Didn't we all hear this about Vernon Gholston, who was also a talent like Clowney?fsupenguin wrote:cougnix wrote:He benched less than most combine participants. But damn he's fast...shel311 wrote:His college coach questioned his work ethic.nick wrote:and you're basing this on...fsupenguin wrote:To be honest I would be uneasy with taking Clowney, I have serious doubts about if he has it in him to put in the work needed to be the player gms are hoping he will be.
Also comments made in the past, cannot find the article at the moment, that he really didn't like football and it was just a job for him. Reported as being late to meetings frequently as well. It's not just one thing, it's a combination, and I think they add up to a kid who really isn't passionate about playing in the NFL, and I believe that is something you really need to make the sacrifices required of an elite athlete.
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Ya Gholston had 35 reps at the bench. I wonder what that bench press monster is doing now in the NFL getting seperation off OLineman. Has to be top 5 in sacks no?trendon wrote:Didn't we all hear this about Vernon Gholston, who was also a talent like Clowney?fsupenguin wrote:cougnix wrote:He benched less than most combine participants. But damn he's fast...shel311 wrote:His college coach questioned his work ethic.nick wrote: and you're basing this on...
Also comments made in the past, cannot find the article at the moment, that he really didn't like football and it was just a job for him. Reported as being late to meetings frequently as well. It's not just one thing, it's a combination, and I think they add up to a kid who really isn't passionate about playing in the NFL, and I believe that is something you really need to make the sacrifices required of an elite athlete.
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shel311 wrote:His college coach questioned his work ethic.nick wrote:and you're basing this on...fsupenguin wrote:To be honest I would be uneasy with taking Clowney, I have serious doubts about if he has it in him to put in the work needed to be the player gms are hoping he will be.
I think it's overblown, personally. I think he saw what can happen to a guy to derail his NFL dreams (when he saw one of the nastiest injuries in recent memory in person, Lattimore's knee injury) and he decided to play it safe and not lose his spot as a top-5 pick. Not what I or some others would do, but I absolutely understand it.

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cougnix wrote:How can you say bench means nothing? He is a DE! Creating separation from the offensive player is necessity. Oline guys are getting fast too and just speed isn't going to get it done these days.nick wrote:if Clowney wasnt interested he would of skipped the combine and just did a work day. Instead he destroyed the 40. His bench press was down. You know what bench pressing means? absolutely nothing. Who gives a shit what Spurrier thinks/says. Clowney was touted as the #1 pick last yr. He just didnt care. I wouldnt care either if I knew I was a lock for a top pick. I'd coast the final year, make sure I dont get injured ala Lattimore, and get drafted high.
He has one of the most unbelievable wingspans ever for a DE. I think that's going to do more for him getting separation and getting past a OL than his bench press numbers will. As a DL, you don't get to the pass rusher by having arm strength, you do so by having a quick first step and more lower body strength to generate leverage.

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I fucking hate them. I saw the helmet last week and didn't like how big the flag was. Now that I see the rest of the uniform I want to cry. Get rid of the black and bring back the orange, red and white. People always hated on those but they are my favorite Buccaneers uniform. They have sentimental value for me as I remember sitting in the stands those first couple years struggling through the 0-14 and 2-12 records. Tampa Stadium was still packed though and was a sea of orange.Cnasty wrote:I think they officially took over the worst unis in the NFL. Wow are these ugly
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I was happy with the previous uniforms, these new ones are horrible.
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Competition Committee discussing moving XP try back to the 25 yard line (42 yard attempt) but keeping 2 pt try from same current position.
Would seem weird, but not sure I'd be against it. Drops expected conversion rate for kick from 99.6% to ~83%. You'd basically see a missed PAT every game with that kind of rate.
Would seem weird, but not sure I'd be against it. Drops expected conversion rate for kick from 99.6% to ~83%. You'd basically see a missed PAT every game with that kind of rate.
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XP from the 25, 2PT from the 2.5. I'm in favor of this.dakshdar wrote:Competition Committee discussing moving XP try back to the 25 yard line (42 yard attempt) but keeping 2 pt try from same current position.
Would seem weird, but not sure I'd be against it. Drops expected conversion rate for kick from 99.6% to ~83%. You'd basically see a missed PAT every game with that kind of rate.
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You so sure?
All I'm saying is, if that stress ball is producing those results, I'm in!
All I'm saying is, if that stress ball is producing those results, I'm in!
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Not photoshopped from what I have read and seen.One of many confirmed pics.
Must be those Wrangler jeans!
Must be those Wrangler jeans!
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He's unretiring again... coming back to play linebacker opposite Clay Matthews.
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He saw I unretired and came back to the OOTP so he is trying to 1 up me.
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i cant see Reign's picture, but that is exactly how he looked on an interview before the Super Bowl on NFL Network pregame...
thats him
thats him

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He's a walking HGH advertisement.
Probably.
Probably.
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This is actually brilliant timing after the debacle that was the Bucs unveil of their unis."We'll have cutting edge uniforms that will link back to our history; excited about our direction" Scheiner on new unis to debut in 2015 for the Cleveland Browns
I am sure Dan has already sewn a couple letters on the new ones already.

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Cnasty wrote:This is actually brilliant timing after the debacle that was the Bucs unveil of their unis."We'll have cutting edge uniforms that will link back to our history; excited about our direction" Scheiner on new unis to debut in 2015 for the Cleveland Browns
I am sure Dan has already sewn a couple letters on the new ones already.




