Boston

[shel311]

Interested to see how this ends. Will it be majority rules? Two-thirds vote? Who knows! We'll make that decision later!!!

Every time!!!

[Uuaww]

I for one am ready for the Boston Massacre.

[shel311]

See you guys next season for the Boston vote!!!

[Cnasty]

See you guys next season for the Boston vote!!!

13-10 isn’t convincing enough in my eyes...but I’m not the boss

[wdoupis]

Interested to see how this ends. Will it be majority rules? Two-thirds vote? Who knows! We'll make that decision later!!!

I thought I posted this in one of the other polls. I am good with majority on small issues like injury levels and comp picks. This is a larger one that requires 60%. The 2/3 thing was something I believe was said for the reatart vote last time.

60% works for the Senate and it can work for us.

[The_Niddler]

To each their own opinion but I do not really see how addressing one team who is causing the “issue” is more shitty than restarting and losing all of the history of what could possibly be the longest running and successful league OOTP has.

My opinion is to leave it alone. I could not have said it better than Hank did. The NFL is not going to disband the Patriots because they win a lot.

[GeorgesGoons]

Corey can you allow for changing of votes?

[Cnasty]

Corey can you allow for changing of votes?

Done

[wdoupis]

I understand if someone wants to vote no but comparing them to the Pats or any pro team ever minus Russell's Celtics is very inaccurate. What Corey does is equivalent to an NFL team going 16-0 every year, maybe 15-1. Pats have won 2 SB in the last 12 years.

At the end of the day Corey wants to do this and there is no denying it is healthy for the league. I agree with much of what you guys say but at the end of the day one of our best and most active owners wants this and it would increase activity. It is that simple.

[The_Niddler]

I understand if someone wants to vote no but comparing them to the Pats or any pro team ever minus Russell's Celtics is very inaccurate. What Corey does is equivalent to an NFL team going 16-0 every year, maybe 15-1. Pats have won 2 SB in the last 12 years.

At the end of the day Corey wants to do this and there is no denying it is healthy for the league. I agree with much of what you guys say but at the end of the day one of our best and most active owners wants this and it would increase activity. It is that simple.

I don't see how it would increase activity?
I am in the same division as him and I vote no.
This gives me something to aim for. I have to put together a team to compete with him, that is on me.

[wdoupis]

We are going to close this vote mid morning as we are currently at 25 votes. If you think you may know who has not voted reach out if you can and we will see what direction we are taking.

[wdoupis]

This poll is closing in 3 hours at 10 CST so we can move forward either way. If you know one of the 5 who have not voted try and reach out.

[BlackRain]

To each their own opinion but I do not really see how addressing one team who is causing the “issue” is more shitty than restarting and losing all of the history of what could possibly be the longest running and successful league OOTP has.

My opinion is to leave it alone. I could not have said it better than Hank did. The NFL is not going to disband the Patriots because they win a lot.

NFL or any other league would never disband a dynasty, never has it been questioned, because one day it will die. When this passes, we are setting up parameters for future dynasties. What happens if he does this again? Or if another dynasty comes along, would we revisit this issue again, a lot of issues it will create if done. And I have been a fan of my Patriots since my first game in 1978, old Schaefer Stadium (Foxboro), then Sullivan Stadium...shitty stadium and terrible franchise. I remember when the fans wore bags over their heads, and it was sad. Then Robert Kraft came along, and Bill Belichick along with Tom Brady...the rest is history. Why bring this up? It will not last, eventhough I have enjoyed it, the Patriots dynasty will not continue after the trade of Garoppolo. I am going to laugh even if we take away players from Corey's team, he will build it up and win more Championships, and what will we do once it happens again...

[ReignOnU]

Just a random noob outsider opinion on some things...

- To those that say "stop trading with him!" It's simple in concept, but each owner has to make a decision on an offer based on the value that it brings to their team. I'm guessing that in most of these cases, the team believed they were getting good value or a piece that they need at that moment. Once you setup the cycle of running a juggernaut, the effect just snowballs. It eventually gets to a point where no one on your squad is untouchable and you can trade any current star aware for a future star that projects 3-4 years down the road, plus something else. When I played, I had an Excel spreadsheet (shocking, I know) that had a 10 year plan on it. It projected who I thought would be starting at which position (including projected position changes based on development/regression), for the full 10 years. In many cases, I was making moves with current starters to fill a gap that was 4-5 seasons down the road.

- I've seen this idea of splitting off the team on a few occasions. Generally, I think it's silly. With that said, his team is probably at a point that he can continue to win 100 plus games every season, if he so chooses. Once a team reaches a certain point where finances are irrelevant and there is significant talent in the pipeline, there isn't a logical solution to it. I think this is a huge flaw in the sim. There are 2 reasons behind it... #1 is the human element. If you have 30 real life users, you likely have 10 REALLY bad users that make terrible business decisions, of which the better players will benefit. In real MLB, there aren't 10 idiot organizations to feast off of. #2 is player development. If you've got an 80 projected stud, short of an absolute disaster, he's going to hit. So you can pencil that prospect in for a nice long run with your team.

- Should you actually do something about Boston? IMO, I'd reluctantly say yes. If Corey is open to it, I think it's much better for the league. But if you're going to do it, you need to do it in a way that helps to break the cycle, it can't be a half measure. If all you do is open up the ML roster and pick off of it, then all he has to do is advance his short-term plan. He'll be a .500 team for a season, he'll win 90 next year, then he'll stomp you again. If you do the draft, it needs to be focused on players <25.

- For those that complain about it not being sim or that it 'ruins' the game, stop being drama queens. It's amazing that the league has went on as long as it has and sometimes you have to do things that are in the best interest of continuity. If you strip 18+ minor leaguers out this organization and redistribute them, it has very little impact on your individual team. 1 team, by his own choosing, takes a hit, everyone else gets a small bump in long-term growth and it helps to lower 1 massive hurdle that exists for everyone's ultimate goal to win a title.

- I haven't read Corey's take on it, but I imagine he's probably bored and not as motivated as he once was. I said it for a long, long time... when you're the commish and you reach a point where you really understand the game, it gets very easy. You start to know everyone's starting lineup, even their minors because of processing trades. You know everyone's financial situation and injury issues. You can easily pinpoint weaknesses, etc. and prey on those.

[ReignOnU]

To each their own opinion but I do not really see how addressing one team who is causing the “issue” is more shitty than restarting and losing all of the history of what could possibly be the longest running and successful league OOTP has.

My opinion is to leave it alone. I could not have said it better than Hank did. The NFL is not going to disband the Patriots because they win a lot.

NFL or any other league would never disband a dynasty, never has it been questioned, because one day it will die. When this passes, we are setting up parameters for future dynasties. What happens if he does this again? Or if another dynasty comes along, would we revisit this issue again, a lot of issues it will create if done. And I have been a fan of my Patriots since my first game in 1978, old Schaefer Stadium (Foxboro), then Sullivan Stadium...shitty stadium and terrible franchise. I remember when the fans wore bags over their heads, and it was sad. Then Robert Kraft came along, and Bill Belichick along with Tom Brady...the rest is history. Why bring this up? It will not last, eventhough I have enjoyed it, the Patriots dynasty will not continue after the trade of Garoppolo. I am going to laugh even if we take away players from Corey's team, he will build it up and win more Championships, and what will we do once it happens again...

Check out my last post... there are distinct differences between real life and this sim. Boston will be Boston as long as he chooses to. It will not die unless he decides to intentionally sabotage it or he just goes full ghost ship. Neither of these are solutions that the league (or Corey) wants.

[wdoupis]

Reign described everything perfectly and he has not been around for 10 seasons lol. It is in no doubt for the best interest of the league. The only thing you got wrong is the 100 wins a year. I believe he has won 124 games or more like 7-8 years in a row and he will easily do it for the next 7 or 8 with exporting 5 times a season.

[wdoupis]

That being said this poll is CLOSED and I will type up a block momentarily on how the draft will proceed.

[ReignOnU]

That's about on par with how frequently I was exporting during my last 4-5 seasons.

[The_Niddler]

I will say, I value Reign's opinion on this game more than just about anyone, as he taught me everything I know.

I was ready to not pick a Boston player and say how I was not trying to be an attention whore, I just didn't believe in it.
I was like Randall, so what happens when the next dynasty comes along, but I also know Reign was in the wash, rinse, repeat mode for many seasons and explained it to me before.

I also think about what Reign said about how being where he is, it is probably not nearly as fun for Corey right now. He really doesn't have to do much with his team, export a few times a year and there is 120+ wins and most likely, at least a world series showing.

[Cnasty]

Reign- hammer—->nail——> head