for backup, but we don't know we wouldn't have ended the same way, with the suspect reaching for a weapon and being shot. Maybe it changes everything, maybe it ends similarly.
Crowes wrote:Then there would be no maybe he was going for the gun in his pocket while struggling on ground with the cops.
We don't know how it would have ended had they chose another route, fwiw.
I've already said I'd much prefer after tasing, drawing a weapon and waiting for backup, but we don't know we wouldn't have ended the same way, with the suspect reaching for a weapon and being shot. Maybe it changes everything, maybe it ends similarly.
One can reasonably assume that if they didnt start a struggle with this man he would be alive and in jail or at least his death wouldnt have so many questions around it.
What's funny is, I read about that and they talked about(can't recall exactly) but the number of workers it took and how long it took to build it. Something in the 100s and maybe a year or 2 to build.
But the story goes that Noah and a couple of dudes built a similar sized ark in I think 7 days.
It truly amazes how many people take every single story in the bible literally.
GeorgesGoons wrote:After seeing the video of the guy shooting at the cops, I would not be surprised to hear that these criminals were Fort Hood soldiers. The movement and his stance as he fired is very military like.
Good eye. Army reserve that had been in Afghanistan
That oopty ooo of shoot and run left to fake out and run right to shoot someone like that was not joe blow shooter guy
Cnasty wrote:That oopty ooo of shoot and run left to fake out and run right to shoot someone like that was not joe blow shooter guy
That was crazy, such a smart move.
It wasn't live, but I watched it play out on TV with no warning or nothing, they showed it. Pretty sure I jumped 2 feet from my bed freaking out, as I thought it was live when I was watching it.
Crowes wrote:Then there would be no maybe he was going for the gun in his pocket while struggling on ground with the cops.
We don't know how it would have ended had they chose another route, fwiw.
I've already said I'd much prefer after tasing, drawing a weapon and waiting for backup, but we don't know we wouldn't have ended the same way, with the suspect reaching for a weapon and being shot. Maybe it changes everything, maybe it ends similarly.
One can reasonably assume that if they didnt start a struggle with this man he would be alive and in jail or at least his death wouldnt have so many questions around it.
You can take one more step back and say if a convicted felon (haven't verified it myself but it's what I heard) wasn't waiving his gun at someone this would have never have happened also. There are a lot of ifs and ands to spin it any way someone wants. But it boils down to this man's actions to start this unfortunate chain of events. Not saying right or wrong on whether the cops should be let off but I am sure there are more to the story than what is shown so far. There are body cam videos that may exonerate or help convict these cops. I am thinking they will be exonerated due to the possibility of this guy going for his gun.
GeorgesGoons wrote:There are body cam videos that may exonerate or help convict these cops.
Yea, the body cam stuff can show the before.
From what I've read both body cams were on and recording but fell off during the struggle. I believe you can see one of the body cams on the ground immediately after the shooting.
dakshdar wrote:
For George. And, yes, a rap sheet doesn't sentence you to death. It is just a reference.
I wasn't saying since he was a convicted felon he has no right to live. I am all for felons getting a shot at righting the ship. My brother went to prison at 19 years old and got out at 29, hasn't gotten a speeding ticket since he got out. He knows he doesn't want to go back.
Agreed. The list that person tweeted was actually a little cut off.
Spoiler!
9/09/96 aggravated battery
10/31/97 2nd degree battery
1/06/98 simple battery
5/04/00 public intimidation
9/20/00 carnal knowledge of a juvenile
9/04/01 domestic violence
5/24/05 burglary of an inhabited dwelling place
7/11/05 receiving stolen things
9/12/05 burglary of inhabited dwelling place
3/17/06 simple criminal damage to property, simple robbery, simple theft, drug possession, misrepresentation during booking, simple battery, aggravated battery
4/12/06 aggravated battery, simple criminal damage to property, disturbing the peace, unauthorized entry
4/04/08 domestic abuse battery
6/03/09 resisting an officer, drug possession, receiving stolen things, possession of stolen firearm, illegal carrying of a weapon with CDs, sound reproduct without consent
10/12/09 illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
