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Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:45 pm
by Boston_Rob
dusters06 wrote:
Boston_Rob wrote:I am not the only one who benefited from this.

Richmond 60 mil -- (78mil) to (23mil)
Boston 60 mil -- (28mil) to 35mil
Omaha 25 mil -- (43mil) to (3mil)
Tampa 12 mil -- (3mil) to 24 mil


All these teams operated at a loss, which appears to be the common factor. I just amplified this because of my high payroll last season.
My total revenue was greater than total expenses, so don't think that had much to do with my account.

According to the website your end of year balance was ($3,301,670). So...you're wrong


AKA Expenses were greater than revenue for a Net Operating loss of the amount above

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:50 pm
by shel311
-17mil cash means he had profit of 14mil if he finished at -3mil, I'd imagine.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:51 pm
by mreijimiyake
Maybe this has been voted down before but why not just have a hard salary cap?

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:52 pm
by shel311
mreijimiyake wrote:Maybe this has been voted down before but why not just have a hard salary cap?
Trying to keep the realism of MLB

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:58 pm
by dusters06
Boston_Rob wrote:
dusters06 wrote:
Boston_Rob wrote:I am not the only one who benefited from this.

Richmond 60 mil -- (78mil) to (23mil)
Boston 60 mil -- (28mil) to 35mil
Omaha 25 mil -- (43mil) to (3mil)
Tampa 12 mil -- (3mil) to 24 mil


All these teams operated at a loss, which appears to be the common factor. I just amplified this because of my high payroll last season.
My total revenue was greater than total expenses, so don't think that had much to do with my account.

According to the website your end of year balance was ($3,301,670). So...you're wrong


AKA Expenses were greater than revenue for a Net Operating loss of the amount above
Total expenses of 160mil, total revenue of 174mil..... Profit of 14mil

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:00 pm
by Boston_Rob
shel311 wrote:-17mil cash means he had profit of 14mil if he finished at -3mil, I'd imagine.
Let me get all "Accounting"

Assets
Gate Revenue $54,759,460
Season Ticket Revenue $36,165,690
Playoff Revenue $22,103,165
Media Revenue $41,000,000
Merchandising Revenue $20,578,843
Revenue Sharing $-22,653,370
CASH $-17,259,998

Total Assets

134,693,790

Liabilities
Player Expenses ($130,215,187)
Staff Expenses ($9,710,495)

Total Liabilities

(139,925,682)

Net Operating Income/Loss

(5,231,892) Not sure where the website gets the 3 million

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:11 pm
by shel311
I get you're doing assets vs liabilities. But strictly looking at revenues vs expenses, he had a net profit. Cash isn't revenues.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:12 pm
by dusters06
This stuff is over my head. Not sure where revenue sharing or cash comes in. I'll look this evening in game on the accounting page and see what the owner gave or took

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:14 pm
by shel311
dusters06 wrote:This stuff is over my head. Not sure where revenue sharing or cash comes in. I'll look this evening in game on the accounting page and see what the owner gave or took
Rev sharing explained:

viewtopic.php?f=302&t=31761


Cash is either obtained in trades or from your net profit the previous season.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:15 pm
by Boston_Rob
shel311 wrote:I get you're doing assets vs liabilities. But strictly looking at revenues vs expenses, he had a net profit. Cash isn't revenues.
but if you have negative cash at the end of the year....that is going to effect your operating income

I owe you 10 dollars.

I made 5 dollars in revenue.

My expenses were 2 dollars.

I made a 3 dollar profit, but I still owe 10 dollars. So really I end with 7 dollars owed.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:19 pm
by nick
so basically play in negative and ur owner will cover it. good to know. i wont leave the season +30m cause it obviously doesnt reward me at all.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:21 pm
by Boston_Rob
nick wrote:so basically play in negative and ur owner will cover it. good to know. i wont leave the season +30m cause it obviously doesnt reward me at all.
Well it looks like your owner paid for future expenses with your operating profit so maybe not.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:22 pm
by shel311
Boston_Rob wrote:but if you have negative cash at the end of the year....that is going to effect your operating income
Of course.

I'm saying Duster specifically said his revenues were higher than his expenses, which was correct.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:23 pm
by Boston_Rob
shel311 wrote:
Boston_Rob wrote:but if you have negative cash at the end of the year....that is going to effect your operating income
Of course.

I'm saying Duster specifically said his revenues were higher than his expenses, which was correct.
Not according to the website.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:24 pm
by nick
attainable goals. I better get 200m extra!

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i say we say fuck it and let the finances be ru like the wild west. no cap. if 10 yrs down the road someone has a 400mbudget, they earned it by winning. reward winning.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:25 pm
by shel311
nick wrote:i say we say fuck it and let the finances be
But then you'd quit. :)

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:26 pm
by nick
my budget, attendance and record all look the same
Spoiler!
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Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:26 pm
by nick
shel311 wrote:
nick wrote:i say we say fuck it and let the finances be
But then you'd quit. :)
theres a difference in being 200m in the hole and constantly taking on bad contracts while in the hole, and having a 400m budget cause youre cincy and had 100+ wins, 20 straight seasons. I know you like to argue but I would hope even you would understand the diff no?

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:29 pm
by shel311
I do but I took comment as wild wild west, no rules, which would allow for both.

Re: Owners

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:30 pm
by Boston_Rob
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Mine too.