i'd be more outraged (whatever word you want to use) if he did change his mind and was afraid to say it cause of what he had previously said.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:27 am
by shel311
Oh, he's definitely getting picked apart over it, but that wasn't my intent. Maybe he did his research, talked to his family members with military experience and changed his stance, which is totally ok.
But nonetheless, it's still a hell of a 180 to make that quickly.
the 'winning' goes back to subjective vs objective thinking and ego.
love and truth are the answer. we'll get there. might have to kill half the population for a leader to step up, but we'll get there eventually.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:02 pm
by ajalves
I don't get all the outrage about kneeling during the anthem. I am way late to commenting about it, I understand. I just simply couldn't care less.
I think its dumb......but its "peaceful" in nature.
Why the hell is the Anthem played before all sporting events anyhow?
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:05 pm
by Wasted Memory
ajalves wrote:I don't get all the outrage about kneeling during the anthem. I am way late to commenting about it, I understand. I just simply couldn't care less.
I think its dumb......but its "peaceful" in nature.
Why the hell is the Anthem played before all sporting events anyhow?
Wow, that would actually be an interesting turn wouldn't it? NFL decides it's bad publicity so they just ban doing the anthem before all games.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:05 pm
by DRiccio21
because we all want to tell everyone how smart we are and how they don't 'get it'.
thats the issue.
the 'winning'.
its all dumb, we're all idiots... embrace it. just live and let live and be a robot
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:06 pm
by ajalves
ok
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:09 pm
by GeorgesGoons
In all actuality the players really don't have a leg to stand on. If the owner says stand or be fined or fired then that's what they have to do. Nothing to do with freedom of speech or anything like that. It's a private Enterprise. It's no different if your boss said no cussing at work and you cuss like a sailor, you could be suspended or fired. And it's your legal right to say whatever you want, but your firing/suspension isn't covered by the 1st amendment to keep that firing from happening.
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:13 pm
by ajalves
GeorgesGoons wrote:In all actuality the players really don't have a leg to stand on. If the owner says stand or be fined or fired then that's what they have to do. Nothing to do with freedom of speech or anything like that. It's a private Enterprise. It's no different if your boss said no cussing at work and you cuss like a sailor, you could be suspended or fired. And it's your legal right to say whatever you want, but your firing/suspension isn't covered by the 1st amendment to keep that firing from happening.
not really the angle I was going for but ok.
why is what they are doing so frowned upon I guess is my point. Why do people care
Re: NFL Thread
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:21 pm
by GeorgesGoons
And we as paying customer for a product we have the right to say what we want in regards of the product. If they don't change and they lose their customer that's on them. If the customer doesn't like it and continues to pay for the product it's on the person