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KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:43 pm

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:37 pm

KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:33 pm The precedent being set is that deals are made with owners and die with owners.

That's how it should be.

KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:33 pm If we want to get on the topic of It's illegal but we all know it goes on, and to just deal with it accordingly....then I'm sure Shel can tell us all how we should feel about it.

Why did you ask for guys to chime in if you're going to act like this and get defensive and call people when they did exactly what you asked?

You didn't want opinions, you wanted confirmation.

Oh sorry Shel, I didn't realize I couldn't defend my position.

You're not, you're taking it personally and getting defensive and taking shots at me. That's not defending your position. You know that.

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:40 pm Still say the best thing is to null and void the trade. Everyone gets back what they gave up in the original post.

My whole point for bringing it up was the piss poor way of it being handled. Quite taken back by hey man here's what we agreed on and a response of sorry man, you got screwed. Props for him keeping it real, but what a joke. I even offered to mitigate the problem, in private, and was once again told I'm screwed.

Should have posted PTBNL in the trade to give yourself some protection. Draft pick trading isn't allowed, so a backdoor deal shouldn't be enforced on a new owner who had no hand in said backdoor dealing.

Billy won't track trade stipulations. It's right in the rules. It's between the owners. If one owner disappears, it's dead at that point since the deal was never official with the league office. That is exactly what this is. 2 1sts weren't part of the official trade, other owner leaves, deal is dead. It's the risk you take when making backdoor deals.

And there's nothing piss-poor about Rob saying no to it. Again, he had zero part in this deal. It's not his prerogative to follow through on unposted stipulations of a deal that was made before him.

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:45 pm

KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:43 pm

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:37 pm

KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:33 pm The precedent being set is that deals are made with owners and die with owners.

That's how it should be.

KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:33 pm If we want to get on the topic of It's illegal but we all know it goes on, and to just deal with it accordingly....then I'm sure Shel can tell us all how we should feel about it.

Why did you ask for guys to chime in if you're going to act like this and get defensive and call people when they did exactly what you asked?

You didn't want opinions, you wanted confirmation.

Oh sorry Shel, I didn't realize I couldn't defend my position.

You're not, you're taking it personally and getting defensive and taking shots at me. That's not defending your position. You know that.

Shel you make everything personal... come on now

KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:50 pm

GeorgesGoons wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:40 pm Still say the best thing is to null and void the trade. Everyone gets back what they gave up in the original post.

My whole point for bringing it up was the piss poor way of it being handled. Quite taken back by hey man here's what we agreed on and a response of sorry man, you got screwed. Props for him keeping it real, but what a joke. I even offered to mitigate the problem, in private, and was once again told I'm screwed.

Saying you got screwed isn't "a joke" as you describe it. Some people don't pussyfoot around.

KShorey wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:53 pm Shel you make everything personal... come on now

Except I didn't, and you did. So there's that.

Yeah I mean honestly - it seems like old-Boston fucked over Anchorage by leaving, but I don't see how new-Boston should have to foot the bill

Honest question...

Do these types of deals happen often? If so, this has to be the first one that hasn't gone the right way

jeheinz72 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:58 pm Yeah I mean honestly - it seems like old-Boston fucked over Anchorage by leaving, but I don't see how new-Boston should have to foot the bill

I have to agree if you make this back room deal. It is what it is.

shel311 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:44 pm
You replied to me, and I replied to you.

That's kinda how things work on message boards.

You're also not the only person I've disagreed with or called out in this thread, so your assertion is also wrong.

None of that is relevant to what I said. Typical of you though. Losing a discussion so you start throwing out useless information.

Shel and Neurotic don't like one another.....check

block one another or something....maybe we can move on

either cancel the deal or the other guy gets screwed and doesn't get his pick.

No reason the new guy should honor a deal he didn't make

ajalves wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:43 pm maybe we can move on

fwiw, exactly what I said should be done from the start...

Why do we have 3 pages on this shit?
The deal is dead, plain and simple.

I would NEVER expect a new owner to agree to a back door deal that is completely against the rules of draft pick trading.

How is this stuff so complicated for some to comprehend or find the need to go back and forth on it?

It is really simple!
Nullify the trade. Put the players back, Billy can fix any financials and call it a day and for fucks sake, move on already!
Corey is gone. If he was still here, I would take a big issue with him on this as this is a clear violation of the rules, but he is not, nothing can be done to him, it is not Rob's fault and I would never expect Rob to agree to it.

Move one!

whos the one we move tho?

nick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:27 pm whos the one we move tho?

What am I missing?

The deal was:
Boston sends:
Dale Farley-SP-R

Anchorage sends:
Neal Herrera-C-MLB-Retains 100%

Move Farley back to Boston
Move Herrera back to Anchorage

Nullify the deal. Act like it never happened. Herrera was already retaining the contract at 100%, so shouldn't be too difficult. Not like moving them back will hurt Anchorage Financially.

Boston takes a hit with fan interest with him moving back to Anchorage, that should be taken care of as well

Well this was all stupid. Draft pick trading is not allowed. If you try to circumvent the rules there is risk and it may blow up on you. I am not reversing the trade and Rob doesn’t owe anyone first round picks. A trade was posted and processed. That’s that

Its kinda nice to now realize why I wasn't able to land Herrera around the deadline. Thats all Imma say. Good day gentlemen.

DParm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:49 am Its kinda nice to now realize why I wasn't able to land Herrera around the deadline. Thats all Imma say. Good day gentlemen.

He's available!

haha imma Slack ya in a few