NFL Thread

[nick]

just did another mock draft

1. Houston Texans - Khalil Mack - OLB - Buffalo
2. St. Louis Rams (from Washington) - *Jadeveon Clowney - DE - South Carolina
3. Jacksonville Jaguars - *Sammy Watkins - WR - Clemson
4. Cleveland Browns - *Johnny Manziel - QB - Texas A&M
5. Oakland Raiders - *Mike Evans - WR - Texas A&M
6. Atlanta Falcons - *Greg Robinson - OT - Auburn
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - *Blake Bortles - QB - UCF
8. Minnesota Vikings - Aaron Donald - DT - Pittsburgh
9. Buffalo Bills - Jake Matthews - OT - Texas A&M
10. Detroit Lions - Darqueze Dennard - CB - Michigan State
11. Tennessee Titans - *Teddy Bridgewater - QB - Louisville
12. New York Giants - Zack Martin - OT - Notre Dame
13. St. Louis Rams - Taylor Lewan - OT - Michigan
14. Chicago Bears - Kyle Fuller - CB - Virginia Tech
15. Pittsburgh Steelers - *Odell Beckham Jr. - WR - LSU
16. Dallas Cowboys - *Marqise Lee - WR - Southern California
17. Baltimore Ravens - *Hasean Clinton-Dix - FS - Alabama
18. New York Jets - *Eric Ebron - TE - North Carolina
19. Miami Dolphins - JaWuan James - OT - Tennessee
20. Arizona Cardinals - Justin Gilbert - CB - Oklahoma State
21. Green Bay Packers - Anthony Barr - OLB - UCLA
22. Philadelphia Eagles - *Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State
23. Kansas City Chiefs - Derek Carr - QB - Fresno State
24. Cincinnati Bengals - *Bradley Roby - CB - Ohio State
25. San Diego Chargers - Jason Verrett - CB - TCU
26. Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis) - *Ryan Shazier - OLB - Ohio State
27. New Orleans Saints - Jimmie Ward - SS - Northern Illinois
28. Carolina Panthers - *Allen Robinson - WR - Penn State
29. New England Patriots - C.J. Mosley - ILB - Alabama
30. San Francisco 49ers - Louis Nix - DT - Notre Dame
31. Denver Broncos - *Scott Crichton - DE - Oregon State
32. Seattle Seahawks - Dominique Easley - DL - Florida State

[shel311]

27. New Orleans Saints - Jimmie Ward - SS - Northern Illinois

You did this one yourself?

Saints have Kenny Vaccaro who just said a standout rookie year, and just signed that dude from Buffalo I can't remember his name, but he's supposed to be real good, so I can't see them going safety.

[nick]

27. New Orleans Saints - Jimmie Ward - SS - Northern Illinois

You did this one yourself?

Saints have Kenny Vaccaro who just said a standout rookie year, and just signed that dude from Buffalo I can't remember his name, but he's supposed to be real good, so I can't see them going safety.

i use a site i just read rumors off and this is for Saints. I gave Lee away before them

5/5: "It's official. I'm not falling away from Marqise Lee." - Larry Holder, NOLA.com, who has consistently mocked Lee to the Saints at No. 27. Holder has the Saints taking Jeremiah Attaochu and Dri Archer in the second and third rounds.

4/29: The Saints have met with Jimmie Ward twice thus far (Senior Bowl, pre-draft visit). Go here for the entire

also in the new NFL, 2 safeties isnt gonna cut it. teams run more nickel/passing packages with the increase in passing, so i dont see why going for Ward would be a bad thing.

[Whittness10]

If the Browns draft Manziel, and he becomes the starter, I won't watch a game all season. I'll watch NASCAR before I watch that mess.

[shel311]

i use a site i just read rumors off and this is for Saints. I gave Lee away before them

Generally speaking, Lee isn't considered an elite level WR? I thought he was, so there'd be no way to get him in the late 20s, but I don't follow draft stuff at all.

[shel311]

If the Browns draft Manziel, and he becomes the starter, I won't watch a game all season. I'll watch NASCAR before I watch that mess.

Funny, cause it'll be the 1st time I watch a Browns game in years.

[nick]

i use a site i just read rumors off and this is for Saints. I gave Lee away before them

Generally speaking, Lee isn't considered an elite level WR? I thought he was, so there'd be no way to get him in the late 20s, but I don't follow draft stuff at all.

i think he has a boom/bust label. a high percentage of drops. Watkins/Evans/Beckham are all ahead and possibly even Brandin Cooks.

[shel311]

Gotcha.

Am I the only one who thinks Jarvis Landry will be better than Beckham?

[Whittness10]

If the Browns draft Manziel, and he becomes the starter, I won't watch a game all season. I'll watch NASCAR before I watch that mess.

Funny, cause it'll be the 1st time I watch a Browns game in years.

Then I'll watch all the Saints games, and you can have the Browns

[nick]

Gotcha.

Am I the only one who thinks Jarvis Landry will be better than Beckham?

Landry ran a 4.77 so he will def drop cause of it. could be a steal for a team

[shel311]

Gotcha.

Am I the only one who thinks Jarvis Landry will be better than Beckham?

Landry ran a 4.77 so he will def drop cause of it. could be a steal for a team

Yea, Beckham is infinitely more athletic. But man, Landry is just always open and never dropped a pass and made some of the unreal catches consistently that I recall from a WR.

[cougnix]

If the Browns draft Manziel, and he becomes the starter, I won't watch a game all season. I'll watch NASCAR before I watch that mess.

Until they start winning

[LetsGoPeay]

The Colts first round pick was spent on T-Rich 2.9. Nice.

[Seeitsaveit13]

The Colts first round pick was spent on T-Rich 2.9. Nice.

Thanks for that one by the way.

[Cnasty]

Report: More than 10 players failed drug tests at scouting combine


Fox Sports reported that "more than 10" players failed drug tests at the combine, and the biggest names on the list are LSU quarterback Zach Mettenberger and Florida State defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan.

The drug use itself might not be the biggest red flag, depending on what the drug was. Miami offensive tackle Seantrel Henderson, for example, reportedly tested positive for marijuana, the same drug that commissioner Roger Goodell wouldn't rule out letting players use for medical reasons. In 2014, when two states have legalized marijuana, you'd have to be pretty conservative to overreact to someone using it.

That's not really the issue. The issue is decision making. Players are coached up on every aspect of the combine, from how to run the 40 to how to answer every team's goofy questions. And one of the most basic things about the combine is that you're going to take a drug test. The combine is basically the most important job interview of these players' lives. It's an understatement to say it's a poor decision to do anything in the weeks leading up to the combine that would lead to a positive test. If you can't be trusted to handle something that basic, how are you going to deal with the NFL life?

Mettenberger and Jernigan were the biggest names among those in the Fox report. Fox didn't have a complete list, but said LSU defensive tackle Anthony Johnson, Henderson and Florida State linebackers Telvin Smith and Christian Jones also failed drug tests.

Mettenberger's agents told Fox Sports he had a diluted sample, which is considered a failed test by the NFL. His agents told Fox that Mettenberger was drinking extra water at the advice of his doctors after cramping during his rehabilitation for a torn ACL. That should be easy for Mettenberger to prove, but it's something teams will wonder about.

Each team will have to consider how to weigh the failed tests in its evaluation of those players. But it certainly won't help the players that they have to answer questions about why they failed a drug test even though they knew well in advance they'd be tested.

[shel311]

Mett!!!

[Whittness10]

If the Browns draft Manziel, and he becomes the starter, I won't watch a game all season. I'll watch NASCAR before I watch that mess.

Until they start winning

Win? Cleveland?

[DRiccio21]

If the Browns draft Manziel, and he becomes the starter, I won't watch a game all season. I'll watch NASCAR before I watch that mess.

You've watched all these yrs but you're gonna stop now!??!?

[ReignOnU]

Manziel is near the top of my list of guys I want at pick 4, if for no other reason that if he's going to go down, he's going to go down in an epic blaze of glory... and god forbid the kid wins... Cleveland would embrace "Johnny Fuckin' Football" like no other NFL team would. (Lebron level love there)

[Whittness10]

If the Browns draft Manziel, and he becomes the starter, I won't watch a game all season. I'll watch NASCAR before I watch that mess.

You've watched all these yrs but you're gonna stop now!??!?

Good point. I watched when Brandon Weeden was the starter, I guess he can't be any worse than that.