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Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:11 am
by ReignOnU
Part 2, came out yesterday... CNN finally picked up the story last night. Scott Foval was fired from his position overnight after the 1st video I posted and Bob Creamer stepped down yesterday.

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Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:15 am
by shel311
Can we get a synopsis?

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:23 am
by ReignOnU
If you aren't looking around right now, you're missing a lot... here's a quick summary of some current stuff...

- Julian Assange's internet was cut off by the Ecuadorean Embassy... theorists note that John Kerry was in London just shortly before it happened and could have used pressure from the FARC situation. Ecuador stated that they did it because they didn't want Assange altering the democratic election in the US.
- Meanwhile, around 2000 emails per day continue to be released from the Podesta leak. Cutting off Assange doesn't stop Wikileaks obviously.
- The first O'Keefe video came out around Monday.
- Only Hannity picked up the video, even though it had some incredible stuff in it. CNN/MSNBC and other suppressed it. Reddit removed upvotes from every single thread that it was attached to. In spite of having over 1.3m views in roughly 12 hours, YouTube suppressed it from the trending list.
- Overnight, Scott Foval was fired.
- The 2nd video released. This time Fox picked it up pretty quickly. Reddit/YouTube continued to suppress them both during the morning/afternoon. By mid-day, CNN and Anderson Cooper picked it up. Once they did, YouTube made some kind of change and it immediately hit #1 trending. Throughout the day and last night, the Reddit voting suppression also stopped. (there were a few threads about bots and Reddit intentionally doing this that drew heat.)

Between the Wikileaks data over the last few months, the new Podesta emails, the O'Keefe videos and the news coverage... anyone with an ounce of common sense can piece together how corrupt this is. I've been fairly quiet about most of this, but it's getting so over the top at this point. Numerous people in the main stream media directly working with the DNC and feeding people a very specific narrative, while suppressing information. All tied to the same political group that is literally laughing behind the backs of the people that support them with no intention of upholding their words (read some of those Podesta emails, cringeworthy).

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:23 am
by ReignOnU
shel311 wrote:Can we get a synopsis?

In all seriousness, you're doing yourself a personal injustice by not watching both of them. I could, but you should watch them.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:32 am
by shel311
I need a couple really good back to back sims from my OOTP team so I can gain some confidence before I can really take time to focus on this secondary stuff here.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:51 am
by Weasel
Those videos are pretty damning. Its shit I think I already knew went on (maybe not to this degree?), but its uncomfortable to watch

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:53 am
by Cnasty
House of Cards type shit going on!!!

What will happen?

Not a damn thing.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:00 am
by ReignOnU
Here's another fun one that has went down mostly uncovered over the last few weeks...

A handful of high level DNC related members are seemingly attempting to frame Assange for pedophilia. But when the claim first came out from the source, a bunch of common Wikileaks readers tied the accuser, through 2 companies, to these people. DailyKos ran with the claim last night. It should be interesting to see where this goes because it looks like Wikileaks is going to shut it down really fast and it could turn bad for a few people involved.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:04 am
by ReignOnU
Cnasty wrote:House of Cards type shit going on!!!

What will happen?

Not a damn thing.

I've kind of accepted that Hillary will be the next president. It's mostly because people don't have the common sense to look for the answers and instead they make a very uninformed decision.

I'm ultimately curious about why Clinton wants to be president though. Is it just for the continued funding of the Clinton Foundation? The whole DNC has basically laughed at their supporters and some of their own ideas in these emails. It's clear that she has very little intention of doing a lot of what she's said and even the party is internally mixed up on what the right answers are. Podesta was directly telling her what her positions where. Is it just 4 more years of stagnation? I actually think she'll end up being impeached. I don't think the likes of O'Keefe and Assange are going to back off.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:12 am
by Cnasty
Yea I have already accepted that as well.

Are there any up and comers that actually would make a president in the political ranks that we aren't aware of?

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:15 am
by shel311
Amazing that Trump's locker room talk can dominate headlines and have everyone, including Republicans turning their back on him.

Then this type of stuff...crickets.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:33 am
by wdoupis
It's sad but after watching these I didn't feel shock or anything. Basically nodding my head thinking yup, I knew it. I also would bet my life something 100% identical is happening and has been happening for a long time on the other side as well. Our politics is just such a dirty, profitable business.

Lastly, for this guy to the the agitator, fixer, and whatever else how is he so stupid to run his mouth about every little detail. I mean geez, he could not be more anxious to divulge every single detail.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:50 am
by DRiccio21
wdoupis wrote: Lastly, for this guy to the the agitator, fixer, and whatever else how is he so stupid to run his mouth about every little detail. I mean geez, he could not be more anxious to divulge every single detail.
ego is a hell of a drug. turns talented people into puppets.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:56 am
by Seeitsaveit13
shel311 wrote:Amazing that Trump's locker room talk can dominate headlines and have everyone, including Republicans turning their back on him.

Then this type of stuff...crickets.
Media.

They control what you see, unless you care to look on your own. (not saying you, shel, just saying "you")

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:58 am
by uf83198
ReignOnU wrote: I've kind of accepted that Hillary will be the next president. It's mostly because people don't have the common sense to look for the answers and instead they make a very uninformed decision.
I completely disagree. In an election where the public is overwhelmingly negative about both of their options, the outcome appears to be which candidate proves to be the least unpopular choice. Trump is continuing to drive up his own negative ratings.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:01 pm
by shel311
uf83198 wrote:Trump is continuing to drive up his own negative ratings.
He's certainly not helping his cause but the reason he's driving up negative ratings but we found much, much worse stuff about Clinton and it doesn't do the same is because:
ReignOnU wrote: It's mostly because people don't have the common sense to look for the answers and instead they make a very uninformed decision.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:23 pm
by LetsGoPeay
shel311 wrote:
uf83198 wrote:Trump is continuing to drive up his own negative ratings.
He's certainly not helping his cause but the reason he's driving up negative ratings but we found much, much worse stuff about Clinton and it doesn't do the same is because:
ReignOnU wrote: It's mostly because people don't have the common sense to look for the answers and instead they make a very uninformed decision.
Or maybe it's because the vast majority of Americans have become so cynical and jaded about politics that something like this is not only not surprising but pretty much expected. They hear about this and just think "yeah, sounds about right". But then they watch the debates or at least get the highlights of them off their friends on Facebook and see Trump looking like the unpolished politician that he is and making some statements that range from "odd" to "WTF" and they think there's no way they can vote for that guy.
Basically we're at the point of the election process where Hillary's political experience is paying off. She and her people know that Trump is his own worst enemy and also that they can manipulate him very easily in the debates. It really doesn't take much. Just ask him a question and he's bound to say something they can use.

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:45 pm
by ReignOnU
Is that the same Facebook where the COO is a personal friend of Hillary? :-)

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:47 pm
by Cnasty
Why doesn't the US of good ol A get in the streets and demand an overthrow of the political parties and government as we see in other nations across Europe?

Because we fat and happy!!!!

Re: 2016 Presidential Election

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:48 pm
by nick
Hilary is still 1000000% better than Trump tho. The higher ups are fucking you.. water's wet.

#Trudeau ..