Politics and stuff

[shel311]

You didnt watch the news for the first few years of trumpers presidency?

Can you elaborate?

[Crowes]

This is what I'd assume she's referring to.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_a ... ion_policy

[shel311]

And kids were placed in those cages under Trump's presidency, is that where she was going with that?

[Crowes]

And kids were placed in those cages under Trump's presidency, is that where she was going with that?

I mean unless someone else was president in 2017?

I can hear the what-aboutisms from Georgie and reign coming already but I'll let them have their glory

[shel311]

I can hear the what-aboutisms from Georgie and reign

What would be the what-aboutism that they'd come back with?

[Crowes]

I can hear the what-aboutisms from Georgie and reign

What would be the what-aboutism that they'd come back with?

I don't know the exact years but at some point during Obama presidency immigration got overwhelmed and had to do somewhat the same thing for a much shorter time. The difference between the two was trumpers made it the policy as soon as the families were caught with little to no plan to reunite the families.

[shel311]

You would agree that the wording she chose in saying kids were "thrown in cages" is said that would to point out inhumane or subpar conditions Trump place the kids into, correct?

[Crowes]

You would agree that the wording she chose in saying kids were "thrown in cages" is said that would to point out inhumane or subpar conditions Trump place the kids into, correct?

There's alot of vids and articles out there about the conditions. It's up to you to determine if you think it's inhuman or subpar conditions for a country such as ours.

[shel311]

Isn't it wrong and inhumane to put kids into cages?

I'm just trying to figure out why anyone would build cages for the intent of putting children into said cages. Help me out there.

[Crowes]

Isn't it wrong and inhumane to put kids into cages?

I'm just trying to figure out why anyone would build cages for the intent of putting children into said cages. Help me out there.

I agree gonna have to wait for the other side to chime in on the subject.

[shel311]

I agree

If you truly agreed, why would you question my initial post and not understand why it's pretty silly for Michelle Obama to say Trump put kids in cages when if she's conceding they're cages then she's also admitting husband had cages built with the intent of putting kids in said cages?

[Crowes]

I agree

If you truly agreed, why would you question my initial post and not understand why it's pretty silly for Michelle Obama to say Trump put kids in cages when if she's conceding they're cages then she's also admitting husband had cages built with the intent of putting kids in said cages?

Yes putting kids in cages is wrong. You aren't an idiot intentions and context matter. You either agree or disagree.

[shel311]

Weird that no one cared or complained when Obama had cages built with the intent to put kids in said cages.

Funny how we just overlook that, no biggie.

[Crowes]

Weird that no one cared or complained when Obama had cages built with the intent to put kids in said cages.

Funny how we just overlook that, no biggie.

I know you live for your false equivalencies but buddy c'mon..... The intentions of Trump separating families that came across together and the Obama unaccompanied minor influx are not the same if you don't see that I dunno what to tell ya......

[shel311]

Again, I never once saw you complain under the Obama administration when he had cages built for children. Why didn't you complain then about that?

[Crowes]

Again, I never once saw you complain under the Obama administration when he had cages built for children. Why didn't you complain then about that?

Being able to instantly pull up from memory what I was saying back in 2014 is a little worrisome bro..

I've clearly explained why I think they aren't the same in the previous post if u disagree oh well.

[shel311]

Dodge, deflect, duck!!!!


Death, taxes, Crowes changing the subject when he boxes himself in.

[Crowes]

Dodge, deflect, duck!!!!


Death, taxes, Crowes changing the subject when he boxes himself in.

I know you live for your false equivalencies but buddy c'mon..... The intentions of Trump separating families that came across together and the Obama unaccompanied minor influx are not the same if you don't see that I dunno what to tell ya....

[GeorgesGoons]

You didnt watch the news for the first few years of trumpers presidency?

Are you talking about all the photos of the poor kids in cages that turned out to be taken during the Obama presidency?

And to think it was her husband's idea to put them in cages in the first place.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... bamas-idea

[GeorgesGoons]

MICHELLE OBAMA, on Americans: “They watch in horror as children are torn from their families and thrown into cages."

THE FACTS: The reference to cages is misleading and a matter that Democrats have persistently distorted.

Trump used facilities that were built during the Obama-Biden administration to house children at the border. They are chain-link enclosures inside border facilities where migrants were temporarily housed, separated by sex and age.

At the height of the controversy over Trump’s zero-tolerance policy at the border, photos that circulated online of children in the enclosures generated great anger. But those photos — by The Associated Press — were taken in 2014 and depicted some of the thousands of unaccompanied children held by President Barack Obama.