DRWebs wrote:The Astros and Phillies are in agreement on a trade that will send right-hander Vincent Velasquez, lefty Brett Oberholtzer and another prospect to Philadelphia in exchange for young closer Ken Giles
Reliever for two young starting pitchers and one more prospect. I personally am a huge fan of Velasquez so obviously happy with the deal. Plus the fact closers can be very volatile assets
I'm kind of confused seeing them so apt to trade Miller... Is it just a value will never be higher kind of thing?Seeitsaveit13 wrote:DRWebs wrote:The Astros and Phillies are in agreement on a trade that will send right-hander Vincent Velasquez, lefty Brett Oberholtzer and another prospect to Philadelphia in exchange for young closer Ken Giles
Reliever for two young starting pitchers and one more prospect. I personally am a huge fan of Velasquez so obviously happy with the deal. Plus the fact closers can be very volatile assets
Kinda kills the yanks deal for Velazquez with Andrew Miller. Damn
DRWebs wrote:I'm kind of confused seeing them so apt to trade Miller... Is it just a value will never be higher kind of thing?Seeitsaveit13 wrote:DRWebs wrote:The Astros and Phillies are in agreement on a trade that will send right-hander Vincent Velasquez, lefty Brett Oberholtzer and another prospect to Philadelphia in exchange for young closer Ken Giles
Reliever for two young starting pitchers and one more prospect. I personally am a huge fan of Velasquez so obviously happy with the deal. Plus the fact closers can be very volatile assets
Kinda kills the yanks deal for Velazquez with Andrew Miller. Damn
He's still only 26 and the games evolving and placing more importance on defense where he is a class of his ownCnasty wrote:$184mil for Hayward?!?!
My goodness.
Well he reportedly passed on a 200M deal and he plays 150+ games a year versus pitching 30Cnasty wrote:That's starting pitcher type money is all I am saying. Seems like a lot but in this day and age of baseball finance it's probably just an average contract.
Thoroughly confused by your comparison. Goldschmidt signed a team friendly deal and by all accounts is playing at a level much higher than his salary will be. Only one of these players hit free agency. You compared a outfielder capable of handling all three positions to a first baseman who will only ever be that and possibly DHdakshdar wrote:Heyward is now making Goldschmidt money.
2015 WAR numbers
Heyward - 1.96 defensive, 3.89 offensive, 6.54 seasonal
Goldschmidt - 0.9 defensive, 6.81 offensive, 8.79 seasonal
And look at Andrelton Simmons offensive numbers. I'm not saying he's better than Goldschmidt or a lot of other players, I'm just saying he got exactly what was expected in the open marketReignOnU wrote:162 game averages:
19 hr, 68 rbi, .268 avg. .784 ops
) Simmons huh? Guys get paid based on their futures unfortunately, just look at Smardizja, and while good comps none of those players you listed were free agents at 26. Chris Davis had 7/150 in hand, I'm just not seeing why people disagree with market value here. Sure he's not quite a 23M player but look at his competition this yearDefensive metrics are, of course, imperfect, but it’s still notable that since debuting in 2010, Heywardleads all Major Leaguers, at any position, with 119 Defensive Runs Saved. He’s also the runaway leader in cumulative Ultimate Zone Rating in that time (+94.4), and his prorated UZR/150 of +18.4 trails only Juan Lagares and Andrelton Simmons among qualified fielders. Those rankings hold weight even when shortening the sample size to the past three years, as each metric agrees that Heyward is the best defensive player in the game aside from his former Atlanta teammate, Simmons.
Just an empty statement, based upon what?nick wrote:cept Mark Appel is a class A bum
