Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:43 pm
Solid solution imo. Good job Corey. Also, screw that Reign guy for giving Houston a bailout 33 years ago.
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Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:44 pm
so i was barely reading. whats the solution?
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:10 pm
Here is his solution, but I am not sure I agree.Cnasty wrote: Recommendation:Since I cannot neutralize each and every owner, during the rollover process I will need to manually remove the amounts given or taken away by our owners to get our true cash on hand from the season.
Example: Montreal ended 2045 -$186mil, gave up -$87mil in revenue sharing but his owner gave him...$246million in cash giving him a starting balance of $-28million
There are other examples of teams getting $65million, teams owners taking away millions, and most not receiving or giving anything.
This will be put into affect this upcoming offseason as guys have currently made deals that have affected their finances.
Let me first say, in the real world owners do this all this all the time.
What is the harm/benefit of this being in effect?
I know the quick answer, Montreal received $200+ Mil from his owner, but what impact does this really have?
Is this how Corey's team got out of -$100 Mil a few seasons ago?
Why did no one bitch then?
Are there other financial areas where adjustments need to be made if you take this money away? Does it have an impact elsewhere?
Just not sure it is as simple as removing what the owner gave or took away.
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:12 pm
i like how 200m is comparable to 100m.. cmon ppl, Corey being -100 was a big deal and someone is double that. At some point, thinking logically has to come into play no?
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:18 pm
Again, the randomness of the game is what it is. Any GM the Yankees had didn't control what the Steinbrenners did, they worked with what was given to them. Mess with it too much and the problems may escalate, rather than fix themselves if we aren't careful.
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:42 pm
If we go this route I need 110% guarantee from every single owner than there will be no bitching, complaining, or other comments made when teams dig themselves deeper and deeper into debt.cougnix wrote:Again, the randomness of the game is what it is. Any GM the Yankees had didn't control what the Steinbrenners did, they worked with what was given to them. Mess with it too much and the problems may escalate, rather than fix themselves if we aren't careful.
Also no one complaining that I am stuck with a shitty owner that wont give me money yet shitty team A gets hundreds of millions of dollars just because randomly he has a different owner.
I think we know the answer to those 2 scenarios.
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:20 pm
I will complain 
Take away the money the owner adds:
1. If I understand, this is new to '17, so we lived just fine without it before
2. The current way allows teams to get $300m in debt and get out of it at the snap of a finger. Doing away with the money from the owner makes it even more imperative to control your finances within your budgets
Take away the money the owner adds:
1. If I understand, this is new to '17, so we lived just fine without it before
2. The current way allows teams to get $300m in debt and get out of it at the snap of a finger. Doing away with the money from the owner makes it even more imperative to control your finances within your budgets
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:40 pm
Man, if someone just read the boards from this offseason they would think our league was a disaster. I love you guys
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:45 pm
<3wdoupis wrote:Man, if someone just read the boards from this offseason they would think our league was a disaster. I love you guys
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:48 pm
No complaint from me while I have been in the shitter of debt. I am slowly turning it around into positive money. Only thing I complained about was the injuries killed me four seasons ago...that problem was fixed with firing my trainer! However, I am fine with whatever we change....Cnasty wrote:If we go this route I need 110% guarantee from every single owner than there will be no bitching, complaining, or other comments made when teams dig themselves deeper and deeper into debt.cougnix wrote:Again, the randomness of the game is what it is. Any GM the Yankees had didn't control what the Steinbrenners did, they worked with what was given to them. Mess with it too much and the problems may escalate, rather than fix themselves if we aren't careful.
Also no one complaining that I am stuck with a shitty owner that wont give me money yet shitty team A gets hundreds of millions of dollars just because randomly he has a different owner.
I think we know the answer to those 2 scenarios.
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:11 pm
I do like the owner goals. Losing the effect of those kind of sucks, but there doesn't appear to be much of a way around that
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:12 pm
Could we set all owners financial charity or whatever it's called to 5? That way if you earn some cash through goals it's not a ton but you've earned it via success and meeting goals? And if you lose some for missing goals or losing you don't lose a ton??
Re: Owners
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:22 pm
I mentioned this but Rob and my owner are similar from what I gather, he got $246mil, I got $553k for better financial performance.Seeitsaveit13 wrote:Could we set all owners financial charity or whatever it's called to 5? That way if you earn some cash through goals it's not a ton but you've earned it via success and meeting goals? And if you lose some for missing goals or losing you don't lose a ton??
I doubt that would help but I'm sure it could be tested.
Re: Owners
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:57 am
Get rid of owners
Or Rob and everything clears itself up
Or Rob and everything clears itself up
Re: Owners
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:21 am
Why is the answer get rid A or get rid of B. I don't care that Robs owner bailed him out, WHO FUCKING cares! Did his attempt to buy a championship work? No? Is he completely in the clear? Not from what I gather. Let it ride and see where it goes? We will be on to 19 by the time it gets totally figured out and it will change again.
Re: Owners
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:35 am
If you don't care about 1 team getting a quarter of a million dollars while others who managed finance much better getting nothing, then why in the world would you care about everyone getting nothing?
That doesn't make any sense.
That doesn't make any sense.
Re: Owners
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:24 am
Wat? - quote nickshel311 wrote:If you don't care about 1 team getting a quarter of a million dollars while others who managed finance much better getting nothing, then why in the world would you care about everyone getting nothing?
That doesn't make any sense.
Re: Owners
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:13 am
nah nah fuck u get your own quote
Re: Owners
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:34 am
Sorrynick wrote:nah nah fuck u get your own quote
What the fuck are you talking about?
I don't care if another teams owner bails him out. I don't care if an owner takes money.
I guess the answer most are looking for is everyone gets all the same things so there is no real differences and everyone gets shit handed to them. I'm cool with that
Re: Owners
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:47 am
These 2 things are quite literally 2 exact opposite thoughts in this situation.cougnix wrote:I guess the answer most are looking for is everyone gets all the same things so there is no real differences and everyone gets shit handed to them
