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Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:47 pm
by Uuaww
DRiccio21 wrote:why not?
i thought US citizens living abroad were allowed to vote via absentee or something similar to that?
i don't pay state taxes or federal taxes, not a resident of any state... so I can't vote.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:51 pm
by DRiccio21
Uuaww wrote:DRiccio21 wrote:why not?
i thought US citizens living abroad were allowed to vote via absentee or something similar to that?
i don't pay state taxes or federal taxes, not a resident of any state... so I can't vote.
i know people who don't pay US taxes and that aren't residents who live in Israel who vote in the elections.
if you're a US citizen, i was almost positive you were allowed to vote in your last state of residence.... maybe i'm missing something tho, i'm not sure... i just know i have clients who live in israel who still vote in the US.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:53 pm
by DRiccio21
where do you miss eligibility?
Voting Eligibility
Almost all U.S. citizens 18 years or older who reside outside the United States are eligible to vote absentee for candidates for federal offices in U.S. primary and general elections. In addition, some states allow overseas citizens to vote for candidates for state and local offices, as well as for state and local referendums. For information regarding your specific state, visit the Federal Voting Assistance Program’s Voting Assistance Guide or the Overseas Vote Foundation website. The Overseas Vote Foundation is a non-partisan voter advocacy organization.
For voting purposes, your state of legal residence is generally the state wherein you resided immediately before leaving the United States, even if you no longer own or rent property or intend to return there in the future. Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia specifically allow U.S. citizens who have never resided in the United States to register where a parent would be eligible to vote. Direct your questions about eligibility to your local election officials.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:53 pm
by ReignOnU
DRiccio21 wrote:we don't have to agree.
everyone deserves to have a vote. how qualified you are is relative. there are many things i'm not educated on and many things i'm sure you don't have a clue about as well that you're voting on. the vast majority of people don't have a clue about what makes the stock market go up or what makes the economy good/bad despite what we think we know.
for example, i think Obama is horrible (almost scary) for the economy and i think we're about to go on one of the best runs in the market in the past 25 years.
i would have felt that way whether obama or romney won even tho i think Romney is better for the economy and Obama is awful for it.
I'm not sure what others did here, but in my situation, there were a handful of Supreme Court judge votes on my ballot that I hadn't familiarized myself with prior to the election. I didn't vote for anyone. Generally speaking, I won't just plug in a party line vote or randomly vote on something I don't understand.
I don't mind people that have opposing political views (I'm very right wing, while my wife is an LSW). What annoys me are things like blind followers and government leeches. It could have something to do with where I live/commute every day, combined with spending a decade in retail management, but I have a very negative view on the intelligence and ability of most of our society.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:54 pm
by Uuaww
DRiccio21 wrote:where do you miss eligibility?
Voting Eligibility
Almost all U.S. citizens 18 years or older who reside outside the United States are eligible to vote absentee for candidates for federal offices in U.S. primary and general elections. In addition, some states allow overseas citizens to vote for candidates for state and local offices, as well as for state and local referendums. For information regarding your specific state, visit the Federal Voting Assistance Program’s Voting Assistance Guide or the Overseas Vote Foundation website. The Overseas Vote Foundation is a non-partisan voter advocacy organization.
For voting purposes, your state of legal residence is generally the state wherein you resided immediately before leaving the United States, even if you no longer own or rent property or intend to return there in the future. Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia specifically allow U.S. citizens who have never resided in the United States to register where a parent would be eligible to vote. Direct your questions about eligibility to your local election officials.
I don't live overseas though, I live in a US territory.
Can citizens of U.S. Territories vote for President?
No, the Electoral College system does not provide for residents of U.S. Territories, such as Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands and American Samoa to vote for President. Unless citizens in U.S. Territories have official residency (domicile) in a U.S. State or the District of Columbia (and vote by absentee ballot or travel to their State to vote), they cannot vote in the presidential election. Note that prior to the adoption of the 23rd Amendment, DC residents could not vote in the Presidential election.
The political parties may authorize voters in primary elections in Territories to select delegates to represent them at the political party conventions. But that process does not affect the Electoral College system.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:58 pm
by OracleHCR
If you are a US citizen you can vote. Period. You just need to register in your last state of residence.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:05 am
by DRiccio21
Uuaww wrote:Can citizens of U.S. Territories vote for President?
you aren't a citizen of a US territory.
you're a US citizen living in a US territory. i'd be shocked if you couldn't vote unless you gave up your citizenship.
but again, i'm not a poli-sci major
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:14 am
by Uuaww
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:17 am
by swellvermin
Barack blew this dude out lol
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:17 am
by brwnbear
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:23 am
by Uuaww
OracleHCR wrote:If you are a US citizen you can vote. Period. You just need to register in your last state of residence.
Flat out not true, if you are born in a territory and never leave you can't vote bc you were never a resident of any state.
You guys may say I can do it retroactively but a lot of people can't. Also if I did that I wouldnt be able to vote in local elections
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:25 am
by OracleHCR
Are you a US citizen or a citizen of a US territory? Two completely different things. US citizens have the right to vote.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:29 am
by DRiccio21
Uuaww wrote:OracleHCR wrote:If you are a US citizen you can vote. Period. You just need to register in your last state of residence.
Flat out not true, if you are born in a territory and never leave you can't vote bc you were never a resident of any state.
You guys may say I can do it retroactively but a lot of people can't. Also if I did that I wouldnt be able to vote in local elections
dude, what in the world are you talking about? you weren't born in a territory, unless i'm missing something here
you can vote... bottom line. you said you couldn't.
thats all we're saying. i have no idea if that disqualifies you from the us virgin islands 47th district town sheriff election or not.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:36 am
by ChampDizzle
swellvermin wrote:Barack blew this dude out lol
that damn Oregon offense just keeps scoring
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:37 am
by swellvermin
ChampDizzle wrote:swellvermin wrote:Barack blew this dude out lol
that damn Oregon offense just keeps scoring
lol
So does Texas A&M's
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:37 am
by WooPigSooie316
ChampDizzle wrote:swellvermin wrote:Barack blew this dude out lol
that damn Oregon offense just keeps scoring
35 point rule anyone?
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:41 am
by sixpackdan101
swellvermin wrote:ChampDizzle wrote:swellvermin wrote:Barack blew this dude out lol
that damn Oregon offense just keeps scoring
lol
So does Texas A&M's
Jesus someone get this guy to stop talking about Texas A&M
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:46 am
by swellvermin
Not gonna happen.
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:52 am
by jsence2
If you want to know why this nation is going down the shitter, just look on Facebook.
Republicans crying about how the world is coming to an end, Democrats celebrating about how Obama won so suck it Republicans, and nobody talking about how we can now work together to make this nation better.
And I cant' wait to hear the Republican leaders (Mitch McConnell please step up) talk about how they will spend the next four years fighting Obama and making sure he accomplishes nothing.....which means four more years of absolutely nothing getting done.
Btw, how scary is it that Krazy Karl Rove was helping run this country for 8 years??? I knew the man was an absolutely insane idiot, but dear God....this is half comedy and half "THIS GUY was running things behind the scenes for eight years?!?!?!"
Re: Presidential Debate
Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:59 am
by jsence2
Donald Trump has lost his damn mind. His twitter is pure idiotic gold right now.