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Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 8:26 pm
by BFiVL
Crowes wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:37 pm
shel311 wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:12 pm
nick wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:05 pm Kamala called Biden a racist like 6 months ago
IT WAS A DEBATE!!!!


If you missed it, the joke is reference here where she essentially admits to lying in a debate and saying Biden was a racist when she didn't believe he was a racist:

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status ... 71456?s=19


Also, in response to Biden's sexual assault accusers, she's on record saying "I believe them" so it'll be interesting to see how she spins that as well. I guess when you're in a debate, it's ok to say someone is a racist and rapist even if you don't believe it, no big deal.
Biden and Harris are both horrible but they are politicans at the end of the day.

Do you remember all the horrible shit Trump said and had said about him when he was a candidate by other republican politicans. Now they all buddy buddy too.

Fuck, Trump accused a fellow GOPers dad of killing JFK. LOL. I love politics.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:45 pm
by shel311
nick wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:41 am sooo about those cognitive issues ? ... ...

Apparently he's had practice with this speech

https://twitter.com/realPowerTie/status ... 43233?s=09

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:09 pm
by GeorgesGoons
shel311 wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:45 pm
nick wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:41 am sooo about those cognitive issues ? ... ...

Apparently he's had practice with this speech

https://twitter.com/realPowerTie/status ... 43233?s=09
You probably won't see that on regular news channel

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:21 pm
by GeorgesGoons
550k absentee/mail in ballots were rejected in the 2020 primaries, up from 320k in the 2018 elections. Main causes for rejection, no signatures and/or mailed too late.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:36 pm
by nick
Acceptable missed votes

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:41 pm
by dakshdar
GeorgesGoons wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:09 pm
shel311 wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:45 pm
nick wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:41 am sooo about those cognitive issues ? ... ...

Apparently he's had practice with this speech

https://twitter.com/realPowerTie/status ... 43233?s=09
You probably won't see that on regular news channel
Oh the horror of someone in politics having the same core values and ideals for years.

Think Trump will tell us all about making showers great again and how he doesn't like sharks in his speech?

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:45 pm
by GeorgesGoons
dakshdar wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:41 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:09 pm
shel311 wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:45 pm
nick wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:41 am sooo about those cognitive issues ? ... ...

Apparently he's had practice with this speech

https://twitter.com/realPowerTie/status ... 43233?s=09
You probably won't see that on regular news channel
Oh the horror of someone in politics having the same core values and ideals for years.

Think Trump will tell us all about making showers great again and how he doesn't like sharks in his speech?
I love how all the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC said it was one hell of a speech though. There is ZERO accountability being held at those news stations when it comes to democrats. Everything they say and do is rainbows shooting out of a unicorn.

Did you also see that he is facing plagiarism claims during his DNC speach? (not the first time this claim has come up with his speech writers)

https://nypost.com/2020/08/22/joe-biden ... ce-speech/

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:49 pm
by shel311
We've really lost sight of how all this should work. We blindly worship politicians we like and blindly hate on ones we don't like. When in reality, we should be holding them accountable and making them beg for and actually earn our vote, not the other way around.

Coming up with excuses for giving the same speech years apart is just odd. We should demand better from these people, not come up with excuses for all of their shortcomings.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:55 pm
by dakshdar
Yes, I read that article:

Biden: For love is more powerful than hate. Hope is more powerful than fear. Light is more powerful than dark.

Layton: Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.

That's pretty weak plagiarism if that's what people want to call it. They're very generic concepts that exist and are expressed by similar political parties everywhere. It's also simple concepts. What's more likely, his speech writer looking up a Canadian letter from a decade ago or his speech writer sitting down and thinking of ways to compare and contrast the Democrat viewpoints of their party vs Trump (in their opinion)?

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:56 pm
by nick
Can a da

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:57 pm
by nick
Double post and can’t delete.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:57 pm
by dakshdar
shel311 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:49 pm We've really lost sight of how all this should work. We blindly worship politicians we like and blindly hate on ones we don't like. When in reality, we should be holding them accountable and making them beg for and actually earn our vote, not the other way around.

Coming up with excuses for giving the same speech years apart is just odd. We should demand better from these people, not come up with excuses for all of their shortcomings.
How is hitting on several core concepts in several minutes out of a 25 minute speech a problem?

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:59 pm
by dakshdar
I bet Trump sticks hard to his same rhetoric he's been giving for four years? Will Republicans complain he's not saying anything new?

This is all a non story.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:10 pm
by shel311
Trump is a buffoon, I fail to see what point you're making there.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:31 pm
by dakshdar
shel311 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:10 pm Trump is a buffoon, I fail to see what point you're making there.
If Trump is a buffoon (I agree) that can barely put two coherent sentences together in a row, what are Republicans hoping to gain by pointing at the fact that Biden gave a great speech (per Fox News) that matches many of his long-standing core values?

It's almost like there's a lack of logic on all sides...

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:33 pm
by shel311
dakshdar wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:31 pm It's almost like there's a lack of logic on all sides...
All sides, yes

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:27 pm
by cougnix
Im pretty sure i saw a post of a speech tgat Trump gave that was the same exact thing in like 10 maybe more locations. They all do it, it isn’t that rare.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:58 pm
by nick
Do you consider the number of US fatalities from coronavirus so far to be... via new CBS/YouGov poll:

Democrats:
10% acceptable
90% unacceptable

Republicans:
57% acceptable
43% unacceptable



..yikes

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:03 pm
by shel311
nick wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:58 pm Do you consider the number of US fatalities from coronavirus so far to be... via new CBS/YouGov poll:

Democrats:
10% acceptable
90% unacceptable

Republicans:
57% acceptable
43% unacceptable



..yikes
shel311 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:49 pm We've really lost sight of how all this should work. We blindly worship politicians we like and blindly hate on ones we don't like. When in reality, we should be holding them accountable and making them beg for and actually earn our vote, not the other way around.

Coming up with excuses for giving the same speech years apart is just odd. We should demand better from these people, not come up with excuses for all of their shortcomings.

Re: Politics and stuff

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:33 pm
by Crowes
shel311 wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:49 pm We've really lost sight of how all this should work. We blindly worship politicians we like and blindly hate on ones we don't like. When in reality, we should be holding them accountable and making them beg for and actually earn our vote, not the other way around.

Coming up with excuses for giving the same speech years apart is just odd. We should demand better from these people, not come up with excuses for all of their shortcomings.
Accountability begins and ends with campaign finance reform.