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Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:11 pm
by qazhby
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:04 pm
dakshdar wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:10 pm I don't think you need to do both.

If you injure players, then teams have to sign more viable replacements. This spends free money that is sitting around the game economy, which naturally reduces the asking price of players in extension or free agent negotiations.

At least that is how it has been explained in the past.
If more people are spending money, wouldn't that increase the asking price of the FA's and not reduce them? I don't see how an extra $200M being spent would reduce prices, that should increase prices
I think it has more to do with the game engine than actual economics

Like the game engine sees that on average teams have $40 mil to spend each (just throwing a random number) then the AI free agents will ask more because technically a team should spend it. If they have only $20 mil on average to spend the the AI will ask for less because there is less money

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:12 pm
by qazhby
I could be wrong, but thats how i understand it

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:14 pm
by GeorgesGoons
qazhby wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:11 pm
GeorgesGoons wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:04 pm
dakshdar wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:10 pm I don't think you need to do both.

If you injure players, then teams have to sign more viable replacements. This spends free money that is sitting around the game economy, which naturally reduces the asking price of players in extension or free agent negotiations.

At least that is how it has been explained in the past.
If more people are spending money, wouldn't that increase the asking price of the FA's and not reduce them? I don't see how an extra $200M being spent would reduce prices, that should increase prices
I think it has more to do with the game engine than actual economics

Like the game engine sees that on average teams have $40 mil to spend each (just throwing a random number) then the AI free agents will ask more because technically a team should spend it. If they have only $20 mil on average to spend the the AI will ask for less because there is less money
That makes sense.

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:15 pm
by GeorgesGoons
I still think we retire players after 2 years in the FA market.

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:19 pm
by wdoupis
Qazhby is correct in his explanation

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:32 pm
by nick
shel311 wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:55 pm
nick wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:06 pm you guys wanna injure players but not increase the damn budget.
I don't see the correlation
i want 500 mil budgets and people signing 100m/yr type deals since its 2089 or something.

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:55 am
by TheGobOne
File is up. Reports and S+ to follow.

News and Awards
Jose Vidro (BLO) wins NL PotW
Ricky Valentine (HOL) wins AL PotW
Jose Vidro (BLO) hits 3 HRs vs Ann Arbor

Major Injuries
Donnie McKinley (SAN) out 4 months with an elbow nerve issue.....jeez San Antonio has the Prosper curse now.

Signings
None

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am
by qazhby
My lefty specialist Butch Livingston has now pitched 3 innings on the year

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:49 am
by TheGobOne
Yep, I run a 6man pen and I STILL have a guy who's only pitched 10 innings. And I don't even set their roles other than the Closer. Let the AI decide. Pretty dumb stuff.

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:55 am
by wdoupis
How the eff is my team over .500 and how did we just sweep Moose Jaw in a 4 game set

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:21 am
by qazhby
Two way prospect Joe Davis is making his debut next sim.

He's got the starting spot at DH for RHP. Probably will not pitch given how this game uses relievers, but he is set for middle relief and avoid high leverage so who knows.

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:33 am
by GeorgesGoons
He'll probably pitch every game in the most crucial point of the game because OOTP doesn't care if you want to avoid high leverage with him

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:35 am
by GeorgesGoons
What is up with Mike Krieger? He signs a big deal with PO this off season and has pretty much shit the bed for AJ. Even his fielding sucks which is pretty amazing given that he was always rock solid in CF

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:14 am
by DRiccio21
qazhby wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:21 am Two way prospect Joe Davis is making his debut next sim.

He's got the starting spot at DH for RHP. Probably will not pitch given how this game uses relievers, but he is set for middle relief and avoid high leverage so who knows.
if you figure out how to make that work let me know.

when i had Hobbs in everyday line up in CF and also as a reliever he was never used.

i really still want to use Hobbs as a SP but hes so much better as a hitter when i don't.

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:29 am
by qazhby
DRiccio21 wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:14 am
qazhby wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:21 am Two way prospect Joe Davis is making his debut next sim.

He's got the starting spot at DH for RHP. Probably will not pitch given how this game uses relievers, but he is set for middle relief and avoid high leverage so who knows.
if you figure out how to make that work let me know.

when i had Hobbs in everyday line up in CF and also as a reliever he was never used.

i really still want to use Hobbs as a SP but hes so much better as a hitter when i don't.
Yeah I feel like Hobbs is at the point where I wouldn't even try to pitch him now. He's so much better at playing CF. Maybe would pitch him in mop up duty if i needed, but pitchers hardly get tired in this game.

Davis really is only good at hitting RHP and can barely play the field (he'll mainly DH for me) so he should have adequate rest. I wonder if that is why Hobbs didn't do well playing both? CF is a demanding position

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:44 am
by TheGobOne
wdoupis wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2022 5:55 am How the eff is my team over .500 and how did we just sweep Moose Jaw in a 4 game set
I was waiting for this. I almost spit out my water when I saw it. Sad!

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:59 am
by GeorgesGoons
Let's see how far that fan interest drops after the Watkins and Clark trade. Was sitting at 91, I am guessing we hit somewhere around 79

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:01 am
by TheGobOne
File is up. Reports and S+ to follow.

News and Awards
Jimmy Mason (MOO) wins NL PotW
Dave O'Crouley (HOL) wins AL PotW
Juan Burgos (MOO) K's 17 vs New England

Major Injuries
Kenny Thompson (BLT) out 6-7 months with an elbow injury
Kurt Bender (AL) out 3 months with with a torn labrum

Signings
Raul Rivera signs a 5 year extension with Prosper for 5y/137.6M
James Ellison signs with New England for 1y/1.88M


Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:28 am
by GeorgesGoons
Surprisingly, interest only dropped to 84.

Re: 2089 Season Thread - Where's the Beef?

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:46 pm
by nick
+ get above .500
- have to face Prosper

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