Online Dynasty 300

[jsence2]

the only game we're waiting on is Matt...I don't think he's going to play. You're on a bye and already "ready to advance"...just and FYI.

...I'm sorry to hear about your grandmother...

I was going to advance earlier, but Nebraska's owner had to play, and was getting on right then to do so, so I waited.

I will advance within the hour.

And thanks, I appreciate it.

[UCWeiser]

Are we advancing soon

[jsence2]

I will advance us today. I've been busy with family stuff due to my grandmother, so I apologize.

[jsence2]

We have advanced.

Also, starting next season, we will be using NDL roster rules for the dynasty. This is due to abuse of the AI with speedy players. There is no reason a 6th string 68-rated HB should have over 2100 yds and 34 touchdowns on just 186 carries. That is in no way realistic, much less having a 68-rated player starting at a 6-star program. There also should not be a 43-rated QB with 51/50 passing numbers taking the majority of the snaps at a 6-star program. It also takes a large part of the fun out of the online dynasties (competing for awards, etc) when the AI is being grossly abused. I want to implement the rule NOW, but out of fairness I will hold off until next season. We also will have rules about changing players in the offseason (no putting HBs at TE, no CBs moving to QB, etc) to avoid AI abuse.

[fsupenguin]

We have advanced.

Also, starting next season, we will be using NDL roster rules for the dynasty. This is due to abuse of the AI with speedy players. There is no reason a 6th string 68-rated HB should have over 2100 yds and 34 touchdowns on just 186 carries. That is in no way realistic, much less having a 68-rated player starting at a 6-star program. There also should not be a 43-rated QB with 51/50 passing numbers taking the majority of the snaps at a 6-star program. It also takes a large part of the fun out of the online dynasties (competing for awards, etc) when the AI is being grossly abused. I want to implement the rule NOW, but out of fairness I will hold off until next season. We also will have rules about changing players in the offseason (no putting HBs at TE, no CBs moving to QB, etc) to avoid AI abuse.

I understand the first part of this, but why restrictions on position changes? If I move my 96 speed CB to QB next season he will wind up with a rating in the 40s, he would never see the field at all.

[jsence2]

We have advanced.

Also, starting next season, we will be using NDL roster rules for the dynasty. This is due to abuse of the AI with speedy players. There is no reason a 6th string 68-rated HB should have over 2100 yds and 34 touchdowns on just 186 carries. That is in no way realistic, much less having a 68-rated player starting at a 6-star program. There also should not be a 43-rated QB with 51/50 passing numbers taking the majority of the snaps at a 6-star program. It also takes a large part of the fun out of the online dynasties (competing for awards, etc) when the AI is being grossly abused. I want to implement the rule NOW, but out of fairness I will hold off until next season. We also will have rules about changing players in the offseason (no putting HBs at TE, no CBs moving to QB, etc) to avoid AI abuse.

I understand the first part of this, but why restrictions on position changes? If I move my 96 speed CB to QB next season he will wind up with a rating in the 40s, he would never see the field at all.

Because unfortunately I have discovered that is how the 43-rated QB came to be--he's a converted CB who is running speed option and taking most of the snaps at a 6-star program. There won't be many restrictions, those are basically the only two (QB and TE, simply because you see guys with tons of speed and hands but no blocking ability at all being rated highly at TE)

[fsupenguin]

I see what you mean for the most part, I do think it should be perhaps left for your discretion to review a case by case situation perhaps. In my 1st dynasty were I have FSU I entered this past season with only 2 QBs because of one leaving early and failing to get one to sign so I took a the player on my roster with the best throwing accuracy and made him my 3rd string emergency QB. He happened to be a 95 speed WR, he never saw the field during the season, but he came close as I lost my starter to season ending injury in week 7. My backup managed not get hurt so I was ok, but my point is perhaps you should reserve the right to review and position changes like this and not just ban them. Just my thoughs.

[jsence2]

I see what you mean for the most part, I do think it should be perhaps left for your discretion to review a case by case situation perhaps. In my 1st dynasty were I have FSU I entered this past season with only 2 QBs because of one leaving early and failing to get one to sign so I took a the player on my roster with the best throwing accuracy and made him my 3rd string emergency QB. He happened to be a 95 speed WR, he never saw the field during the season, but he came close as I lost my starter to season ending injury in week 7. My backup managed not get hurt so I was ok, but my point is perhaps you should reserve the right to review and position changes like this and not just ban them. Just my thoughs.

Well obviously in that case I would take that into consideration. But he'd be an emergency player, not a primary player.

[pounddarock]

Also, starting next season, we will be using NDL roster rules for the dynasty. This is due to abuse of the AI with speedy players. There is no reason a 6th string 68-rated HB should have over 2100 yds and 34 touchdowns on just 186 carries. That is in no way realistic, much less having a 68-rated player starting at a 6-star program. There also should not be a 43-rated QB with 51/50 passing numbers taking the majority of the snaps at a 6-star program. It also takes a large part of the fun out of the online dynasties (competing for awards, etc) when the AI is being grossly abused. I want to implement the rule NOW, but out of fairness I will hold off until next season. We also will have rules about changing players in the offseason (no putting HBs at TE, no CBs moving to QB, etc) to avoid AI abuse.

The dumb thing about this is
#1 jsence2 and I have already talked about my "speedy" QB, which I told him that at the start of the season, where we have the option of position changes (a beautiful thing about dynasties), I sorted my players and found the highest THP/THA/Speed guy I could. I like to run an option team..NOT SPEED OPTION.

#2 My top QB takes the majority of the snaps. He hands off or throws the ball...once my team gets well ahead of the cpu team (which in this game is usually after the 1st half) I bring in my backup QB to get him primed to hopefully take over in the next couple of years (the whole point of a dynasty).

#3 I can totally understand if this "said" QB were taking snaps out of hail mary and sprinting away the yards, OR EVEN RUNNING SPEED OPTION ALL DAY. When he's in, he's running the flex option and hopefully getting the pitch off to the HB.

#4 In all of the user games I've played, I have NEVER used the speedy QB in a cheesy manner...as a matter of fact I'm not sure he even saw the field. I take exception to the fact that jsence2 is implying that my moves in this manner have been in an effort to "grossly abuse" the AI. It's a style preference.

#5 My "68-rated" HB being used at a 6-star program is 100% legit. Why? because he was an All-American last season. He filled in for my #1 AND #2 HB going down to injury. He has more than performed and therefore, in my eyes as the coach, earned his spot as the starter...screw his overall. He's quick and has the top ratings I look for in a HB, and we all know that speed is the most important rating when it comes to HB's in this game.

#6 This is a FUN dynasty that Matt started up (props to him) and jsence2, who came in mid-season taking USC, was given the reigns even after some original guys offered to take it over...now he's regulating?

Difficulty: Heisman
Quarters: 6 Minutes
Other Rules: There will be no score limit against the CPU. If your up by at least 4 scores super sim is optional. Also, from what I understand it will let me know if someone quits a game and replays it. Unless there is an emergency or nothing lets not be cheesy and quit and restart a game if we are losing. Just take your loss and move on.

I think it's the way you went about this jsence2...you and I have chatted on AIM countless times...and even about this topic. If you wanted to come on here and after "taking over" for Matt and suggest some rules to the other guys..fine. Even if you came on here and stated you would like to set up some guidelines for position changes...fine. But you singled me out...doesn't take a genius to check the rosters and see this. This was a dick move, period. Now I question your motives...is your goal just to get your guy the Heisman? Is it to make sure USC wins the National Title? If you want to mold this OD into an "All I'm concerned about is getting the top recruits, winning the post-season awards, and being the National Champions" then your just like every other non-NDL OD out there. The idea should be to enjoy the dynasty while having the opportunity to play quality coaches along the season.

I appreciate the great guys in this OD, especially the one's I've had the privilege to play..but if this is the way issues or things will be handled, then it's not worth it and I'll just continue to play these quality coaches for ladder games or in other OD's.

Thanks.
~PDR

[cnotes008]

Whoa, take a breath and let those gaming fingers take a break. We don't want carpal tunnel to put you out for the season.


I just wish we could speed it up a bit, but other than that I don't have any problem with pounds situation.

I use CB's, safties and WR's on all 11 spots on D for speed. Is there anything wrong with that. JK

[cnotes008]

Weiser, GET TO WORK!! I see you browsing this and I am dialing the number to your boss right now. I am very disapointed in your work ethic.

[UCWeiser]

Weiser, GET TO WORK!! I see you browsing this and I am dialing the number to your boss right now. I am very disapointed in your work ethic.

Ditto

[jsence2]

PDR,

This isn't about me winning a Heisman, or winning a title. I don't expect to do either. This is about realism and competing with each other for everything. I mean....half the fun is going head-to-head with you, Weiser, etc for top recruits, and awards, etc. But I talked to quite a few people and I did talk to you about it, and I let it go....but I got a complaint about it, and so I had to step in. If everyone else in the league has no problem with recruiting one- or two-star HBs who have A+ speed, and just running outside with them, then I'm fine. This isn't about me; I am the commish and my #1 role is to keep everyone as happy as possible. If people are upset about this, I have to step in.

I tried to talk to you about this before I posted, but I haven't seen you on AIM in days. You know I have nothin against you, you're a great guy and I enjoy playing you. And I had no problem with it when we talked earlier. But when someone else says something....I have to make a decision. I apologize if I came off wrong, and maybe I did go about it the wrong way, but I will leave it up to the league. We'll discuss it come off-season time. I've had one complaint and I'm not really digging it, but....we'll leave it up to the members. That said, I have sent you a PM with the reasons why I am taking this stance.

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As for the speed, that's on me guys. Buried my uncle and my grandmother AND a close family friend in the last 4 weeks, so I've had a lot going on outside of all this. I'm back at home on a regular schedule now, and we're gonna be advancing normally. We will advance tonight, the next week will be due Sunday night.

[cnotes008]

I think we should have a group hug, grab a beer and get back to loving eachother. We are boys, we get drunk and get over it. <---- me drunk.

PS I have not done a ladder game yet and would like to. I will be around all night, but the later it gets, the more i will be in the bag. Hit me up on AIM if anybody wants a win.

[jsence2]

I think we should have a group hug, grab a beer and get back to loving eachother. We are boys, we get drunk and get over it. <---- me drunk.

PS I have not done a ladder game yet and would like to. I will be around all night, but the later it gets, the more i will be in the bag. Hit me up on AIM if anybody wants a win.

No beer for me. Pass the vodka!

[jsence2]

Everyone post opinions.

[Mattdaddy]

Everyone gets tired of playing offline dynasty by theirselves dont they? Exactly. I made these so guys can build up their team and play the way they like. I didn't expect jsence to throw all these rules in after taking over ( I felt like he was the most active and really wanted to keep the league running ).

Jsence, you did join this league around 3 seasons in and didn't complain about the rules then.

I cant do anything about this now guys as I dont run it anymore and I cant tell you the last time I logged into the dynasty as I've been busy and since the update for FIFA came out it has consumed my life.

If you guys leave I dont blame you. Jsence, this is a way to get away from everything done in the NDL and for these guys to relax a bit. If you wanna take that away completely then go for it. There are enough frustrations for everyone during the NDL seasons.

on that note.... its time for me to get some sleep as I have to be up at 5am.

[jsence2]

Again, I was not going to say or do anything until I got complaints from MEMBERS of the dynasty....I dunno what I'm supposed to do here!

I'm not gonna make the decision by myself....it's up to the league. Everyone needs to put in their opinions.

[Mattdaddy]

Everyone who still remains in this dynasty... I'm asking on behalf of myself and jsence..

Do you guys want to see change or do you want to keep things the same? Let us know by the end of this season and depending on the answers will depend on what changes etc etc etc.

[fsupenguin]

Its a sticky situation. Speed is king in this game as when you have playmakers with speed in 96 + range it can be impossible to stop it seems. Personally I do not like the idea of moving a player far down the depth chart into a starting spot at all, reminds me of how people play in the lobbies, but at the same time I am not sure how can fairly restrict it as long as it is a RB playing RB.

The plan I would propose would be this, your starting RB must be within 10 points (overall skill) of your highest rated RB, meaning of course if your highest rated RB is 99, your starter must be at least 89. Also a speedy low rated RB could be list easily at #2 on the depth chart and come in for plenty of plays using the different sub options you have in the playcalling screen so carries could be shared. I hope one these ideas people like, or someone has a better one.