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Condit wins the first round with an awkward running in shovel punch that caught Lawler off ballance. But Condit was way more active in the round.

I'm still watching the fight and updating as I go.

This is why they need to do something with the judging in MMA. Lawler got the knockdown in the 2nd, but he did absolutely nothing else in that round. Condit dominated that round except for the 1 punch. And the 1 punch looked like he got Condit off ballanced before landing the punch to repay the off ballanced knock down in round 1. But obviously Lawler is going to win that round due to the knock down. So 1-1 so far.

Round 3 definitely went to Condit. He was more aggressive and landed more strikes. At the :30 mark they showed the stat to prove it, Lawler landed 8/18 strikes while Condit landed 19/71. Condit 2-1

Way too easy of a round for Condit. They showed another stat at the beginning of that round, total strikes thrown 260 to 50. And then later that round they said that Condit has landed more than Lawler has thrown. Condit 3-1

Condit dominated round 5 until there was 1:30 left then Lawler went into depseration mode and landed 8 or so bombs. Condit 3-2

Something needs to happen to this scoring system, Condit dominated this fight from the beginning to end, minus 15 or so punches in 2 for Lawler.
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GeorgesGoons wrote:Condit wins the first round with an awkward running in shovel punch that caught Lawler off ballance. But Condit was way more active in the round.

I'm still watching the fight and updating as I go.

This is why they need to do something with the judging in MMA. Lawler got the knockdown in the 2nd, but he did absolutely nothing else in that round. Condit dominated that round except for the 1 punch. And the 1 punch looked like he got Condit off ballanced before landing the punch to repay the off ballanced knock down in round 1. But obviously Lawler is going to win that round due to the knock down. So 1-1 so far.

Round 3 definitely went to Condit. He was more aggressive and landed more strikes. At the :30 mark they showed the stat to prove it, Lawler landed 8/18 strikes while Condit landed 19/71. Condit 2-1

Way too easy of a round for Condit. They showed another stat at the beginning of that round, total strikes thrown 260 to 50. And then later that round they said that Condit has landed more than Lawler has thrown. Condit 3-1

Condit dominated round 5 until there was 1:30 left then Lawler went into depseration mode and landed 8 or so bombs. Condit 3-2

Something needs to happen to this scoring system, Condit dominated this fight from the beginning to end, minus 15 or so punches in 2 for Lawler.

Many of the punches that Condit threw were meaningless and did little to no damage. Lawler controlled the center of the octagon more often and landed more significant strikes. Lawler was more active by far, but many of those punches were just him throwing punches.
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GeorgesGoons wrote:Condit wins the first round with an awkward running in shovel punch that caught Lawler off ballance. But Condit was way more active in the round.

I'm still watching the fight and updating as I go.

This is why they need to do something with the judging in MMA. Lawler got the knockdown in the 2nd, but he did absolutely nothing else in that round. Condit dominated that round except for the 1 punch. And the 1 punch looked like he got Condit off ballanced before landing the punch to repay the off ballanced knock down in round 1. But obviously Lawler is going to win that round due to the knock down. So 1-1 so far.

Round 3 definitely went to Condit. He was more aggressive and landed more strikes. At the :30 mark they showed the stat to prove it, Lawler landed 8/18 strikes while Condit landed 19/71. Condit 2-1

Way too easy of a round for Condit. They showed another stat at the beginning of that round, total strikes thrown 260 to 50. And then later that round they said that Condit has landed more than Lawler has thrown. Condit 3-1

Condit dominated round 5 until there was 1:30 left then Lawler went into depseration mode and landed 8 or so bombs. Condit 3-2

Something needs to happen to this scoring system, Condit dominated this fight from the beginning to end, minus 15 or so punches in 2 for Lawler.

Many of the punches that Condit threw were meaningless and did little to no damage. Lawler controlled the center of the octagon more often and landed more significant strikes. Lawler was more active by far, but many of those punches were just him throwing punches.
When you get out struck 5 to 1 you lost the fight. The "knock down" in 5he second round was about as meaningful as the knock down Condit scored in the first. The only time Lawler truly got a hold of Condit was the 5th round, a round in which Condit was dominating until that punch (s) landed. Condit was robbed IMO
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Condit got fucking cold cocked in the second. He threw almost 5 times more strikes. He didn't land anywhere close to that. For a large majority of them he was waaaay out of range.
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Supposedly UFC197 will feature Holm vs Tate and RDS vs McGregor. Not sure of the rest of the card but that will be awesome to watch. I think Tate has a better shot at beating Holm than does Rousey at this point. McGregor and RDS will be fun and is good for the UFC more than either fighter. If McGregor can win he will be the first belt holder of two divisions at the same time in the UF. If RDS wins he will only keep his LW belt, don't think he can drop down to 145 and fight.
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Mick, not Paulie.
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autiger730 wrote:Mick, not Paulie.
Damn, I blew the joke!!!
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Cain out of the HW title fight on Sunday due to injuries
Stipe Miocic to fight Verdum
Verdum says he has injuries as well and drops out on Monday, but he said he'd fight Cain if he was still fighting :roll:

UFC 196 is without a main card.

Jon Jones said he would fight Stipe if it was for the belt, not an interim belt.

That would be an interesting fight. I'm a big fan of Stipe (who I thought beat JDS) and of Jones. Can Jones handle the extra weight of his opponent? I hope they announce it today
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I think Jones can handle it. He's been on a serious training regimen lately that is all about adding strength. Stipe isn't a massive heavyweight. What he can do is wrestle like crazy, so that's where Jones would have his biggest challenge. With that said, if they could possibly figure out how to make it happen, I could see Jones finishing Miocic. The only way I see Miocic with a win is by taking Jones down and using his strength/skill to hold him there and out point him. I think Jones is too agile to let that happen and will use his range to hold Stipe at bay.
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RDA is out of 196 vs McGregor due to a broken foot. McGregor's camp has already stated the he plans on fighting at 196 so the UFC is looking for an opponent. It creates a few interesting options:

Jose Aldo: Could this be his shot to get his rematch? I'd expect him to have to do it @ 155, because I don't think Conor would risk dropping to 145 to defend that title on just a week's notice.

Nate Diaz: Recently lost to RDA, but has had a few verbal exchanges with McGregor and it would definitely sell PPV buys. Nate could make 155 on short notice, but is he "clean?"

Donald Cerrone: He just destroyed Alex Oliviera on Sunday, but that was @ 170. Cerrone and McGregor have had quite a few very funny trash talking sessions during the last year and I'm sure Cerrone would be all about that money. But he looked 'soft' at on Sunday and I'm not sure he can get to 155 for the matchup.

Khabib Nurmagomedov: I've had huge expectations for him, but injuries have thrashed him over the last 2 years. His last fight was in April '14. He's scheduled to return this April against Tony Ferguson in what most believe is a title eliminator fight. Khabib's last match... he ragdolled RDA for 3 rounds and it wasn't even close to competitive. It's a really outside shot, but I could see it happening with the winner of Khabib and Conor facing RDA next.
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seems dumb to take the fight if you're the fill in unless you know you'd never get that opportunity otherwise.
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DRiccio21 wrote:seems dumb to take the fight if you're the fill in unless you know you'd never get that opportunity otherwise.
The money Connor's opponent would make is crazy. He is bringing in crazy money and PPV buys right now.

I think it would be hard for Cerrone to cut the 15 pounds in 11 days. Even if he is able to it would take a toll on his body. I would love to see Nate Diaz fight Connor. Especially the same Nate Diaz that just destroyed Michael Johnson.

Did they say how long RDA is out for? The injuries are killing the UFC lately.
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For Connor's side of things, assuming he's not fighting a patsy, how hard is it to adjust when you've been training the entire time for RDA?
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DRiccio21 wrote:seems dumb to take the fight if you're the fill in unless you know you'd never get that opportunity otherwise.

That might actually be the case with Aldo. He has really pissed off Dana and Joe Silva.

Same could be said for Cerrone and Diaz as well, because I don't think either one of them is nearly in line for a title shot. That means a big money match with the biggest draw in the UFC is probably worth the risk.

Out of the guys I listed, Khabib is the only one that would be doing anything with a risk.
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DRWebs wrote:For Connor's side of things, assuming he's not fighting a patsy, how hard is it to adjust when you've been training the entire time for RDA?

I suppose that depends on a few factors:
A.) Do you believe him when he says that he rarely gameplans for his opponent's strategy?
B.) Who the fighter is vs RDA's style. Khabib would be a major problem. Nate Diaz probably wouldn't matter 1 bit.
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Bleacher Report is also saying Pettis is interested as well.

If I was Connor I would wait and game plan accordingly. He can say all he wants that he doesn't, I just don't believe him.

Aldo would be fun to watch, but he pulls out (of fights) more than a porn star.
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GeorgesGoons wrote:Bleacher Report is also saying Pettis is interested as well.

If I was Connor I would wait and game plan accordingly. He can say all he wants that he doesn't, I just don't believe him.

Aldo would be fun to watch, but he pulls out (of fights) more than a porn star.
This. He's the top dog and doesn't need the money, might as well best prepare yourself to retain the crown (unless like Reign said he might not specifically game plan for anyone)
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Jose Aldo, Frankie Edgar and Khabib are all out as options so far.

I'd put my money on Cerrone killing himself to make weight. :-)
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