COVID-19

[GeorgesGoons]

I knew it was a possibility but was holding out hope. 2 of my contracts are suspending washes till this shit blows over.

[GeorgesGoons]

Prince Charles has the COVID

[GeorgesGoons]

Some of Pelosi's "poison pills" she added in her COVID 19 bill:

Post Office bail out of all debt
Requiring early voting
Required same day voter registration
Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
- publication and reporting of airline emissions for individual flights
Retirement plans for community news papers
$15 minimum wage

[dakshdar]

Some of Pelosi's "poison pills" she added in her COVID 19 bill:

Post Office bail out of all debt
Requiring early voting
Required same day voter registration
Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
- publication and reporting of airline emissions for individual flights
Retirement plans for community news papers
$15 minimum wage

May not actually be as deadly as letting Steven Mnuchin divvy up $500 billion to all of his and Trumps closest business owning friends as part of the Republican bill details.

[GeorgesGoons]

Some of Pelosi's "poison pills" she added in her COVID 19 bill:

Post Office bail out of all debt
Requiring early voting
Required same day voter registration
Full offset of airline emissions by 2025
- publication and reporting of airline emissions for individual flights
Retirement plans for community news papers
$15 minimum wage

May not actually be as deadly as letting Steven Mnuchin divvy up $500 billion to all of his and Trumps closest business owning friends as part of the Republican bill details.

She used the term "poison pills" to refer to some crap the Republicans were throwing in the bill. And then she turns around and throws this crap in there. This has nothing to do with COVID-19. That was the point. This is why congress has an approval rating of around 15% for the last 10 years or so. They are all self serving and play politics when they should be worrying about people instead.

[Cnasty]

Yet you only chose the Dem "pills" to call out.

[jeheinz72]

Did those Pelosi shenanigans make it into the one they're passing? So fuckin dumb. The post office needs a total revamp or it'll just re-pile up debt, but unions exist so it'll never happen

[dakshdar]

I didn't understand all the fish tank cleaner comments on Twitter, and then I saw this article:

https://abc7.com/health/man-dies-wife-c ... s/6045150/

[GeorgesGoons]

I didn't understand all the fish tank cleaner comments on Twitter, and then I saw this article:

https://abc7.com/health/man-dies-wife-c ... s/6045150/

I was wondering the same (not on twitter cuz I don't twitter).

Thanks for the clarification

[dakshdar]

I'm not a fan of the idea that the stimulus money in the bills is limited based on income. If businesses are closed, people aren't making money regardless of what they normally make. Limiting the payment to families that make under a certain threshold again ignores that some people need to live and work in areas of the country where the cost of living is very high due to location of specific industries - which of course this doesn't take into account.

The details seemed to indicate phasing out the benefit above $75k for an individual or $150k for a family.

A family making $150k living in Los Angeles is in the same economic situation as a family making $65k living in Kansas City, but one family is on the verge of losing part of the benefit and the other isn't? This is just silly.

https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-livi ... -ks/150000

[shel311]

I just think that if you're making over a certain amount, it's on you for not saving for a time like this. I certainly get the argument that those who do well and make money and pay more taxes are getting shafted, but this isn't meant to just be giving away money for the heck of it. If you make over $200k a year, you should have enough money saved up to survive a couple of months of this whereas someone making $50k may not be able to do the same. Yes of course, plenty of people who don't make tons of money aren't exactly fiscally responsible but there's only so much we can do when picking and choosing who gets it.



All of that is cost of living notwithstanding, I hadn't even thought of that until Dak just raised a great point. Whatever the cutoff amount is, it probably should have some kind of cost of living calculator to it, that would be fair for those living in high cost areas who may make over the limit but are certainly not in the same boat like dak said as someone living in Kansas City who makes that same amount.

[dakshdar]

I just think that if you're making over a certain amount, it's on you for not saving for a time like this. I certainly get the argument that those who do well and make money and pay more taxes are getting shafted, but this isn't meant to just be giving away money for the heck of it. If you make over $200k a year, you should have enough money saved up to survive a couple of months of this whereas someone making $50k may not be able to do the same. Yes of course, plenty of people who don't make tons of money aren't exactly fiscally responsible but there's only so much we can do when picking and choosing who gets it.



All of that is cost of living notwithstanding, I hadn't even thought of that until Dak just raised a great point. Whatever the cutoff amount is, it probably should have some kind of cost of living calculator to it, that would be fair for those living in high cost areas who may make over the limit but are certainly not in the same boat like dak said as someone living in Kansas City who makes that same amount.

That's the point of the cost of living part (which you acknowledged).

Since cost of living says making $200k in LA is like making $86k in KC, both families are capable of saving a similar amount each year based on the variation in the cost of living expenses between the two places.

[nick]

"I just think that if you're making over a certain amount, it's on you for not saving for a time like this. "

if only rent wasnt like $2000+/month in major cities and under $800 in rural areas..

[cougnix]

Where does the assumption that if you make $200K a year that you should have saved enough money and that you should be fine?

What Dak is saying, and I agree. The amount you make doesn't determine if you need assistance when everything is shut down. $200K a year doesn't even allow you to live in Seattle unless you are single.

[dakshdar]

"I just think that if you're making over a certain amount, it's on you for not saving for a time like this. "

if only rent wasnt like $2000+/month in major cities and under $800 in rural areas..

He revised his initial paragraph with the follow-up though.

There is an inherent difficulty with a stimulus plan like this. It should really go only to people that are truly out of work and don't have other income options like saved up sick time or vacation. But there's no way to effectively handle that in an expeditious manner (I would think) so they go based on income, which is fraught with problems of its own.

[Crowes]

Unemployment varies from State to state but it's going up to around 900 a week on average from around 300 a week on average from the articles I've seen so far. That plus the payements is good chuck of lost income for most Americans.

[shel311]

"I just think that if you're making over a certain amount, it's on you for not saving for a time like this. "

if only rent wasnt like $2000+/month in major cities and under $800 in rural areas..

TIL you can only make money living in major cities. You can also live outside the city for much cheaper.


Also, if you're making $200k a year, $2k for rent isn't really much, that's not a reason you can't save money.

[cougnix]

You are still making assumptions.

$200K a year with a family of 3 or less, maybe be able to save money

$200K a year with a family of 5, 2 in college, 5 drivers in the family...Probably not so much

Plus where does this $200K a year person live. How can you blanket statement that situation?

[shel311]

Plus where does this $200K a year person live. How can you blanket statement that situation?

All of that is cost of living notwithstanding, I hadn't even thought of that until Dak just raised a great point. Whatever the cutoff amount is, it probably should have some kind of cost of living calculator to it, that would be fair for those living in high cost areas who may make over the limit but are certainly not in the same boat like dak said as someone living in Kansas City who makes that same amount.

C'mon man!

[cougnix]

Then stop making blanket statements about if a person makes a certain amount, they should be able to save!