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Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:37 pm
by shel311
Uuaww wrote:I get annoyed when SEC teams claim their schedule is so much stronger because they have to play in the SEC and get passes for scheduling 3 cupcakes. like Alabama did (Kent State, FCS team, North Texas). I am not doubting that the SEC doesn't have great teams. But to say Auburn or Florida are any good because their losses are to only SEC teams is a joke.
Florida beat Furham, Florida Atlantic and UAB... that means jack shit
Auburn beat Utah State, Florida Atlantic and Samford... lost to Clemson.
You know what the best non-conference win for a team not named LSU, Alabama or Arkansas?
Tenn over Cincinnati
The SEC is complete shit at the bottom.
And yet it's still the best conference in the nation.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:38 pm
by Cnasty
The sec is relatively weaker than usual this year but still the top conference.
I do hear what you are saying but we are arguing lsu and bama from that conference. 2 of the 3 best teams in the country IMO.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:39 pm
by Uuaww
shel311 wrote:
The SEC is complete shit at the bottom.
And yet it's still the best conference in the nation.
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I have no question that LSU, Alabama, Arkansas are 3 of the best teams in the nation. They have own nearly every game and have a non-con marquee game to hang onto also.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:42 pm
by GeorgesGoons
I'm surprised Kinnie didn't drop that wide open pass. Nice call by Tim Beck.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:42 pm
by trendon
Uuaww wrote:I get annoyed when SEC teams claim their schedule is so much stronger because they have to play in the SEC and get passes for scheduling 3 cupcakes.
I do, too. Over the years, I have seen arguments involving SEC teams where fans of whatever SEC team wants to point to a game versus Mississippi or Tennessee as strong points ... but nobody else can. Or they'll go, "Arizona State/Purdue/Big East sucks!" when those teams are on the same line, if not better than the average SEC team.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:43 pm
by shel311
Uuaww wrote:shel311 wrote:
The SEC is complete shit at the bottom.
And yet it's still the best conference in the nation.
I have no question that LSU, Alabama, Arkansas are 3 of the best teams in the nation. They have own nearly every game and have a non-con marquee game to hang onto also.[/quote]
And the conference, as a whole, is better than any other conference and has been for some time.
Just admit it, you'll feel better.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:48 pm
by Uuaww
trendon wrote:Uuaww wrote:I get annoyed when SEC teams claim their schedule is so much stronger because they have to play in the SEC and get passes for scheduling 3 cupcakes.
I do, too. Over the years, I have seen arguments involving SEC teams where fans of whatever SEC team wants to point to a game versus Mississippi or Tennessee as strong points ... but nobody else can. Or they'll go, "Arizona State/Purdue/Big East sucks!" when those teams are on the same line, if not better than the average SEC team.
yup, and next year it is 10x worse. EVERY SEC team plays 3 cupcakes without fail. LSU's toughest non-con game is Washington.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:51 pm
by Uuaww
shel311 wrote:Uuaww wrote:shel311 wrote:
The SEC is complete shit at the bottom.
And yet it's still the best conference in the nation.
I have no question that LSU, Alabama, Arkansas are 3 of the best teams in the nation. They have own nearly every game and have a non-con marquee game to hang onto also.
And the conference, as a whole, is better than any other conference and has been for some time.
Just admit it, you'll feel better.
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nope, you're top 3 are, the rest aren't. the SEC is a product of it's scheduling. The middle of the pack has been shit for some time.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:53 pm
by sixpackdan101
Come on, Oregon LSU was the first game of the year. Oregon could be a completely different team at this point.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:56 pm
by shel311
Uuaww wrote:nope
Wait, you're being serious?
Go ahead, and give me the conferences better than the SEC in 2010, 2009, and 2008.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:56 pm
by shel311
sixpackdan101 wrote:Come on, Oregon LSU was the first game of the year. Oregon could be a completely different team at this point.
And they could also get beat by twice as much if they play again.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:58 pm
by trendon
shel311 wrote:Uuaww wrote:nope
Wait, you're being serious?
Go ahead, and give me the conferences better than the SEC in 2010, 2009, and 2008.
You could make an argument that the Pac-10 and Big-12 were better or on par with the SEC last year. In fact, I'll say the Pac-12 was better. In fact, our buddy Massey agrees.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:00 pm
by trendon
I am rooting for Arkansas, Virginia Tech, Clemson, even Oklahoma. I do not want to see a game with TWO of Louisiana State, Oregon, and Alabama. That's just from an entertainment standpoint. It is amusing how two of the best teams in the country (Louisiana State and Alabama) have such eye-raising play at QB
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:01 pm
by trendon
Solid work, Indiana. Peay, they suck.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:04 pm
by shel311
trendon wrote: It is amusing how two of the best teams in the country (Louisiana State and Alabama) have such eye-raising play at QB
It's ridiculous.
Hell, going back to last season, LSU 20-2, which is astounding considering how bad the QB play was last season. This season, Lee has actually been extremely good, except for 2 straight passes at Bama lol. he still has 16:3 TD:INT ratio, or maybe even 17:3.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:23 pm
by LetsGoPeay
trendon wrote:Solid work, Indiana. Peay, they suck.
Yes, also water is wet.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:31 pm
by BFiVL
trendon wrote:Cnasty wrote:Biffy has at least put his bias out there.
Well, he is a fan. I admit, I had to go check because I wasn't sure. I knew Oregon played four ranked teams and, if you look at their schedules, they are indeed identical.
Trendon, can you tell me where you go for SOS? Curious to see the numbers. Here are a few I found
Bama 13 Org 45
http://www.gberatings.com/sos/
Bama 2 Org 3 ( Have no clue how they figure this one out)
http://www.teamrankings.com/college-foo ... le-by-team
Bama 20 Org 26
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm
Bama 22 Org 61
http://www.rogerspoll.com/ncaafb_2011_sos_wk6.html
I have scoured a few websites and I know you are the master of info and data finding but from what I found, I havent found one site with org ranked higher than bama and I have seen a wider gap favoring Bama than them being considered identical.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:32 pm
by OracleHCR
shel311 wrote:sixpackdan101 wrote:Come on, Oregon LSU was the first game of the year. Oregon could be a completely different team at this point.
And they could also get beat by twice as much if they play again.
I've seen this posted so many times and it is such a ridiculous statement. People who say or post it assumes that Oregon has gotten better as the season has progressed but LSU hasn't. LSU curb stomped them the first game of the season and might end up doing it again in the last game.
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:38 pm
by jsence2
Re: Week 12 College Football Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:49 pm
by shel311
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 7shJtutA#!
Crap, if someone can embed it properly, it's Corso dropping the F bomb lol.
