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you remind me of the little, and i emphasize on little, fuckboy who always chirps when others are talking.Seeitsaveit13 wrote:Nick says a lot of things.dakshdar wrote:You've got nothing to say. Figures.
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Are you arguing that there wasn't a struggle?nick wrote:"I guess I'm somewhat shocked that people are surprised that a (many times over) convicted felon who was illegally carrying a concealed weapon, a weapon which was found by police during what appeared to be a struggle to arrest him for said weapon, was shot and killed."
this is fucking hysterical.

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Yea, any rational person will tell you there was absolutely a struggle going on.nick wrote:have YOU actually watched the video? cause it appears you havent
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so struggle = take someones life?
don't struggle in yuor life man, might lose it cause a guy trained to serve and protect cant protect.
also why are 2 men ontop of him? It's clear as day they cant control him? Maybe in the moment, he, like most people, would be like "why the fuck are 2 cops pushing on my head?"
Remember that Eric guy "I CANT BREATHE" who DIED cause he COULDN'T BREATHE!!!
I'm sure breathing is super easy with 2 cops hands draped over your hand and tazing you.
don't struggle in yuor life man, might lose it cause a guy trained to serve and protect cant protect.
also why are 2 men ontop of him? It's clear as day they cant control him? Maybe in the moment, he, like most people, would be like "why the fuck are 2 cops pushing on my head?"
Remember that Eric guy "I CANT BREATHE" who DIED cause he COULDN'T BREATHE!!!
I'm sure breathing is super easy with 2 cops hands draped over your hand and tazing you.
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Oh, so like a smaller, and I agree with smaller, version of you? Whose entire existence on this board is to chirp?nick wrote:you remind me of the little, and i emphasize on little, fuckboy who always chirps when others are talking.Seeitsaveit13 wrote:Nick says a lot of things.dakshdar wrote:You've got nothing to say. Figures.




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It was just as horrible as the other instances but the system worked in that case the cop went to prison for it but what gets tensions running high are the all times when that doesn't happen or it doesnt seem like it's gonna happen.shel311 wrote:Pretty sure this is also correct.Crowes wrote:I think that cop went to jail also.
But I'm not sure where we're going with that.

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If the struggle is going for a gun, which is very possible here, then Yea. Which part of that would you disagree with?nick wrote:so struggle = take someones life?
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So cops struggling with someone that they have verified is armed, and in the course of the struggle believe he's going for the weapon are supposed to...?
Ask him to please not pull out his gun and start firing? Do you want rules of engagement that require the cops to be shot at first?
Ask him to please not pull out his gun and start firing? Do you want rules of engagement that require the cops to be shot at first?
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We never waited to protest for Mike Brown or Sterling, protests were immediate. People didn't wait for the cops to be cleared.Crowes wrote:It was just a horrible as the other instances but the system worked in that case the cop went to prison for it but what gets tensions running high are the all times when that doesn't happen or it doesnt seem like it's gonna happen.shel311 wrote:Pretty sure this is also correct.Crowes wrote:I think that cop went to jail also.
But I'm not sure where we're going with that.
So I'll have to disagree there
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how was he gonna get the gun? This interests me how, on the ground with 2 humans, assumed over 200 pounds, ontop of him, and tazing him, he was gnona get a gun lolshel311 wrote:If the struggle is going for a gun, which is very possible here, then Yea. Which part of that would you disagree with?nick wrote:so struggle = take someones life?
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why do you guys assume hes pulling for his gun with 2 cops ontop of him!?!?!?!? You dont think in that moment he knows hes 100% dead???? Why don't you people think logically for half a second? just think please. 2 cops ontop of a guy they just threw to the ground and tazed. hes probably stunned beyond belief but in that moment, this guy, getting fucked up, is able to in his mind, think logically and grab for his gun?
Maybe getting TAZED was affecting his body? Maybe he was twitching and theyre like "hes going for his gun".
Maybe getting TAZED was affecting his body? Maybe he was twitching and theyre like "hes going for his gun".
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btw im not pro something, anti something, Im pro living cause guess what people.. Heaven and Hell doesn't exist. God doesn't exist. Afterlife don't exist. When you get shot and killed, thats it. Darkness
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So it was impossible to get his hand in his pocket?nick wrote:how was he gonna get the gun? This interests me how, on the ground with 2 humans, assumed over 200 pounds, ontop of him, and tazing him, he was gnona get a gun lolshel311 wrote:If the struggle is going for a gun, which is very possible here, then Yea. Which part of that would you disagree with?nick wrote:so struggle = take someones life?
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Very rational stuff we're dealing with here.

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First off their should be no rules of engagement for police. They are not the military in any way shape or form they should have the training to deescalate just about just about any situation and go the extra mile to prevent any loss of life. But what all to often happening and has been reported in this case also you got to rambo wanna bes that come out super aggressive thinking they are god made over and if you dont bow down to them that gives them the right take violent steps to subdue you. Which then leads to all to often the line between a officer who genuinely is justified in using deadly force to this blurry situation of how they felt "threatened" and the vast majority of time allows the cops to walk.dakshdar wrote:So cops struggling with someone that they have verified is armed, and in the course of the struggle believe he's going for the weapon are supposed to...?
Ask him to please not pull out his gun and start firing? Do you want rules of engagement that require the cops to be shot at first?

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you think its possible? it very well might be but have you had 2 humans ontop of you and reached? try it one day, tell me how likely it is + being tasered Superman.shel311 wrote:So it was impossible to get his hand in his pocket?nick wrote:how was he gonna get the gun? This interests me how, on the ground with 2 humans, assumed over 200 pounds, ontop of him, and tazing him, he was gnona get a gun lolshel311 wrote:If the struggle is going for a gun, which is very possible here, then Yea. Which part of that would you disagree with?nick wrote:so struggle = take someones life?
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Very rational stuff we're dealing with here.
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But your argument is that logically the cop started yelling about him having a gun and telling him to not go for the gun just to completely lie so they can murder the guy. Think about that logically for a second...nick wrote:You dont think in that moment he knows hes 100% dead???? Why don't you people think logically for half a second? just think please. 2 cops ontop of a guy they just threw to the ground and tazed. hes probably stunned beyond belief but in that moment, this guy, getting fucked up, is able to in his mind, think logically and grab for his gun?
1. He has a gun.nick wrote:why do you guys assume hes pulling for his gun with 2 cops ontop of him!?!?!?!?
2. The cop yells, "he's got a gun", and something else along the lines of, "don't go for the gun"
But you think it's crazy to think that MAYBE he was pulling for his gun?
You're right, maybe. And maybe he was going for his gun.nick wrote:Maybe getting TAZED was affecting his body? Maybe he was twitching and theyre like "hes going for his gun".
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For a 300lb dude who just took 2 shots with a taser and didn't go down to be able to have his right hand outpower a cop of a much smaller stature's left hand?nick wrote:you think its possible?
Yes, yes I do think it was possible.
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The tipping point that I would have thought would have been the Tamir Rice case of the kid on that playground and cops roll up and less then 10 seconds later the kid is dead. Cops got off in that case to I do believe.shel311 wrote:We never waited to protest for Mike Brown or Sterling, protests were immediate. People didn't wait for the cops to be cleared.Crowes wrote:It was just a horrible as the other instances but the system worked in that case the cop went to prison for it but what gets tensions running high are the all times when that doesn't happen or it doesnt seem like it's gonna happen.shel311 wrote:Pretty sure this is also correct.Crowes wrote:I think that cop went to jail also.
But I'm not sure where we're going with that.
So I'll have to disagree there

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there's a second video btw.

